Theloras

So say we all!

Not everyone is a lawyer and quite frankly there is a great deal of misinformation out there which says, "Hey, if you don't take in money you're ok to to host a WoW server..." Which is why I posted the legal finding that I obtained here in this forum in order to clear the waters and to help others understand the legal implications.

I can't remember - I vendored both sets of my gloves a while ago

The Library of Congress a few years back changed the rules and allowed abandoned games to be modified/emulated but specifically left out network/server based games out of their ruling so WoW is still covered by the DMCA alas.

Yes, I was aware of both of those since she skipped out of the country before the trial began. Unfortunately for her though is that she can never return to the US as she is now a fugitive.

Quite a lot of people actually think that if you dont accept donations or have a payshop then you would be in the clear - I had originally thought that if we accepted donations or had a payshop but then donated said funds to charity that I would be in the clear. Unfortunately, copyright and trademark infringement doesn't work that way and just the act of running the server violates said holdings by Blizzard. As can be seen in the original private server shutdown by Blizzard of Alyson Reeves, operator of Scapegaming: "The total award includes over $3 million in disgorged profits, $85.4 million in statutory damages and $64,000 in attorney's fees." http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/120740/Blizzard_Wins_88M_Judgment_Against_WoW_Private_Server_Owner.php While she had a cash shop and Blizzard estimated her profits at $3 million, the bulk of the total monetary judgement against her was in statutory damages that Blizzard and their legal team most likely determined by: (number of players on Scapegaming) x (nominal WoW sub fee of $15/month) x (total number of months Scapegaming operated) Or at least something to that effect.

no i know but you still run into the 16 slot debuff limit if you try to put up both

you are forgetting that the Nightfall debuff will also boost your personal DPS as well for SoR/JoR and Consecration whereas the anihilator debuff would only increase auto-attack marginally

your personal dps will be $hite with anihilator though and while it will still be meh with Nightfall it's at least a large DPS increase as a decent 2hander compared to a rather lack luster 1hander I'd stay with Nightfall if I were you - it's a known and sought after item to have in raids and the DPS increase for the casters really is apparent to them right away. With SoR swinging Nightfall, I have ~25-30% uptime on the debuff

honestly you will get more acceptance and heads nodding for you if you swing Nightfall since its a very well known item and the debuff makes the casters jizz their pants (ie: it makes a very noticeable difference)

which server do you play on? if you're on anathema get Black Grasp of the Destroyer instead and use a fast weapon with SoR for insane mana regen with JoW up

I, myself swing Nightall with SoR spell dmg build for my guild and I suggested the possibility of adding another Paladin using Annihilator or a similar type weapon with SoR but due to 16 debuff slot limitations, it really wasn't viable for our situation (ie: our MT has Thunderfury so that puts up 2 debuff slots alone): 1. Thunderfury Proc (NR vulnerability) 2. Thunderfury Proc (Attack Speed Debuff) 3. Mindflay 4. Curse of Shadow 5. Curse of Elements 6. SPriest Shadow Word Pain 7. Shadow Weaving (spriest shadow vuln) 8. Sunder Armor 9. Nightfall 10. Judgment of Crusader (If Thelo or Smiter raiding) 11. Curse of Recklessness 12. Hunters Mark 13. Shadow Vulnerability (Improved Shadowbolt) 14. Faerie Fire 15. Winters Chill / Scorch 16. Situational Debuff Situational Debuffs 1. Vampiric Embrace - Golemag, Vael, Firemaw, Magmadar, Flamegor 2. Judgement of Light - Golemag, Vael, Firemaw, Magmadar, Flamegor 3. Judgment of Wisdom - Onyxia, Nef, Chromag Considered but not included: 1. Thunderclap - doesn't stack with TF proc. Since we have two TF's now, should never be needed. 2. Impale - this will automatically be put on the boss but since it's low prio will be pushed off and can't push off high prio debuffs. 3. Demoralizing Shout (140 AP reduction to boss) - doesn't do much in raids. isn't worth the slot

@everyone - FYI - even though it's not in the dev update list - this was fixed last week as well Multiple Weapons' Drain Life Chance on Hit procs are scaling at only 43% of spell damage when they should scale at 100% - RESOLVED https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/1287 for Paladins on Anathema at least, Neretzek is now THE BEST RECK BOMB WEAPON IN THE GAME

it should proc off of both white and SoR and should also trigger Vengeance when it crits that was the tradeoff for the devs removing its scaling with spell dmg they took down the original bug reporting repository on the website but this was confirmed several months ago

read my reply to him

anyone with the ring see any update on the proc rate at all since 1.10?

Roxanne - nothing should be able to go through Divine Shield in Vanilla - nothing.

RIP @Pogbig x3 He then tried FAPing twice, still failed and then ran away for good lol -edit- he just came back so it's x4 now :) /respect good on you man

Remember when @killerduki and I were called austistic clowns when we had the nerve to question the implementation of downvoting forum posts and the inherent trolling and $hit disturbing that would result? Well, it seems that we weren't the only ones who felt that way... Ornyx Community Manager 1144 posts 2 days ago Yes, we’ve recently pushed an update to the WoW forums that removes the ability to downvote posts made by other players. We originally added this feature as a means for players to assist with forum moderation by upvoting helpful posts and downvoting inappropriate or toxic posts. In practice, however, we found that it was primarily being used for things like downvoting a post simply because they disagreed with it, which was not the intent, and too often led to different opinions getting unfairly buried. Moving to an upvotes-only environment will remove this unintended abuse, while still allowing players to give recognition to posts that have a positive impact on the World of Warcraft community. As a reminder, you can still report inappropriate or abusive posts to the moderation team by selecting the “Report Post” option located in the dropdown menu on the right of the offending post. https://us.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/20757587012#8

why was it moved - it's in regard to the downvoting issue here on elysium and completely on topic I didn't flame anyone or name/shame anyone nor did I swear or say anything untoward.

In Vanilla nothing should be able to go through Divine Shield at all even stuff that doesn't do damage.

He's talking about Divine Shield - it is a common and known bug on every private Vanilla server that a Warlock's Succubus can seduce a Paladin through Divine Shield. It's lame as fuck.

Yea, I don't see why this couldn't be implemented - not a bad idea at all :)

this thread made me /giggle

I'm actually not Ret myself anymore - I'm a modified Reck spec with BoSanctuary instead of 1/5 Vindication and swing Nightfall for my guild. My boy Smiter is full Retribution however and you can see his gear and raidstats here: http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=Ana&player=Smiter http://realmplayers.com/RaidStats/PlayerOverview.aspx?realm=Ana&player=Smiter