Kadir

You still can't understand the difference between quest items and non-quest items and how databases show their droprates?

Do you really think that all comments from TBC and WOTLK are absolutely relevant on classic server? Especially those from period with achievements for companion collection which drop from the same mob? Do you really think that database with added kills done by all those companion farmers AND kills by groups formed by 2 factions clearing to 4 pillars AND kills from 2 factions doing alchemy quests will still show you the correct percentage? This is quest item, not a regular item, that really makes a difference. I don't like to repeat myself but you seem not to understand my previous post. And to keep the level of absurd high enough please post "proofs" from WoD period next time. I wish them to be scrollable.

I've never said it was 100%, do you see it somewhere? We should have balanced droprates on server, not too low and not too high. Right now it was made too low after previous too high droprate. It's bit chaotic to have to change things twice. I believe that number of issues in the bugtracker didnt give time for developer to deeply analyze what he was doing.

Nice, I missed your ambushes from Valk

Let's try to see the result of advertising the server if we will get questions about the possibility of getting rank 14 and the answer would be "No".

Would be nice to get the info from administration about the quantity of ppl inside the honor standing for both factions since armory is not yet done. Then we would know how many events / raid vs raid fighting we would have to organise.

If the comments are not viable to you, why did you just spam them in your post, but only those comfortable to you? This is the quest item, mobs are killed by 2 factions for various other quests and also by farmers for the whelpling. You forgot about it and numbers won't tell you the truth because it counts all kills even without the actual quest. Real droprate is higher then shown in database because of that.

Must be another topic about Hordecore... oh well ;d

Me neither right now. It's the usual tragedy about finding anything about isues related only to vanila. There's lots of information only about the penalties which were never added. But I do know though that we had negative ranks on Rivera server in 2006 so Valkyrie was not the first to do so. It's a lost knowledge why they were added there during vanila existence on official realms.

Do you remember what have you wrote in year 2011? https://elysium-project.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=5856&page=6

Shenna this thing which you linked refer to honor decay. That decay won't get you below rank 1, which is true. It's common mistake to quote one sentence out of context. Let me post bigger quote: It's not about existence or non-existence of ranks. Such a thing like rank 0 does not exist. There's just a status of kind of "never being registered by the honor system before" ( a person non-ranked, who never made 15 hk during one week). Does the GetPVPRankInfo command work on this core? Does it index "private" and "scout" as 5?

R14 characters Druids: Wisp, Kerod, Lavra Hunters: Vedrokotyat, Kilgore, Bobriik Mages: Spree, Azuron, Dopolzi, Jlblcblu, Svush Priests: Inzane, Ruinxorn, Kastiil, Jacobs, Angy Rogues: Darniuss, Chocolate, Eternal, Tenaria, Redfull, Basturman, Chainsaw, Cmex Shamans: Lexus, Iggl, Sides Warlocks: Katrin, Entlayst, Nomercy, Mors, Kadiro, Sezar, Absinth, Caretaker Warriors: Roboshnayder, Selphie, Sdrom, Ogrin, Xau, Alexion, Mimokrokodil, Ereez, Sing, Kedor, Thayorn R13 characters Druids: Energie, Leafspam, Silverhoof, Weteran Hunters: Mages: Angie, Frostytuteq, Redray Priests: Rogues: Slivko Shamans: Claud, Naut, Raine, Nikken, Osirus Warlocks: Nestle Warriors: Skiftnyckeln, Enof, Tanunax If I forgot to mention somebody I'm very sorry for it, could have missed him by accident. Pvp was very active on the old realm and thats our result for just one faction: 46 of rank 14 characters and 17 of rank 13 characters in Horde. Thanks to everyone who participated. We'll see if the new realm can do better then this.

Routes of sand gathering caravanas were probably the best camping spots back then. I know what you mean, but didnt want to judge anyone here.

I recall one stolen hunter who was transfered and some lock (mb you can remember their names?), Sparkie also transfered from horde to alliance and finished pvp there, some of SC chars were transfered from horde to alliance during the existence of SMG and later Verve. I stayed in horde so can't create full list for other faction, it would be interesting to see it though.

Chainsaw started in horde then transfered to alliance then back again;d Some people also transfered from horde to alliance and they are not included here, so the list may not be full, sorry if I missed somebody.

Constant rivalisation drives pvp and makes this journey to rank 14 so intriguing. Vanila pvp is kind of a marathon race which require teamwork and determination and above all time. Epics at the end are just the result. Lack of participants, too long queues or fighting against same team all the time makes it boring and pointless to start it on the particular server. I'm afraid that we can't understand each other cause people who value pvp above all other aspects are not attracted by nostalgic tweets and wallpapers but the presence of pvp action on the server only. Who's responsible from the staff for the status of pvp on the server and the pvp events?

