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 I am starting fresh on Elysium with my RL buddy who is rolling Hunter and we're mainly interested in world pvp ganking and dungeon grinding. I have read some things about druids being underpowered in endgame raiding and being pigeon holed into going full resto if they choose to raid.  However, I'd like to know more specifically how well a "pvp specced" druid with decent gear does leveling up and can they hold their own in world pvp.  Are they so underpowered that they have a disadvantage in almost every possible pvp encounter?  Druids, please tell me ganking with a feral druid is as fun as i've been imagining. 

Buliwyf Stonehand at Timberline Arms in Military district of Iron Forge to train 1h and 2h maces.   Same room as Bixi Wobblebonk, but Bixi does not train maces.

I actually went here and did not see Buliwyf  lol, so I left to try Darnasus.. then had to come back and look again. 

I'm trying to put together a build that allows me to do both, checking the "A Grizzly Situation" guide, I've seen this one that sounds like what I'm looking for:

"Feral Hybrid DPS/Tank 14/32/5 "The @Wortgewandt variant". Very much the same as the above build, but with the threat increasing talents dropped in order to add additional DPS talents. Less 'easy threat' than the above build, more DPS, more built around off tanking in raids than main tanking. Still able to tank dungeons just fine, but it will require more thought and less autopilot."

I haven't been able to find the actual build, so I've created my own version, but I'd love some feedback from experienced feral players:

https://classicdb.ch/?talent#0zLVhoZxbxsfbdtV

Thanks!

I have only tanked a tiny bit as feral before (one run through Stockades), and I found it pretty easy compared to Warriors. Basically I would just pull with Moonfire/Faerie Fire (it was before I had Faerie Fire (Feral)), shift to Bear form, and use Maul to keep aggro. On multiple mobs I'd use Swipe for AoE threat, and Demo roar for damage mitigation. Always keeping Thorns on myself. This way I rarely lost aggro of any mobs, and if I did early in a fight due to a premature heal, I'd just pick the loose mob up with Growl. I'd also sometimes pop a Rejuvination on myself just for some extra AoE threat. I found it to be a lot of fun and very simple, and in 5mans I actually prefered it to Warrior tanking. Hardly any tab-targeting to keep aggro on multiple mobs.

For gear I'm priorotizing items with Stamina > Strength > Agility > Armor.

I just made this thread as a place to discuss Feral tanking. I feel it should be more commonly used in 5mans, as I have rarely been in dungeons with bear tanks (mostly druids I have played with have been healers or cat dps). I'd greatly appreciate any advice from people with experience :) I want to perform as well as I can, as I hate letting down a dungeon group by causing a whipe!

Some of you may have seen me posting theorycrafting stuff about feral dps on Elysium Druid discord channel. I'm really interested in minmaxing and try to calculate every possible way of improving our dps.

So, I've been working lately on this spreadsheet, that is, a BiS list for feral cats, that works dynamically. The current BiS lists are based on static stat weights (2.4 str, 2.1 agi) and include only the stat weights calculated from autoattack. However, analyzing the cat dps in more detail, we know that most of our dmg comes from Shred and Ferocious Bite and they are much more weighted towards crit, which gives agility more value.

So this sheet takes into account all the 3 main dps sources in raids (Autoattack, Shred, Ferocious Bite). You insert your own stats into the sheet and the sheet calculates the relative value of 1% crit chance to Attack Power (C:AP) with your own stats. However, doing only this, the sheet would calculate every dmg source as equal, which is wrong and would lead into way too much weight on the crit/ap ratio of Ferocious Bite. So, I added a table where you can add the dmg% of each skill in boss fights for up to 10 different bosses. You can check them from either DpsMate or Legacy-Logs after raid. The sheet then gives the relative percentage of value to the Crit:AP ratio of each skill and calculates the final, total value of 1% crit chance/AP based on that. This gives us the correct stat weight to Agility and correct dps value to items with your own current stats.

Hope this isn't too messy to understand. Basically, all you need to do is to download the excel file, insert your own stats + dmg source % of each skill from raid logs and then the sheet calculates the dps values to items.

Best regards,

Shedo <Blood Pressure>

EDIT: The previous spreadsheet is outdated and a lot of improvements and fixes have been done after that. You will find the latest version of the spreadsheet from the link below. There is also a link to my Twitch channel. I stream feral cat raids, theorycrafting and sometimes pvp.

Link to the new spreadsheet:

Feral Cat, Dynamic BiS list

Link to my twitch channel

Shedothedruid - Feral Cat stream

I would like to ask if or how to get this macro to work?

/script UseContainerItem(0, 1);
/cast Shadowmeld

i would like to drink in shadowmeld when possible, but it wont work. I have tried various variations but i only go into shadowmeld:)

Tiny

Here is a screenshot of my character screen, showing my stats.

Could the class experts in here shed some light on why my character is sucking so hard as of late? And if anyone could grace me with some tips on how to suck less, that would be greatly appreciated!

https://tegas.github.io/legacy-sim/#/spell

Here's healing touch:

https://tegas.github.io/legacy-sim/#/healingTouch

The code is all on github. It's not the cleanest code, but it does the job. Feel free to submit issues, pull requests, or complaints. I only work on it during lunch breaks so don't expect a quick response.

https://github.com/Tegas/legacy-sim

I know later iterations of the game specifically stated they don’t stack, is this implied in 1.12?

