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i know we do not own the accounts and they are not in duty to host servers for us. but imo there are 2 options

1. law considers vanilla and legion as one and the same game. imo, this would result in false advertisement/fraud, because the game is not remotely the way it was advertised and i bought it. the game is still up, my account still there, but they changed it a lot. its no longer what it was advertised with, what ive paid for.

2. law considers vanilla and legion as 2 different games. this would mean blizzard abandoned vanilla. is this something private projects could benefit from?

 

this kind of game with this specific busines model is quite unique i guess. there are not many mmorpgs with subscription models and periodic expansions (youve got to buy). other games usually remain the same and offer the same gaming experience regardless of what expansion/addon is being released (unless you buy it), so ppl there cant complain. but if the expansions change/remove features in a way wows expansions do or even worse even if you do not purchase it, you might feel like youve been cheated.

maybe the chances to win such a sue are low because blizzard is in no duty, but if nobody ever tries youll never find out. why can they forbid fanprojects to rebuild a game they abandoned but many purchased? and i dont think its as clear as many here make it to be, just because its a big ass company doesnt make them be right.

and for every gamer i hope theres a solution for such situations rather sooner than later because its quite sad the players are forced to play such old games on private servers and additionally those that are hosting them because nobody else does have to fear a sue

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7 hours ago, BASE303 said:

You must be smoking some mad shit to come up with this load of bollocks.

LMFAO, can spot a Brit from miles away, so true.

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you're going to sue these guys for not having available a previous version of their game? under what clause? only the biggest idiot would actually "fund" this "campaign" it is clearly a ploy for u to scam people 

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1)  LOL at $10k being enough to even get a lawyer interested in taking on Blizzard.

2)  A case such as this would set a precedent for the entire video game industry.  You won't be fighting just Blizzard.  You'd be fighting every company that advances the game through patches or expansions without the ability to experience the older content.  That's basically every MMO, MOBA, digital card game, etc as these are games that MUST evolve in order to remain competitive.  You're also likely fighting against any company that has shut down public servers without allowing a private server option, this happens A LOT with older games.

You would need to hire Jackie Chiles to take on this sort of lawsuit.  

 

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As the famous Jeremy Clarkson said. "What could possibly go wrong!!" :)

Or "How hard can it be?"

And we all know what happens after he said those 2 lines!!!

 

hahahahhahaha

 

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Although this is a some what thrilling idea, no amount of money will give you a winning case. It's stated that World of Warcraft® will have expansions to introduce players to new events in Azeroth. It is silly that you started this, I do however wish for a pure vanilla realm in retail to experience everything vanilla again...since that is unlikely to happen, I support Elysium and hope to keep it up for many more years to come. 

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On 21-3-2017 at 8:13 PM, Morathe said:

Lol at the whole idea. Its like you folks sued your favorite artist cause he can't/don't want to play music same way as he did 30 years ago when you originally bought the first recording. Get some brain. Wow changed and all the rights you have is to like it or not. Its not like some public good you are entitled to.

Well, at least we can grab the old recording we paid for and actually listen to it as it was. Live concerts are retail wow, the records (old expansions) are unable to play now (that would be bullshit right?)

But anyhow, sueing blizz won't work.

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On 21/3/2017 at 7:08 PM, Frz said:

https://www.gofundme.com/blizzard-vs-the-community
Message me VIA gofundme to contact me

This is the start of a class action lawsuit against Blizzard Entertainment for the removal of Classic World of Warcraft and The Burning Crusade and will most likley apply to other future versions of the game.

The funds will be 100% used to fund this campaign including law fees and other random fees that may be accumulated over this process.

I cannot guarantee  that we will be sucsessful but I feel we have a strong chance of winning or at least rattling them enough to make a change.

Below I included the key points that would be brought to the table regarding this lawsuit.  Prior to any court date I will personally contact blizzard and attempt to settle with some sort of agreement.  I havent determined an exact value that I will sue them for, but it will be quite a large number, enough to scare them.  3.53 Million copies were sold in the first month.  Just using that value, dividing it by 50% and multiplying it by $50 (retail price) we result in a value of 105 Million Dollars.  As you read my reasoning for the lawsuit you will understand where I pulled these numbers from.

I live in the United States and am fully capable of seeing this lawsuit through.  Below are the points for the lawsuit.

