aristotheron

Wow you are really mad that I nailed you down with the "With them, the Vanilla experience isn't for fun, it's for a sick nostalgia that gives them false validation for their life failures. It exists to be their "safe space" where they have status that they failed to achieve in real life." statement. I come with rationale thought, you come with brainless troll language. Yet more example of the word you like to use to feel "smart" but have no idea what it means.

Okay. Why do you just want to have an exchange of meaningless comments with no rationale behind them? If that's the reason, why do you think that's what ensures the most success? What is this based on? Because I already laid out an argument about why the current plan will achieve the opposite. Treating newcomers like second class citizens is not a good way to get them to stick around and is not a good way to keep the server community strong for a long time.

I don't think you understand what irony means. You people are calling everyone who wants a fresh server "entitled", but you think you are entitled to have your old character back at the expense of everyone else. That is an example of irony. I have no guess as to what you perceived as ironic in my argument.

If you were literate, you would see this argument is about the health of the community overall. TRY ONE MORE TIME: By deprioritizing the fresh server, you are deprioritizing newcomers and the stability of the community. You are enforcing that the old players should be superior to the new players forever, which I believe is the entire point for you. New players who are excited to start playing will not have the same opportunities to make their mark on the server. They will have to follow the lead of the already established people and not have the chance to carve their own way through the content. "Old server first" ensures that new players will not be able to compete with old players and that they will not have the same incentives to plant roots into our community. It kills the leveling hype. It creates an unnatural situation where players will be coming back with their same character but totally different guilds. It creates technical challenges of having too much content to provide support for all at once. It's just a bad idea that doesn't make any sense. do you have any response to that besides "ALSIDJFALSEJOASJOI STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME"?

So, you have no argument then? Thanks for reading my entire post though.

You say that like you are going to be able to fill a raid in the first week all with people from your old guild

INB4 "omg another fresh first thread" I'm trying to start a rational conversation that analyzes the situation without people going on about their "omg" opinions

Who is entitled here? Are the devs entitled to do what they want with the community for no reason? The server is nothing without the community. Everyone's interests should be served, and the "old guard" should be smart enough to do what is right for the future health of the community despite the minor inconvenience of re-leveling. The real point is that the old players just want to feel superior to everyone else because they are failures in real life.