Theloras

Lots of AoE fire dmg on Magmadar and Golemag in MC and then Vael, Firemaw and Flamegor in BWL - I put up Judgement of Light on each of those boss fights along with my 8/8 Tier 1 for max healing and caster dps buff from Nightfall

1v10 World PvP - otherwise known as kicking the Hornet's Nest But at least I got the one!

TLDR - SotC isn't 100% blizzlike but it's really not worth the dev time to get it 100% blizzlike As Duki said, you hit for exactly the same amount of damage, only 40% faster - both Seal of Command and Seal of Righteousness are much better alternatives - and that in itself is 100% blizzlike.

Yet another FAP from the Master... Then went 1v10 against a silithid carapace farming group - I got 1 at least!

LOL this dude Maysun FAPs EVERYTIME - I'm dying from laughing...

The FAP Master

Maysun chuggin FAPs LOL

RUN!

and no, I don't think you're pottu but he chimed in earlier in this thread after returning as a GM here - so I sawyin WASSUP to him :P

Well I used to have a more rounded 11/26/14 spec that had Consecration which allowed me to AoE tank but we have several extremely geared Prot Warriors (Pakez especially with his Thunderfury) that it really wasn't needed. I do however tank Nefarian phase 3 undead add spawn with Holy Wrath + Stratholme Holy Water for instant uber AoE agro on the entire pack. Right now, both my guild and I are happy with my spec and what I bring to raids so it's a win-win for us - seeing as I do world PvP ALOT and Reck spec is THE ultimate Paladin PvP spec. The same would apply to what you're advocating as well - as I have always recommended trying new things out, including new classes/specs/raid comps in order to see what works best for different people. If you want to min/max that's fine, but it never interested me.

Keep in mind that I'm not full Ret spec like Smiter is - he does much more DPS than I do with his spec plus he stacks consumables galore. The asset that I bring is utility as you mentioned - I can fill multiple roles at the same time with my flexibility depending on what each boss fight encounter requires On tank heavy damage or raid wide heavy damage fights I can literally come #1 in healing as you can see in the screenshot from tonight's BWL raid - withought casting a single heal - this allows our raid healers to focus on the tanks and not have to worry about keeping the melee (or anyone in my group for that matter) topped off as they all get passive healing from JoLight and my set bonus aoe group heal. The screenshot only shows Effective healing - my total healing was a hell of a lot more as I also had 61% additional Over-healing. Plus the fact that my bringing Blessing of Sanctuary further lowers everyone's incoming dmg by up to 24. Yes, in a pure min/max sense a pure dps class is obviously higher, but can't provide anywhere near the flexibility that my setup, gearset and playstyle can provide.

8/8 Tier 1 set bonus AoE group heal + Judgement of Light = #1 effective healing on Flamegor While swinging Nightfall ain't bad :)

8/8 Tier 1 set bonus AoE group heal + Judgement of Light = #1 effective healing on Flamegor While swinging Nightfall ain't bad :)

HYPE - they fixed it already! AQ40: Twin Emperors scripting - Emperor Vek'nilash is immune to Holy school attacks StadenElysium commented 2 hours ago Fixed for when AQ launches.

These are the debuffs that we put up every raid: 1. Thunderfury Proc (NR vulnerability) 2. Thunderfury Proc (Attack Speed Debuff) 3. Mindflay 4. Curse of Shadow 5. Curse of Elements 6. SPriest Shadow Word Pain 7. Shadow Weaving (spriest shadow vuln) 8. Sunder Armor 9. Nightfall 10. Judgment of Crusader (If Thelo or Smiter raiding) 11. Curse of Recklessness 12. Hunters Mark 13. Shadow Vulnerability (Improved Shadowbolt) 14. Faerie Fire 15. Winters Chill / Scorch 16. Situational Debuff Situational Debuffs 1. Vampiric Embrace - Golemag, Vael, Firemaw, Magmadar, Flamegor 2. Judgement of Light - Golemag, Vael, Firemaw, Magmadar, Flamegor 3. Judgment of Wisdom - Onyxia, Nef, Chromag

As someone who does it full time every raid for my guild, my personal DPS is never a factor because I'm not Ret spec - I'm actually modified Reck spec but instead of putting 1/5 points in Vengeance, I pickup Blessing of Sanctuary for the raid (most people discount having BoSanc but it's actually an incredibly powerful Blessing for reducing incoming raid wide damage + damage to the tanks but also increasing their threat as it does unmitigated holy dmg every time they block). With Seal + Judgement of Righteousness now properly able to trigger weapon procs here on Elysium, Paladins have 2 chances to proc Nightfall every swing and an additional chance every 8 seconds with Judgement cd - similarly I have the same chances to do an AoE group heal when I put on my 8/8 Tier 1 armour as well. As it stands, I can tell you that my casters LOVE me as my average Nightfall proc uptime is ~20-30% at all times. 1 person being able to boost raid wide caster DPS by 15% by that margin isn't anything to sneeze at.

COUGH A Paladin swinging Nightfall with Seal/Judgement of Righteousness has highest Nightfall uptime of any class/spec COUGH :P PS Welcome back Pottu!

not anymore - that was not blizzlike back on Nost and it's been fixed here on Elysium

Going up 1v4 - make sure to at least take out the healer!

Operation Horde Triggered - COMPLETE :)

Ouch time for Futurepis when a 4k Reck Bomb lands... /comfort

a pirate gang bang maybe?

this is the new bug report that I put up on the github tracker: AQ40: Twin Emperors scripting - Emperor Vek'nilash is immune to Holy school attacks

IT'S ME!

then you obviously haven't been paying attention...