1.        Blizzard sold copies of World of Warcraft to consumers and after two years the game was removed and replaced by World of Warcraft – Wrath of the Lich King (WotLK).  The game “World of Warcraft – The Burning Crusade (TBC)” was removed consumers were unable to play the game they paid for.

2.       Blizzard never preemptively informed consumers that the game they purchased: “World of Warcraft – The Burning Crusade”  would be no longer playable after two years on its own specific servers. In addition these customers paid a $15 per month fee during this time on top of the actual purchase of the game which costs roughly $50 (Classic World of Warcraft) plus $45 (TBC Expansion Pack)

3.       Porting the game from TBC to WotLK creates an entirely different game IE, entirely different economy,  different final bosses (Kil'jaeden VS The Lich King).  Although there are many more examples, these simple facts make the two games completely distinguishable.

4.       Blizzard created a new expansion without consideration for people without the new expansion.  Blizzard took no effort into accommodating the old paying customers and instead bullied paying customers into purchasing a product they didn’t want, but was required to continue to play the game.

5.       Petitions were created to persuade Blizzard to do the right thing and release “Old Content Servers” but Blizzard simply ignored them. Source. It has been determined by the community that what Blizzard has done is illegal.

6.       Monetary greed is the overall reason they forced this expansion on the community.  The majority of people prefer TBC over WotLK and Blizzard wanted to sell another expansion pack without considering the community or the fact that we purchased a game we wanted to play.  TBC was taken from the community forcefully.

7.       Given these points above blizzard basically bullied their customers into buying the future expansions because the previous expansions would be unplayable due to lack of community and lack of partitioning of the community into one central server for players on “The old expansion”.  In short, Blizzard exiled players off the previous expansions making the game they paid for obsolete. 

Petition Source: https://www.change.org/p/mike-morhaime-legacy-server-among-world-of-warcraft-community

Thanks for Reading

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21 minutes ago, Emptora said:

Waste of money / time.

Can you sue Windows for not providing updates to Windows 95?

 

no, but you can stop it from updating and use it the way you bought it.

sometimes its better to not make a comparison rather than making a shitty one

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Just now, Revo said:

no, but you can stop it from updating and use it the way you bought it.

sometimes its better to not make a comparison rather than making a shitty one

Or you can just open your mouth like you do and show how stupid you are, which is what you're doing.

You can install the software and not upgrade it. Have fun playing it that way.

And you only have rights to access the servers when you pay the subscription fee. Its written in the EULA that you don't own the software and Blizzard retains the rights to not operate the servers, and take back THEIR software because YOU don't own it. And if you don't agree to it, you can return it for 30 days for a full refund.

Not happy with that? Go back to 2005 and get a refund, stupid... Or just keep opening your mouth without reading the EULA and look stupid.

I know what the hell I'm taking about, you're clearly the other guy.

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6 hours ago, Revo said:

blizzard => jail!

Yeah lets go get an inanimate, intangible entity and put it in jail.

Maybe after that we can go fix Microsoft for dinner right?

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3 minutes ago, Emptora said:

Right. And now you're the guy without a legitimate response.

your posts had too good points, so i cant come up with a legitimate respone

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On 3/22/2017 at 8:59 AM, Revo said:

maybe the chances to win such a sue are low because blizzard is in no duty, but if nobody ever tries youll never find out. why can they forbid fanprojects to rebuild a game they abandoned but many purchased? and i dont think its as clear as many here make it to be, just because its a big ass company doesnt make them be right.

B/c the fan-projects are knockoffs from the original one and the original one aka big ass company has it intellectual property protected by the law that's why they could forbid. As for the sue, if case like this really came that no developer on the earth would ever dare to patching their release b/c you know, it's illegal xD

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1 hour ago, NVladd said:

The whole "you can't play the old expansions" argument is bullshit, you can still play those expansions as the core game is still there, the world, quests, dungeons and raids are all still there.

no. many quests were removed. environment (world), dungeons, raids and a lot of mechanics changed. can you even form a 40 raids group?

if i could still play every level 1-60 content like it was vanilla, id not be here

 

1 hour ago, NVladd said:

The only thing Blizzard has changed is its difficulty, leveling and balance of the classes. The game is still the same, it just plays a bit differently compared to vanilla.

luled. go back to RETAIL

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nostalrius was like connectix&bleem, but french

ppl in this thread are also french.

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