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no point to contiue here , ill try kronos 3 , look like they have more players and alot of good chances that support casual player too . GL try farm some honor without a stabil group

Ill try to answer yor Les say 1 game take 15 ( waying for q and game duration) so u need 150 min for 20 rep= 2,5 hour per 20 rep From neutral to exalted you need 42000 rep 42000 / 20 * 2,5 = 2102.5 You need 2102 hours , GL m8

no one deny this. since AV and WSG get online i use honorspy. And as i told you before the standings are the same before premates and after ( for 1-30 @ last ) and is normal to be like that becouse those ppl used alot of time for it. you need to understand hows game works. Promote in ranks are based on the amount of ppl that take honor in that week, that means that a person who give pvp alot of time need also other ppl to play. without those casual ppl harcore farmers will get stuck too. So to have pvp need to keep game atractive for casuals too. You have like 3 big hardcore premates in aly side , and ike the same on horde side, horde side dodge aly premates (allways you will see just 1 horde player who enter and the rest join "if is ok") that means you have only casuals vs premates matches if a casual player have 1 hour to spend ( before or after raid dont matter when) he can spend it in pvp ( and then is a win-win - hardcore pvp farmers need casual in order to have progress) and dont worry noone will get r14 playnd 1 -2 hour /day pvp. So yes if you wish to farm honor you need to have care of casuals too

Disband premates and buying gold will be useless or at last it wont worth. Ex: he get flag in his base, but withot premate yours can rich your base too, so you have the chance to take it back and poit. So spaming potion it wont worth ( he will not end game in 5 min anymore) Dont say thet they dont deserve that standing , since the play alot they rly work for it. But before premates they play the same amout of time and have the same standing. So premates dont affect theyrs chances to get r14, just ruing the game for the rest, and step by step the server will go down .

What is the point of bring another arguments if u agee that non premate is in 90% guarnateed loss. To promote for higher ranks we need players to make pvp, . No players no pvp. Maeby for some ppl that farm 350k-500k honor / week is fun abd looks ok, but @ some point they will get stuck too. And to be onest standings are the same before and after premate ( tot 50 are the same pkayes - top 10 for sure) , that means ppl that stay non stop in premate wont be affected. But they affect the game for the rest , and kill server pvp day by day

agree with fixpvp , premates killed the WSG for alliance too. If you are not in premate you can not farm any honor. in 1 of 6-7 games if you are lucky you will get a non premate mach ( when you have a fair chance of winning) in rest only premate maches. When WSG started ( before premates get allowed ) maches where more fun and more ballanced ( winning rate wos somewhere 55-45%) I thing removing the premates will keep the pvp ballanced and more ppl interest for it