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Vanilla tanking/healing is more based on gear than spec. So a fury warrior can tank patch in t3 or a pally can heal with zero points in holy. As a druid as long as you have .4 or .5 off healing touch you can heal. You can go 11/31/9 and be able to do everything tank 5 mans tank/OT if needed in raids/dps if you gear right and bring consumes and shift properly/ and heal. http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#0zLV0oZxxMsfbktVL For Feral PvP you need crit 27% + which is easy with all blues and av ring/mace. Most people think druid pvp is trash because they're not itemized for it; without crit you can't do anything. Here's an example of the damage you can do in cat. Most videos are just some guy spamming moonfire/rejuv/ and rooting the target; that's NOT feral pvp. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPJpmq2zsY

Because most paladins are holy or in greens and they always expect to roll over them. So when they die it's infuriating to them especially undead rogues and mages lul xD

They can tank bosses but a warrior will be better and most guilds will have MTs but feral druids are great because they can OT/dps/heal. But it's certainly viable to OT stuff. Pros: -Lots of armor/hp and good threat -brings more damage than a prot warrior -can heal when needed Cons: -can't be def capped so it will be crit and be a burden on healer's mana -no real cooldowns besides frenzied regen Nef tank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7h2lC-UnwA

I would just play what you enjoy and there are plenty of guilds that need druids. As long as u have .4 or .5 in imp healing touch you will be able to heal well. Healing in vanilla is more about gear than anything. If there are fights where you need to heal you can always switch and if there are fights where you don't you can always do damage and give % crit so it works out great.

Depends what you wanna do. If you wanna tank 5 mans and be more tanky in PvP against rogues/warriors than swap to a 2h for casters theres: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxuoxZVGtIMzxo If you wanna go ret you can go 21/0/30 or 20/0/31 http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxuoxZZxfztrcqo or a mix like this focused on a 1h http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxubgoZVGtcc0x There's also this which is worse at healing but u get to use seal of command http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxzZVGtzc0xZx0xp I would just look at how you wanna play and try different stuff but paladins can heal fine in raids because they always get 1.5 FoL even with zero points in holy. I just use rank 1 FoL with + healing gear and you will conserve a lot of mana (80%+) but still do great healing and than when a fight comes to the end or something goes wrong you will still have plenty of mana to heal while other healers will be oom cause they over heal too much.

No you won't be able to do anything if you don't have reckoning or are ret. Paladins are easy targets for shammies, warlocks, mages and the other classes have easy match ups too. So if you go full holy you can maybe kill a super terrible player with green gear but besides that you have to go another build. However, no healer can really defend themselves in the world if they're an optimal raid healing build. That's why most people put enough points to heal and the rest for PvP. Paladins only really need 20 points in holy to heal effectively unlike other classes so they put the rest in prot or ret or a mix.

yeah looks good and u can heal pretty well with that too.

Now it's not great dps but I mean let's be honest here 'TOP' guilds means they're better than most. This means most are just average but will have no problem in MC/BWL etc. So joining most guilds and doing this kind of damage will be absolutely fine. Here's a video of some german guy with his guild on Nost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRIDIPWPE9c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwneivRDpjA Of course no "top" end guild would want one but again most are just average and will still clear the content and will take you if you beat other dps.

Where does hand of justice drop btw? Is it angerforge on nost currently in patch 1.8 or moved to emp?

Hmm yeah I guess it's not supposed to on wowhead the posts say its not supposed to. Well that's good I remember those fire rogues on 2014 :X. So one trinket should always be blackhand's breath for the crit the other one I guess just use whatever u can get or pvp trinket.

It does scale http://www.wow-one.com/forum/topic/63462-is-there-a-resource-that-shows-what-scales-with-spell-damage/ theloras"heart scales quite well with spell dmg and procs ALOT more than Elementals deck" "yes compared side by side, heart of wyrmthalak blows darkmoon card out of the water - especially on my Feral druid - with 1.0 attack speed, heart procs like a mofo"

Hand of rag no i don't think so but darkmoon maelstrom and heart of wrym from lbrs yes. Those two do scale from spell damage as well. Darkmoon has a low proc but the heart of wrym has a decent proc.

The reason everyone thinks druids are trash in vanilla is because they never itemize properly. They wear spell damage/healing/int gear and than complain. Feral druids must have 27%+ crit to do anything. Once you do you can literally kill people in seconds. Here's a video of a druid with good crit but it still is low https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPJpmq2zsY The reason crit is so important is obviously when you crit you do more damage but Blood Frenzy gives you an extra combo point from shred or ravage which we need to used ferocious bite. Without good crit you will only get 2 combo points from a ravage and shred and your auto attacks will also do a lot less damage. With good crit you will get 3-4+ combo points in an opener and than have a good chance for ferocious bite to crit. The other thing is that people spec 0/30/21 or some hybrid spec, but you NEED omen of clarity and leader of the pack. 11/31/5 + 4 extra points. The last mistake people make is the opener, they try to pounce but you're not a rogue so you only get 1 combo point and no follow up stun-lock; always open with ravage even on plate. Getting the gear is also very easy just get shadow craft and crit gear like eye of rend unstoppable force etc. In blue gear and AV epics you will be itemized very well unlike other classes.

Ferals can't do anything without crit, if you have like 15-20% crit you will struggle to 1v1 but once u get 27-30% u will kill people in seconds. Imagine playing a seal of fate rogue with 20% crit and no improved backstab; it would be awful. Ferals have to crit to generate combo points to ferocious bite and go into bear form when needed. Just go on an instant 60 server and make a feral druid and get 6/8 shadow craft and the rest crit gear (2% crit mace, crit/agi ring etc). You will have something like 27% crit 950 ish AP with mark of the wild. You will see how good it is with crit. We have to crit for Blood Frenzy to give us combo points so we can used ferocious bite with 3-4+ combo points. Now there might be times when you may get no crits on an opener but with almost 1/3 a chance to crit you will eventually get it and your auto-attacks will crit a lot as well at 1.00 speed. Additionally when you go into bear form you will keep that crit and your mauls will do 600-1k+ depending on plate or cloth when they crit and that's a lot while taking less damage. The good thing about this is that you can obtain very good stats in just blues and AV 2h mace/ring. With enchants like 25 agility you can get close to 30% crit and 1k+ attack power. But yeah without the right itemization it's very very hard. Here's an example of a druid with good crit; yeah it's not the best player but you can see how powerful it can be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PPJpmq2zsY

The issue with going soul link is you really need those early points in aff for leveling. Soul link is great for PvP but for leveling you still need to kill mobs so points in imp corruption and spell hit to affliction are super important plus life tap or drain soul regen. So if you respec at 40 you will lose those leveling talents till 50 which will just make you level slower. I lvl'd as SM/Ruin starting with aff and it was super fast leveling plus curse of exhaustion is really nice. The other thing is you can just avoid horde and try to stay near ally that's prolly the best strategy.