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So current state of AV be like:
10 mages enters AV, all with MQG trinket equiped, rushing to mid chasing brac rotus. After looting it, /afk leave AV and wait for next one.

Any chance for this to be fixed, but not soon™ it can't be hard it's just one line of code where you change it to affect only spells from spellbook not every god damn thing including fast campfire

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If you think it should not affect all casting times, I would suggest posting a bug report here: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues

In my experience, I did use the Hand of Edward the Odd on retail for quite a while to instantly cap towers and graveyards in AV, so it was possible for "casting" to include looting actions.

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3 hours ago, Hudson said:

If you think it should not affect all casting times, I would suggest posting a bug report here: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues

In my experience, I did use the Hand of Edward the Odd on retail for quite a while to instantly cap towers and graveyards in AV, so it was possible for "casting" to include looting actions.

lmao?

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spell haste affected herbalism all the way up to Wotlk before getting changed.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=50300/herb-gathering#comments

By demon39063 (201 – 1) on 2008/12/20 (Patch 3.0.3)

Interesting fun fact: This is affected by haste.

With 482 haste, my cast time for gathering herbs is 4.23s. The more you know :)

 

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-exploits/185866-gather-herbs-faster.html

skinning and mining also should be affected. (mages get skinning for devilsaur leather gathering kek)

should not affect "looting" chests or anything with a cogwheel action as that's not a spell.

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The funny part is actually that they're nerfing with custom "fixes" gold farming on rogues, hunters and whatnot because "higher than 60-80g/hour", but you have mages chain queuing AV with the trinket getting double or even triple the amount in one hour. You get 1 lotus in 1 hour you're already way past their intended "across the board" gph.

Consistency in decision making is quite questionable here.

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9 minutes ago, Slicy said:

The funny part is actually that they're nerfing "gold farming" on rogues and hunters because "higher than 60-80g/hour", but you have mages chain queuing AV with the trinket getting double or even triple the amount in one hour.

Consistency in decision making is quite questionable here.

Are all of the mages queuing for the brac lotus earning the that many golds per hour?

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1 black lotus is 135g at the AH atm. If as a mage with the trinket you can't get one within 1 hour of AV chain queuing, you should uninstall.

But yeah let's prevent hunters from soloing tribute and rogues from pickpocketting or doing BRD coffers (which was changed in Cataclysm lmao) meanwhile.

For the record :

"We nerfed these instances to reduce the amount of gold that was able to be generated from 100g+ an hour by certain classes, to about 50-75g across the board."

 

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39 minutes ago, Slicy said:

1 black lotus is 135g at the AH atm. If as a mage with the trinket you can't get one within 1 hour of AV chain queuing, you should uninstall.

But yeah let's prevent hunters from soloing tribute and rogues from pickpocketting or doing BRD coffers (which was changed in Cataclysm lmao) meanwhile.

For the record :

"We nerfed these instances to reduce the amount of gold that was able to be generated from 100g+ an hour by certain classes, to about 50-75g across the board."

 

One difference is that soloing tributes or pickpocketing items and vendoring them is actually generating gold for the economy. Selling black lotii isn't creating any gold, but just moving it around between players.

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Talking about "generating gold for the economy", how does that difference even matter when infinite gold has been duped for days long with a very well known exploit left unchecked for way too long ?

"Moving gold around between players" when hundred of thousand have been duped, nice meme.

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12 hours ago, Imbaslap said:

spell haste affected herbalism all the way up to Wotlk before getting changed.

http://www.wowhead.com/spell=50300/herb-gathering#comments

By demon39063 (201 – 1) on 2008/12/20 (Patch 3.0.3)

Interesting fun fact: This is affected by haste.

With 482 haste, my cast time for gathering herbs is 4.23s. The more you know :)

 

http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-exploits/185866-gather-herbs-faster.html

skinning and mining also should be affected. (mages get skinning for devilsaur leather gathering kek)

should not affect "looting" chests or anything with a cogwheel action as that's not a spell.

 

Do you even read?
 

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

 

No haste items in vanilla only raw "percentage boost" on spells and melee attacks nothing else.

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6 hours ago, chase_le_mofo said:

 

Do you even read?
 

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

Patch 3.0.3

 

No haste items in vanilla only raw "percentage boost" on spells and melee attacks nothing else.

seriously?

let's go back in time.

Haste items in vanilla that affect spell's.

MQG and Scrolls of Blinding light for paladins.

TBC changes percent haste to Haste Rating.

items that give flat haste rating to spell..

(basically every caster item including gems and old ZG trinkets)

Wotlk still using Haste rating -> nerfs haste rating affecting herbalism/mining/skinning cuz nerds crying about losing black lotus.(not really but you get the reference)

 

also herbalism/mining/skinning is a spelllllllllllllllllllllllll   Xdddddddddddddddddddddddddd

learn the game before claiming you know it.

xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

 

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50 minutes ago, Imbaslap said:

also herbalism/mining/skinning is a spelllllllllllllllllllllllll   Xdddddddddddddddddddddddddd

learn the game before claiming you know it.

xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

 

Maybe it is a spell , but it should be unaffected by this sort of abuse, otherwise feel free to provide evidence for that.

/Kind regards Killerduki

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2 hours ago, killerduki said:

Maybe it is a spell , but it should be unaffected by this sort of abuse, otherwise feel free to provide evidence for that.

/Kind regards Killerduki

that would be a custom change against blizzlike.

the sources all point to it occuring from vanilla-wotlk.

its not abuse if its blizzlike huehue

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24 minutes ago, Imbaslap said:

that would be a custom change against blizzlike.

the sources all point to it occuring from vanilla-wotlk.

its not abuse if its blizzlike huehue

As i said , feel free  to prove it.

There are many bugs within Private servers which are never seen in Blizzard , neither can be found in archives.

One of the bugs is casting the mount get slow cast when you get cursed by Felwood demons.

These bugs should never affect mount or herbing or mining , but they do exist within private servers as client side bugs.

Something like Holy Resistance , client side bug which was fixed as server side unpublished .

/Kind regards Killerduki

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2 hours ago, Imbaslap said:

that would be a custom change against blizzlike.

As if they didn't made any, LUL

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u need heir 5 pala to own all other mages

blessing of protection + divine intervention on ur side

consecration on other side 

:)

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14 hours ago, Hudson said:

If you have evidence that the current mechanics are inaccurate, I would encourage you to submit a bug report on the bug tracker: https://github.com/elysium-project/server/issues

With alibistic statements like that you are not helping just dumming down the conversation on the problem. By the looks of your responses you have also mage doing the same. It is a problem for any other class who wants to compete for black lotus in AV. Either dont do custom changes or be consistent. You nerfed rogues and hunters farms but refuse to change something that only mages have access to and defend it because it doesnt create gold for the server but makes rich only them?

Mages still have upper hand even without MQG with sheep, iceblock, nova. MQG currently serves to outcast another mage or paladin 

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Hope the weekend be over soon so we can get the next topic about premades and then in 3 weeks this same thing being overlooked and by that time lotuses will go maybe for 150g

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