Cheers,

Slay

I'm Nostalian from <SECURITY> on Elysium-PVP, where I currently raid as a feral DPS. I wanted to share a google doc of Druid macros that I wrote way back in April when I hit 60. At the time, I was super frustrated with how cluttered my bars had become. That frustration inspired me to write a bunch of macros that consolidated many of my abilities and freed up my bars. Have a look, play around with them, and reach out with any feedback/criticism! I appreciate  it all and hope some of you find the macros helpful. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pbKrmcxE9NrGIvKReQeMjTpdQFKadhI7EV65rQGK0tM

Additionally, I have a question about supermacro: I read somewhere that /unbuff is a slow command because of its implementation. I currently have a few /unbuff lines in my cat form macro for mounts - do you think this creates a substantial amount of delay when using the macro to powershift? I definitely don't notice any delay, but next raid I might just place the cat form spell on my bar to powershift with instead and see if I notice a marginally faster powershift time.

I'm using Luna so I made /lunamo macros for my spells, however I noticed that Swiftmend and Nature's Swiftness won't work when I'm moused over a unit frame.  This is really annoying obviously as now I'm required to click and target the person I want to Swiftmend, and move my mouse off the unit frame to cast it.  Same goes for Nature's Swiftness, except I don't have to target anyone, just move my mouse off a frame, cast it, then mouse back over.

How does everyone deal with this?

Index
1. Introduction
2. Stats
3. Talents, Abilitys & Prio List
4. Utilization & Buffs
5. Addons
6. Outcome

1. Introduction

2. Stats

3. Talents, Abilitys & Prio List

4. Utilization & Buffs

5. Addons

6. Outcome:

I hope to see some competion pop up with this in the future. :D

I want to play a druid and I know restoration is my only viable spec at 60 for raiding and such. For leveling though is restoration viable or do I need to go feral than re-roll back to restoration at 60? I am also wondering if feral is able to heal 5 mans in healing gear while leveling to 60.

I've been surfing the interwebz for a while now, but I can't find anything to confirm my question.

I feel a bear as off tank is nice to have around, because of rebirth and innervate, but for the encounters where only tanks are needed that person would go cat. 

From what I can read cat DPS is a waste of a spot, in general, but using some sort of hybrid DPS specc is not mentioned anywhere.

A friend of mine spoke of this a few weeks ago, as a suggestion to what that bear would do when not tanking. Sorry, but I've never played druid myself, so I might be a bit out of shape on the abilities.

DPS: 

1. Starting in cat form, using up the most energy consuming dmg abilities to get the most dmg outcome.

2. Shift to caster form and cast wrath + moonfire, or what ever is suited to fit the time it takes for the energy bar to be fill up. 

3. Jump back into cat form and repeat.

This would of course be very mana consuming, which would mean popping mana pots and runes on CD. If this were to be viable DPS this would mean some sort of hybrid gear similar to the Warlord/Marshal set, right?

Has anyone here tried this out?

At the moment Zandalarian Hero Medallion is overwritten by effect of Tiger's Fury regardless on number of stacks that you have on Zandalarian Hero Medallion buff. 

 Can anyone confirm if that's intended behavior or should those two buffs when used stack?

BR,

Nolamik

Hello, back when I played a druid I wanted to make spammable shapeshifting macros that would let me control my forms the best way possible, and also I didn't want to use any add-ons for macros.

So this is what I came up with, perhaps some will find it useful.

1. Dismount macro - not very useful by itself, but is used for other macros. I placed it into slot №27, see the action bar slot reference:

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/run local i=0 g=GetPlayerBuff while not (g(i) == -1) do if(strfind(GetPlayerBuffTexture(g(i)),"Mount"))then CancelPlayerBuff(g(i)) end i=i+1 end

2. Dismount + switch to caster form - somewhat useful, but still mainly used by other macros. I placed it into slot №37.

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/run UseAction(27)
/run for i=1, GetNumShapeshiftForms() do _, name, active = GetShapeshiftFormInfo(i) if( active ~= nil ) then CastShapeshiftForm(i) break end end

3. Cat form.

It will dismount/cancel any other form and then switch to the cat form, and if you're already there, it will activate "Track Humanoids".

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/script c=CastSpellByName; f=UnitPowerType("Player"); if not (f==3) then UseAction(37); else c"Track Humanoids"; end; if (f==0) then c"Cat Form"; end;

4. Bear form.
Same as above, but for dire bear form. You have to edit it if you only have normal bear form. 

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/script c=CastSpellByName; f=UnitPowerType("Player"); if not (f==1) then UseAction(37); else end; if (f==0) then c"Dire Bear Form"; end;

5. Travel form.

Unlike other macros, it won't cancel any other form, so you have to use it while you're in caster form already.

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/run local i,x=1,0 while UnitBuff("player",i) do if UnitBuff("player",i)=="Interface\\Icons\\Ability_Druid_TravelForm" then x=1 end i=i+1 end if x==0 then CastSpellByName("Travel Form") else end

You can place all those macros whenever you want, just make sure that commands like UseAction() link to a correct macro.

PS: while I'm at it, here's the video of how you can use shred against mobs 1 vs 1 for faster and more efficient levelling:

I am leveling a druid with the intent of primarily PvPing as Balance. Once I hit level 60, I was wondering what gear would be best to target to help me rank up in PvP as a Balance Druid. I realize that the rank 10+ gear is probably the best for PvP, but what gear should I have before that? Please note I play on Elysium which doesn't have ZG patch yet. 

So think of this request as a pre-bis list, but for PvP. 

Thanks

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0zLmbZxMgsckbtVm

If you understand what I'm going for, what is your advice? I'd prefer to be able to get Imp Mark of the Wild but i just don't have the points. 

Once again, with emphasis, this build is only for leveling purposes. Grinding and questing