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Yeah you're right man, you were totally right we should have given all of our cores to you for rep so you could craft your PvP maces instead of getting Nightfall plans etc, since you were such a dedicated member that raided like five times in the 6 months you were in the guild. Since we didn't do this, we favored other professions and that's unacceptable. Breakthrough got rid of you for stirring up drama, you didn't get rid of Breakthrough.

I understand where you're coming from completely and don't disagree with it, but 90% of the decisions we make in Breakthrough we make as a guild, through polls, etc, because I like to keep everyone involved, this is just how we do it. Like I said I don't expect to change anyone's mind, it's just how we do things!

This thread is irrelevant man, it's a crybaby that was outbid and tried to make us look bad, not knowing that we have screenshots. It's worked for 7 months just fine.. There's nothing I can do about crybabies. I wasn't the one doing DKP in this as it's our second raid group, but I've always welcomed anyone to challenge me on any piece of loot that's been bid on, and my guild members trust me, nothing shady here. Even then, if people have that concern they are more than welcome to move on. I didn't say people hustle the system, I said people hustle other people, by bidding them up and bailing out, that's exactly how auctions work in real life, and people do that. Either way, we all voted in the early days of our guild, and people like this type of bidding. It doesn't matter if you do because you're not in our guild, all this is turning into is your opinion vs mine, which starts sounding political, we don't have to agree, and that's fine.

Because there is different ways to bid, we did a guild poll, and this is what everyone wanted. 1) You can do a public auction off bid where people tend to overpay for items and get hustled by members. 2) You can do a whisper auction off bid where people don't know who is hustling them for items. 3) You can do a single silent bid (which we do) where people bid once, the price they feel the item is worth. It works out really well actually and is far less drama. Like I stated in another post somewhere in here, it's not a problem with the guild, it's not a problem with DKP. It's a sob story of a warrior that was outbid on an item and somehow that makes us a ninja guild.

You know that's not true dude. Stop with the rumors bro, if for nobody else, stop for me, I never did anything wrong to you. You had your concerns, I checked into it, they were false concerns, which now makes these false rumors. Either way, whatever train of thought leads one to feeling sorry for someone that lost an item that he got fairly outbid on when we have all of the screenshots, anyone that has a brain can clearly see there was no wrong doing at all, and definitely nothing got ninjaed. It is interesting how all of the members we've removed from the guild in the last 7 months have seemed to gather here.

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Watch out for what? Watch out for getting outbid on items? Damn those Breakthrough guys, allowing me to be outbid on an item! Damn all humanity!

What we do is fine and generally doesn't has issues riplip, DKP has been around for ages (yes it has its flaws), the problems arise when cry babies play the game, which unfortunately happens and there's nothing that can be done about that.

Hordes #1 scrawny spastic kid.

Sure, I encourage anyone to go read this story, about a little warrior who was outbid on an item, and rage quit the guild. Plenty of proof of no wrong doing by anyone in our guild.

Here you guys go, case closed. Thanks for your time. Also, Haesting, it's not to come off scummy to ask, we're a very understanding guild with a very close player base. Some people care too much about loot, like Majstor, and this is exactly why people like that don't fit in, in Breakthrough.

Read my post please. Also, if you update peoples DKP it'll show it in the logs as an award, so you can't just secretly give people DKP. Dunkz isn't even worth responding to, legit spastic.

Really dude? Is this post even necessary? We helped you out a bunch, you got outbid on an item and lost, so you rage quit the guild. Like someone above had said, when you're getting spammed bids by 15+ people it gets a little hectic, especially when someone says 'All in' rather than a solid number, it takes a moment to get a hold of all of the bids. Larauna didn't get this because he is an officer, he got this because he outbid you, and that's how DKP works. To everyone else, yes we have a feral druid, who cares, a lot of guilds use one, this content is not hard. I apologize if you feel cheated, but you got outbid, and Roflkopterr has screenshots to prove it that Larauna said 'All in'. So let me clear this up really quick: 360 is greater than 280, correct? If it was a true 'ninja' wouldn't it have gone to the bidder behind you, that Roflkopterr asked you for understanding in the situation for (Arvyn)? It went to a completely different person, that bid before you from my understanding, a higher number. Tell me how this is a ninja - I'll wait. Anyways, it's Vanilla, don't be so loot greedy, anyone would be happy to get six pieces of loot (plus crafted) in five weeks.

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