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There's been a vigorous debate regarding these four unique proc items going back several years to multiple different private WoW servers: - Fiery Retributer - Blazefury Medallion - Fiery Plate Gauntlets - Storm Gauntlets The Devs here at Elysium have decided to remove all spell damage scaling for them with yesterday's patch and I'm not one to re-open the debate. I'm just stoked that we actually have a 100% working Retribution spec and playstyle so let's focus on the good things shall we? :)

Just a reminder to everyone on exactly what has been fixed so far here: ***ALL PALADIN BUG FIXES ON ELYSIUM FROM DECEMBER 15TH UNTIL JANUARY 7TH*** **Development Update 12.15.2016** - Players and NPCs can no longer obtain Holy resistance by any means. (level-based resists and general spell hit rules still apply to Holy spells) - Consecration no longer scales with attack power. - Fixed Seal of the Crusader’s damage reduction effect. - Seal of Command’s proc now benefits from Sanctity Aura and has a small delay when triggered. - Fixed the scaling of Seal of Righteousness. - Seal of Righteousness can now trigger mainhand weapon procs. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/24778-development-update-12152016/ **Development Update 23.12.2016** - Fixed Holy Light's bonus healing coefficient. - Paladins now generate half as much threat from healing. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/27106-development-update-23122016/ Individual Bug Reports that have been fixed: Seal of Command (SoC), Judgement of Command (JoC) and Judgement of Righteousness (JoR) are not triggering Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item procs - RESOLVED https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/880 Judgement of Command is not scaling with Sanctity Aura or Spell Damage at all - RESOLVED https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/821 Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item proc crits do not trigger the Paladin talent Vengeance - RESOLVED https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/13 Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom proc rate is abysmal on Elysium - RESOLVED https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/820

yes Yes YES FUCK YES!!!!!!!! For the first time since 2006 and retail Vanilla, I can honestly say that Retribution is 100% Blizzlike here on Elysium :)

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Yes, my fellow brothers and sisters of the Light - we have finally reached the Promised Land with our fixes making us for the first time on any private server 100% Blizzlike...

fyi as far as weapon procs that drain life... Ancient Hakkari Manslayer Binds when picked up One-hand Axe 69 - 130 Damage Speed 2.00 (49.8 damage per second) Durability 105 / 105 Requires Level 60 Chance on hit: Steals 48 to 55 life from target enemy. By thantik on 09/14/2006 (Patch 1.12.0) The chance on hit for this axe IS affected by dmg/healing, in turn actually giving you a 200% bonus from it, as the dmg portion is directly affected as well as the heal. (i.e. if you have 400dmg/heal this axe will proc for 448-454dmg, and heal you for that much as well.) Other items which have a similar proc to them are also affected in this manner. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19852#wh-comments

it did on retail vanilla - divine shield made you immune to the feedback dmg

In case anyone missed today's patch notes... Paladins The mana regenerated by Blessing of Wisdom and Greater Blessing of Wisdom will no longer cause Paladins to be put in combat. Judgement of Command now scales with spell power at the correct rate. Seal of Command, Judgement of Command, and Judgement of Righteousness can now trigger weapon procs. REJOICE!!!

holy shit it gets better Seal of Command (SoC), Judgement of Command (JoC) and Judgement of Righteousness (JoR) are not triggering Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item procs #880 ***STATUS - RESOLVED*** Fixed at next build. Stryg — — 2017/01/04 06:01:07

I just got a massive E-Boner folks... Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item proc crits do not trigger the Paladin talent Vengeance ***STATUS - RESOLVED*** Fixed at next build. Will NOT trigger on guaranteed procs like Fiery Plate Gauntlets. Stryg — — 2017/01/04 06:01:14

BWL 1.6 patch the T2 set gets its first overhaul - all STR and AGI is replaced with +Healing AQ 1.9 patch the T2 set gets its last Vanilla overhaul - some STR is added back and +Healing is replaced with +Spell Damage instead

Seal of Command (SoC), Judgement of Command (JoC) and Judgement of Righteousness (JoR) are not triggering Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item procs In our excitement over the bug fix which allowed SoC to scale with both Sanctity Aura and spell damage as well as adding its 0.5 second delay to allow Vengeance to scale with it, we forgot to request that SoC, JoC and JoR be likewise flagged to trigger Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item procs.

