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DPS Warriors and Rogues - Weapon Skill and Glancing Blows
Lambretta posted a topic in Классовая механика
- Players have a 10% + 2% per point of difference between Mob Defense Skill and Player Weapon SKill chance of landing a Glanging Blow. A Mob's Defense Skill is calculated throught the formula: Mob Level * 5.This means that versus a level 62 mob and assuming you have 300 weapon skill, you have: 10% + 2% * ( MobDefenseSkill - YourWeaponSkill )= 10% + 2% * ( 62*5 - 300 ) = 10% + 2% * ( 310 - 300 )= 10% + 2% * 10= 10% + 20%= 30%What we take from that formula is that versus a level 62 mob and with 300 weapon skill 30% of your White Melee Swings will be glancing blows. Versus a level 63 Raid Boss you have a: 10 + 2 * ( 63*5 - 300 ) = 40% chance of getting a Glancing Blow.____________________________________________________________________So, they can't crit and have reduced damage. Of how much is the reduction?- This as been theorycrafted a lot and I haven't really reached a 100% correct formula, but I know that the damage reduction vs a mob of level 63 is 30%, and versus a mob of level 62 is around 20%'s. With this, I have come to the following formula which seems to be working:It is the same formula as for the previous question, but without the first 10% there. So the reduction is: 2% per point of difference between Mob Defense Skill and Player Weapon Skill.So again, versus a mob of level 62 and with 300 weapon skill, the damage on glancing blows is reduced by: 2% * ( MobDefenseSkill - YourWeaponSkill)= 2% * ( 62*5 - 300 )= 2% * ( 310 - 300 )= 2% * 10= 20%If we apply this formula to a level 63 mob we get 2% * ( 63*5 - 300 ) = 30%. This makes me believe this is the correct formula for the reduction. I've gone through wowwiki's Glancing Blow page but a lot of it no longer applies to 1.12.1 and is obviously updated. Anyway, vs mobs of lebel 62 you will have you glancing blow's damage reduced by 20% and versus level 63 it will be reduced by 30%.____________________________________________________________________Got it. So versus Raid bosses (level 63) I have a 40% chance of my White Melee swings being Glancing Blows who will have their damage reduced by 30%. Can I prevent it?- No. There is no way to prevent Glancing Blows. They will always have the same % of occuring versus those mobs. Meaning you will always have a 40% chance of getting a glancing blow on raid bosses no matter what. What you can do is lower their damage reduction. This is done through Weapon Skill.____________________________________________________________________So, what is this Weapon Skill all about? Seems like a pro stat.- Weapon Skill is far from being a pro stat as most people think. It is THE BEST AND ULTIMATE STAT for any Melee DPS! Your priority is to cap this as soon as you can!And why? Because weapon skill lowers the damage reduction from glancing blows. If you cap it, the damage reduction on glancing blows will be reduced to 0%. This means you will still have glancing blows, but they will do the same damage as your normal hits, successfuly 'erasing' glancing blows by transforming them into normal hits.____________________________________________________________________Wow, now I get why Weapon Skill is that good. And how much Weapon Skill do I need to do that?- After some testing of my own and some research through the internet, I've come to the conclusion that Each point of Weapon Skill successfuly reduced the Glancing Blow reduction by 3%. The formula for this is no more then:3% * Each Point Of WeaponSkill In GearNow, to see what is the value that we need to cap it versus a raid boss of level 63, we have to compare this formula to the Damage Reduction Formula vs a level 63 and see the result. This gets us to:WeaponSkill Needed Formula = GlancingBlow Damage Reduction Formula<=>3% * (Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 2% * ( MobDefenseSkill - YourWeaponSkill)<=>3% * (Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 2% * ( 63*5 - 300 ) <=>3% * (Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 2% * ( 315 - 300 ) <=>3% * (Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 2% * 15 <=>3% * (Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 30% <=>(Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 30% / 3% <=>(Each Point Of WeaponSkill In Gear) = 10So, maths being done, versus a level 63 mob, it is needed a total of + 10 Weapon Skill in order to negate the Glancing Blow Damage Reduction.____________________________________________________________________Ok, now I know what Glancings are and how to reduce them and I understand that Weapon Skill is a good stat. But still, why would I wanna do that instead of focusing in other offensive stats?- Still haven't figured that out? A LOT of your damage, especially at early stages of the game when you are rage starved a lot (And I'm not talking about rogues because their highest damage source will always be the White Melee Swings), will come from your White Melee Swings. And versus raid bosses, 40% of these hits will be glancings blows, who will have their damage reduced by 30%. Suposing you had 310 Weapon skill, and no damage reduction on glancing blows, you would do rougly 10% more overall DPS. This overcomes any possible stat instead of Weapon Skill on a single item.____________________________________________________________________Oh so that's why. Awsome. And what Items bring weapon skill?- Well, there are quite a couple that bring it, but you will find it more often in Weapons, although many are useless as a 1h Mace in ZG Zone Drop that gives +2 1h Mace Weapon Skill. That one is pretty much useless.There is one item in special that almost caps your Weapon Skill for Fury Warriors. This is the Edgemaster's Handguards. These Mail gloves give +7 Weapon Skill to 1h Swords, Axes and Daggers. These are also the BEST Fury Warrior gloves in the game, including Naxx's Gauntlets of Annihilation. These increase your DPS higher then the Gauntlet's.Another example is a Dagger from Prince Tortheldrin in Dire Maul West named Distracting Dagger. It increases your Dagger Weapon Skill by 6. This is one amazing Dagger for rogues even thou they do not realise of it.There is also a 2h Sword which increases your 2h Sword Weapon Skill by 8 named Obsidian Edged Blade, from Molten Core. This one is a great 2h Arms PvE DPS sword.Mugger's Belt, which drops from Captain Kromcrush in Dire Maul North, is probably one of the ultimate rogue dagger belts out there aswell, probably like the Edgemaster's Handguards are for Fury warriors. Because this belt not only increases Dagger Weapon Skill by 5 but it also grants you 1% Critical Strike and 16 Stamina.Zulian Hacker is another weapon that gives + 2 Weapon Skill, in this case to 1h Axes. It is a great Main hand weapon for Fury warriors starting their Raiding on ZG and MC if combined with the Edgemaster's Handguards as you will be at +9 Weaponskill which is almost the Weapon Skill Cap.Also, in MC, Aged Core Leather Gloves, are THE BEST rogue dagger gloves, because they give you +5 Dagger Weapon skill, along with other Stats like 1% Critical Strike and 15 Strengh and 8 Fire Resistance. These combined with Muggler's Belt, make a Dagger Rogue go crazy in DPS.вот такой вот гайдик вам для наших жосских парней) подрезал с нашего гильд форума...вообщем дерзайте...) -
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