Kadir

Don't worry, we know each other with Motorbreath since 2010 year and it's always been a pleasure to discuss things with him. We enjoy the realm and also enjoyed the previous realm which those same admins created but also try to think forward and discuss improvements.

Motorbreath, I don't think it's right to treat BG as an unique feature and to prepare for it like for Christmass cause it proced once per hour. It's a platform of entertainment. Same like a raid, like an event, like quests like everything else in this game. What are you gonna do with it, it's up to you but it must exist. Rest is ideology. It's not true that pvp and pve can't be or shouldn't be done by same person. Somehow on Valkyrie Hordecore had no trouble with both (including me). On Nostalrius there were also ppl who had done both (including ppl in my guild), because actually 10k people could provide enough platform for such things. Server community should live as one, not devided into 2 ghettos with everything separated especially on private server. You like such division and I don't. We don't have enough population for such experiments. More popular pvp doesn't exclude emerging of leaders, on the contrary it actually increases it, cause of quantity of participants and natural instinct to get above the average level. Waiting in queue for an hour does not motivate anyone, it actually provoke to asking if you had chosen right server, cause there is no platform for pvp. Constant fighting against others and discovering that you could do better can motivate. Blizzard by year 2006 had over 20 opened classic servers and could cover mistakes with population management by constant migrations between realms. Here there is only one realm Elysium, there is no room for mistakes. What was good for such company may not work here, cause of difference in scale of the project. In my opinion Elysium can benefit a lot more from close cooperation of admins and playerbase cause simply, one can't exist without the other. And will not benefit from blindly following everything what was done by others. Realm must have it's own strategy for survival on the classic scene. In my opinion this strategy should include BG commands for increasing of frequency of BG procs. (Like it was tested and worked before, thats nothing new).

It's ok, we are open for ppl writing here in other languages if they want to communicate with polish players too. Don't delete such posts please, let's be more tolerant to language differences. Besides, they were my friends asking important things I'm also writing on rus-speaking part of forums a lot, so they are comming here to visit. It's nothing wrong.

Their other realm have them working since 7 years and somehow there are no complaints and they are not shutting down. Seriously I think that you didn't even check how well they increase pvp, but form negative opinion because... such things didn't work on other servers? I can reasure you that those commands were tested and worked well on Valkyrie for years. We don't try to implement some product of imagination, but working and tested feature. There was a poll here: http://www.strawpoll.me/10766927/r And was ignored.

We've got around 900 online so far and just 5 ppl on bg, those commands would certainly help to increase pvp. It could be good idea to just reg to bg if you have enough of lvling.

Please stop deleting posts for no reason

Nic na forum HC nie było, a zaglądam co jakiś czas. Nikt nic nie mówił, no to się zadeklarowałem że zacznę w MCST. A planujecie coś poważnego Ten? Ile osób będzie?

To zagramy przeciw sobie bo ja zaczynam w ally. Niestety reszta gildii z którymi miałem kontakt w hordzie za wolno się organizowała. Poza tym po co komu dwa locki rank 14 w jednej frakcji jeśli w pewnym momencie będzie merge? ;d P.S. dobrze sobie radzisz z polskim Wolper, gratuluje

Btw, I just saw 800 users on Valkyrie forum simultaneously, you've got to verify estimated population of Elysium way up.

Imho there is not much sence in going for rank 14 if it's just for itself. Only when there are equally strong oponents on the bgs or wb this gear is useful. In HC r14 chars were needed for breaking alliance numerical superiority on world bosses for example. Fighting new players with r14 char gives 0 satisfaction, it makes you lazy, gear superiority start to cover your own mistakes and you stop improving your skills because you dont have to. In short: If you feel that there is still rivalisation on the server which require improving gear to r14, then go for it. If not then dont do it, fighting weaker oponents will just make you bored.