Old "fixed" topics should stay, cause ppl provide evidence there and nobody would like to invest their time in finding it again if accidentally something would get broken when changing other things. Why don't you accept that there are other cultural centers in the world, its the same if on russian server you would force everyone to speak russian. It's not possible to force everyone to speak english and unnatural. Also the rus-speaking part of the server contributed to it a lot during its existence and imho its unfair to disregard it even if you don't know their language. That's really funny how you try all the time to force your own opinion, by telling that you won't bring your friends if server won't be like you want. Also you're not tolerant to opinion of the others who stayed on the server much longer then you and would like them to leave. It's pathetic how you label improvements proposed by others as "fun" and your own as those only right and just. So i'm telling once more: Accept the fact that over the 7 years Valkyrie players contributed a lot to the server's current status of scripting by losing hours on finding proofs and writing the reports which you cant understand because you dont know the language. Does it make the reports wrong and should they be deleted? Do you know that some of those writing in russian part of the bugtracker are now members of the developing team? Accept another fact that BG commands made pvp very popular and active on previous realm during it's best times. You can't know it ofcourse cause didn't see it with your own eyes. You're forming opinion about something which you didnt test. Accept finally that others have different opinion then you or your friends. You would be surprised how many people are backing up the idea of improving the pvp by making it more popular. It was well tested that the commands bring many more people to BGs then the lack of commands.

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Finally orthodox aproach to everything blizzlike was abandoned. Intelligent adjusting of difficulty of the raids might be an interesting server's feature. Since the pve part of the community got what they wanted, I humbly repeat the request to return the .BG (WS AB AV) commands to boost pvp side of the server also. This would simply increase the number of battlegrounds cause just a couple per day is really not enough. Let the pve-oriented ppl have their adjusted raid difficulty and pvpers have their short BG queues.

Yes and delays in opening of new content on Nostalrius was one of the main reasons for ppl who started on Launch Day to leave the server in the middle of it's existence (including me). Guild Grizzly also left Nostalrius at this point but I can't speak for them. Each guild have their own progress and shouldn't be limited by the progress of others and forced to wait. It's like waiting for the last character to hit 60, new guilds may be created in any given point of the time.

Remove wdb folder

For pvpers of highest ranks it's more convenient to have update during a weekend because you usually have to log earlier before it to check honor standing. Do you really want ppl to log at 3 am server time on wednesday? Be human. If it will be automatic, then you shouldn't care when it will happen, only for pvpers it's important.

That's not a topic about it and you will not find any of my posts suggesting it, cause it simply makes no sence. This is a topic only about BG commands and let's stick to it Five basic questions ppl ask me about any server wherever I move are: 1. If it's stable without crashes and rollbacks. 2. How big is the population. 3. How well is it scripted. 4. What kind of raid content is open and if there are enough guilds which can clear it. 5. Status of pvp on the server (time in queue for bg, quantity of ppl in honor standing, how many bgs are in progress simultaneously etc). What should I tell them? That the improvement which intensified pvp was reversed? Amount of players on the server is actually determined by what kind of entertainment server can provide. More active pvp is a factor which can attract even more ppl to stay here. Don't you understand that it's a reason enough to split population to 2 factions having nothing in common with each other? On a private server with population of middle size. Because you have to choose one to maximise gain there are lot less ppl who can afford choosing both, means... activity is lower on both fields. That's exactly why we would like to recommend this command, because it makes BG more popular and available for wider spectrum of ppl and less of your precious time is spent in queue. I don't live in a dream idealistic world and know how ppl react to low frequency of bg procs. What is bad actually in finding sollution to old realm problems? We're back to the part of what is and what is not possible on the server and how it affect online. Do you think that the pvp films promoting the server created by Hordecore would be possible without active pvp? If you're biased against HC, tell it openly. But forming opinion that we fought against undergeared oponents when other faction cleared weekly 3 BWLs to our one is somewhat ridiculous. You brought such a big cannon with you but... missed! Pvp here was always a team effort. No Check the warsong faction vendor. P.S. Sorry that it's so long but we're gonna make this topic epic together with Motorbreath

Thanks Queeky, good luck in fighting war for language purity ;d I didn't see any major conflicts between nationalities on the server yet, so strategy seems to be working.

You don't trust that, what worked once may as well work again? Ofc sticking to everything blizzlike is safe, but its also blind copy without adressing an issue of not very active pvp. Low activity of pvp is a non blizzlike thing to me.