That change was reverted on the PTR and never made it to a live server - it is working as intended on the melee hit/crit table and subject to block/dodge/parry/miss.

Seal of Command partial resists against higher level targets are indeed Blizzlike and are the result of level based resistance not actual Holy Resistance. The only way to circumvent level based resistance is to stack spell penetration but would gimp your other stats to the point of it being irrelevant. TLDR - it's working as intended

Holy $hit - both of these bugs have been resolved within an hour of posting on the bug tracker: Judgement of Command is not scaling with Sanctity Aura or Spell Damage at all Fixed at next build. Stryg — — 2017/01/02 01:01:22 Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom proc rate is abysmal on Elysium Fixed at next build. Stryg — — 2017/01/02 01:01:04

Confirmed that Vengeance also doesn't boost Judgement of Command by +15% Holy Damage either: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259745389555613696/265272671309266947/WoWScrnShot_010117_191639.jpg 175 dmg without Vengeance https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259745389555613696/265272717089964032/WoWScrnShot_010117_191648.jpg 171 dmg with Vengeance https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/259745389555613696/265272855086759937/WoWScrnShot_010117_191716.jpg 176 dmg without Vengeance

Judgement of Command is not scaling with Sanctity Aura or Spell Damage at all Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom proc rate is abysmal on Elysium ^^^ These make me sad in the pants ^^^

here's a video example of how Battle Shout produced huge AoE threat prior to the nerf and somewhat similar to how my raiding guild back in retail Vanilla used to do Nefarian phase 1:

HUZZAH - 100% proof in this video that a weapon's "Chance on Hit" melee damage proc crit triggers Vengeance: Suramar Paladin DPS Pre-BC - Uploaded on Nov 4, 2006 - Suramar's Drake Talon Cleaver Fatal Wound proc crits for 376 melee damage - Drake Talon Cleaver Binds when picked up Two-hand Axe 199 - 300 Damage Speed 3.40 (73.4 damage per second) +22 Strength +17 Stamina Durability 120 / 120 Requires Level 60 Chance on hit: Delivers a fatal wound for 240 damage. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=19353 Fatal Wound Melee Range Instant Delivers a fatal wound for 240 damage. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?spell=21140

Judgement of Righteousness, Exorcism, Holy Wrath and Holy Shock BUT If you go with proc items (Fiery Retributer, Fiery Plate Gauntlets/Storm Gauntlets, Blazefury Medallion and of course Lifestealing enchant), spell crit is a huge DPS boost since all of the procs are spells which can crit to trigger Vengeance - once they fix this bug of course: Weapon + Trinket + Enchant + Item proc crits do not trigger the Paladin talent Vengeance

1. With SoR + Fiery you actually want as fast a weapon as you can and stack +spell damage as much as possible in order to maximize your Fire dmg procs (ie: Blade of Hanna). The opposite is if you want to Reck Bomb with SoR and you go for as slow a weapon as possible to maximize your SoR procs for all 5 swings. In your case, I would use Draconic Maul seeing as it is the fastest you have in your inventory atm. 2. Use +Spell damage arcanums on your leg/helm seeing as you want to boost your SoR and Fire dmg procs. As for rings, try to max out as much +hit as you can but in the end its a balance between that and spell dmg. 3. Maelstrom is $hite - proc rate is way too low for it to be worthwhile. Use ZHC + Briarwood Reed or Hand of Justice Enjoy! PS Of course the best weapon to get would be Fiery Retributer from ZG Demon boss as it also has a +Fire dmg on each swing as well and then get the AV +spell damage offhand for max SoR and Fire dmg.

unfortunately no, not here

^^^ Yes, I found this the other day and added the information to the Vengeance bug report ^^^ I also added a new bug report as well: Raid bosses should be immune to Vindication (Paladin talent)

KEEP CALM and RECK BOMB Gotta love the AV Rams!