Main difference between Nost and Valkyrie was shorter time for closing bg without enough team members on oposing side, just 2 minutes here and 5 on Nost. This way it didnt prove to be good strategy to form too strong premade cause ppl would just leave and you would get no honor. Fighting against empty bg was not possible here. Simply too litle time. So some sort of "half-premades" (party for progressing in ranks) were introduced to have a good healthy party capable of winning, yet not to scare oposing faction off battlegrounds. Good enough for steady honor farming but not totally outclassing anyone in terms of gear or buffs. Flasked premades existed here too, but their purpose was not to dodge, to find the most empty bg, but to break too victorious "half-premades" or fight other premades and create films promoting server. Guild Hordecore produced couple of them. You see, 2 minutes for closing bg means that creating a party that can overpower anyone doesnt make sence for regular farming of honor. Cause you need the oponents who will agree to fight against you Means fair fight is needed to win.

Those bubble-hearting, pink-nicked, sulf-waving paladins in chicken suit... ;d

Special thanks for this.

That's true, at start Nost had some unworking group of quests, (escorts could be completed by just single character), some objects had too long respawn timer and so on. But they could fix those problems in short time with the help of testers. Valkyrie gms always followed the path of non-intervention in the game process, such actions like teleporting without reason, morphing were forbidden to them by admins. And I think that such situation when something was completly broken never happened to me, I really don't recall any situation when I had to ask for help of gms. Once after some "magic" pull from our tank, boss was stuck in textures and raid leader asked for reset, but that was it. Later even this scenario could not happen again cause devs changed some textures.

I started on Nost on launch day, also played here and can't judge which server should be labeled as harder. I guess at the end its all about invested time in development. For example somebody scripted here mobs in tirisfal to give fort to each other and heal + later run properly for reinforcements. Or I recall scholo as being slighly harder here. Really hard to judge, I guess that clever playing will make things easy, idiotic moves will make things hard. LOS was a subject of many debates during the time I was playing here. Finally it was agreed that the server should have this weird unlogical blizzlike version for patch 1.12, when ppl could actually shoot through trees... Nost did it the same way. Can't help you with 3rd question ;d

You missed something. When an issue was corrected once already, there's higher chance that it might be easly corrected again, right? They still have time.

Haha, some ppl would like to have everything even BEFORE server officially launched. This lists which you presented here includes lots of things already fixed on Valkyrie so for sure devs know how to do it. Also they still have old archived reports about those topics (written by many ppl from my guild), so there's nothing like a lack of information. We searched it once already.

Yeah Xudojnik is right, you had exactly 24 kills which is 1 too little to enter standing. Also rank gained depends on quantity of ppl in the honor standing (more ppl means faster ranking up) and your current position among them, not the amount of honor. If others farm less honor, you also need to farm less honor to get your disired place in standing, if they farm more, you also need more. If you plan serious testing, create yourself 100 x 60 lvl characters with 25 kills each and give one like 10k honor more. You'll see some results after honor update one week later.

Yeah Yenza, i'm all about the results of such initiative. Anything which really increase the frequency of battlegrounds and intensity of world pvp, be that the BG commands or such item or anything else, will get my support. Some ppl might not trust custom features at all at first, but this one was tested and liked throughout the years. I feel we should give it a chance again.

I would recommend everyone to start on the new realm to increase it's chance of success. And once progress there will reach the level of AQ 40 ask the administration for possibility of merging old accounts into new realm (cause of our loyal support for the server).

Please add me to the list ;d Warlock at first but i'm planning to expand later. Especially in case of future merge...

Can't join bg while in combat. Button will be grayed out and you will not be able to click it.

You've got to walk to the battlemaster in any capital city. On lvl 60 it's not a trouble, but imagine those low levels walking on foot... that's why low level brackets were never active. BG commands opened possibility to queue to BG easier when you were bored of constant leveling.

Will you repeat all mistakes of Blizzard and blizzlike bugs too even if they later fixed them? Many people who didn't play on Valkyrie do not realise how well those commands worked in increasing pvp activity and basing on their opinion you had just thrown away part of previous server legacy. Valkyrie in the pick of her popularity had 5-7 minute BG queues thanks to them. You created this poll about the commands with your own hands Queeky: http://www.strawpoll.me/10766927/r Enforcing decision against the voice of majority will likely drive more ppl away then anything else.

Do you have any rational argument against them? How can you know how well they increased pvp activity if you played on other servers only?