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While I do agree that this is conflating two different issues. I get the point. I don't understand why multi-boxing is banned either. The only time I think it should be an issue is if you have someone running around murdering all the mobs in an area preventing other players from progressing in the game. Which I would submit is effectively the same as camping a corpse, or being a dick in a world PVP sense. I think it should be okay if you're off in some secluded corner of the world. Aside from server traffic and memory issues, I really don't see any downsides to why it should matter. I preface this statement with that I appreciate the work the Elysium team does to keep their vanilla servers up and provide the game they do. The Elysium team (from what I've seen of people making comments on these forums) don't really give two shits what their player base suggests/wants. They've got hard beliefs on how they want to run their server. And that's fine, its effectively a free service after all. Whenever people complain about something, they state this is how it was in vanilla. If people do something that was allowed in vanilla but they don't like (like multi-boxing) they simply write it off in an extremely vague manner. That's also not to say there weren't some parts of vanilla that truly and completely sucked that could be made less terrible, but again, they're unwilling to provide anything other than the service they deem is vanilla. While I actually have no problem paying for a vanilla MMO server on a monthly sub fee, I could never do so on Elysium because of the points above. That and that one picture they posted on their twitter that looked like some Elysium based party....

I'm not sure if this is actually a bug or not. Here's the thing. I've spec'd into the improved stam buff talent. The spell description on the cast bar increases from like 54 to 70. However, when cast, the buff on the interface displays 54. Anyone else notice this?

Hah, I didn't even notice the change. I can assure you I didn't edit the quote. I'll agree with the idea that the dev team dropped the ball here. That being said, they seem strangely obstinate about admitting that this might have been a mistake along with the mount price. Like, I'd understand a "Yep, we screwed the pooch here". But they're just like, "THIS IS HOW VANILLA WAS!" and any player who played vanilla having the knowledge that this is false. That being said. They do a good job of providing stable servers which is appreciated. I don't want it to sound like the handwork they put in maintaining this game is unappreciated.

So I don't know much about the other server (think its stratholme?) but Night Haven was marketed as a fast progression server. Maybe make the other server slow progression? (Idk if it is) and make a transfer tool? I think this progression for TBC is reasonable. +1 for fast.

Well, Its a free service. So its not like it'd be hard to make two accounts. Allowing different factions on the same account just cuts down on the number of accounts that get made.

It's not so much "sometimes" NPC's getting killed. It's WPL, Wintersping, etc, being camped at all hours. Retail Vanilla was never this bad. Sometimes sure, you'd get camped for an hour or have some 60's screwing around near menethil. This has been everyday, at nearly every hour making it nearly impossible to enjoy the game. At least open a PVE server so people can level there and transfer over to PVP.

Yea. I'm stuck at 54. Nowhere to quest since all the FP's are being camped with quest givers being killed. Thanks dev team for killing vanilla.... now I'll have to go be productive with my life.

Mmmm, I do love getting camped... ALL. THE. TIME. When all I want to do is level. At least make the guards of FP's stronger with faster repop timers. I would bet money we won't be seeing anymore record breaking player numbers as people leave the server due to the unplayability in regards to questing.

People keep saying do dungeons. That's sooooo slow...

Yea. You literally can't quest on Nighthaven without getting constantly ganked. I doubt we'll be seeing the record login numbers that they posted about as I suspect the low level players will be quitting.