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Of course killerduki, if you have to say that "paladins can maintank" you also have to say that raidlogs are complete nonsense. One cannot go with the other, otherwise there would have been a proof that you where maintanking in any reasoable way. So we got 1.) Killerduki saying that Paladins can maintank every Boss encounter in the game 2.) No Raidlogs whatsoever because "Raidlogs is Garbage" 3.) Some videos showing our golden hero dancing around random instance trash and selected bosses. Which sums up to this whole discussion being completely pointless. Im sure paladins can tank some bosses maybe even whole mc/bwl raids if the guild is willing to take comprises. There is just no benefit in it, other than the gimmick part which gets old way to fast. And btw you have insulted me already 3 times personally in this thread, whereas all i said was "paladins can't maintank" and "prot paladins bring nothing to the raid". So excuse my words Mr Crapadin.

Talking about "analyzing" post a Raidlog of your Paladin Maintanking any Raid higher than MC in sub 40 minutes please. Then we are talking about real tanking. Taunt mechanics are in the game for a reason. If palas can "outplay" them this has to be fixed obviously. No logs = not real.

Sorry Killerduki im not even going through the effort of quoting all this. But it comes basically down to "some crap about the titanic" .. "arms warriors" .. "warriors are ragestarved and can't hold aggro".. "oh wait there are like 100 raids per week on this server all tanked by warriors.. this can only mean that all of them are complete idiots and don't know how to play the game right". Just imagine your typcial xyz run: .. "oh we need taunts on this fight.. Duki go to the healers and heal and shit .. but whatever you do.. dont use any mana, because we want to pull trash right after the boss fight" .. "so this boss, duki can tank, bring our ARMS warriors to spam sunder armor because this guy specced into arms and isnt doing any raid relevant dps anyways." .. "this boss needs to be interrupted.. but duki can't do it.. let our top rogue/warrior do it .. because rage/energy grows on trees and has no impact on dps" .. "..so we are at maexxna, duki wants to tank it. He has no real cd's to survive webspray for 8secs. So we need our paladins lay on hands on duki to have any chance of survival. Ah nvm duki go to the healers .. but whatever you do.. dont use any mana" .. ".. guys this is kazzak .. whatever you do dont go under 50% mana.. why did the tank just explode?" .. "guys we need to optimize our debuff slots. so no useless debuffs on boss fights please.. why are there 2 judgements on the boss? right duki needs those to not run out of mana in 10 secs" .. "guys we are at the suppression room now its dukis time to shine. but we cant really run up to the first corner because duki can only use consectration every so often. if you ever get aggro just run back to dukis consecration and you are golden.. Can the rogues disabling the pillars please come back to dukis consecration?" ... "can we have another innervate on duki please?" .. "guys we need to drop a tank for this run to break our old record. We have lots of fury warriors and a druid who can do the offtanking and still do awesome dps/healing. Duki you have some healgear right?" .. "guys this boss will enrage/do a crapload of danage under xx%. We need a improved lay on hands on the main tank. Duki are you still there?" .. "guys this is nefarian. We need at least 4 fear wards on duki to survive this. Good thing we can't use our fear wards on our rogues. They would totally rock the meters. Anyone wants to reroll dwarven priest? " .. "Oh crap, xyzs pet pulled again. Anyone with a free aoe taunt?" .. "There is a add in the healers group killing them one by one. Duki are you still in Tank gear?" Prot Paladins make good instance tanks but have no room in any half decent raid setup. Shamans could also tank Onyxia back then, did you ever try that?

Hello, trying to read into the lua code it looks as if lazyscript is relying upon Mobinfo2 addon for hp values: if (not MobHealth_GetTargetCurHP) then if (not sayNothing) then lazyScript.p(MOBINFO2_NOT_INSTALLED) end return nil end Looks like an interesting addon though

What rage starvation? It only affects warriors who don't know how to gear properly for a boss fight. Every half decent prot warrior will have proper tps, resi and tier/def gear. That being said, a prot pally literally brings nothing to the table that a heal pally can't bring. I see only drawbacks: immobile, no fear protection, no useful cds, mana drain, no guaranteed cb immunity, no taunts, sub par gear progression, no interrupts, dps relevant debuffs have to applied by other tanks/warriors, simulated tps is lower than proper warrior tps builds, silence affinity, lower healthpools, no disarms... I know that some weird spellpower/proc specs can work wonders, so far all of them have been fixed though :D All I am saying is, a prot pally will be able to tank certain encounters, but never be a maintank. MIght as well give that prot pally a "night fall" to do something useful the rest of the time.

Cannot agree more with you. Maexxna and Twins are two of the hardest hitting encounters in the game. Im 100% certain a Pally and a Feral will be able to tank them under optimal conditions. The thing is though, in "modern" vanilla raiding you are jumping with full world buffs from one boss to the next (often completely disabling their main mechanics and outdsping the whole encounter due to world buffs). Why would a raidlead bring a prot pally who can only tank some encounters when you can have warriors doing them all? There is not a single bossfight in vanilla wow that cannot be tanked maintanked by a warrior. The whole its interesting because noone is doing it thing gets old pretty fast. Especially if you have to live with comprises. @DPS: the deep fury/prot spec from your patchwork video works wonders when fighting vael. Almost double the tps of a traditional prot warrior (due to flurry and enrage) on that fight :)

Especially if you consider that a feral druid would make a better off tank: - Can easily hit the armor cap - Brings an awesome group buff - Battlerez / Innervate - Has higher rage gen / tps than prot warriors - Def cooldowns - CC immunities

Guys, can't we agree that besides tanking aoe trash paladin tanks are a liability (as in consuming raid relevant debuff slots, no taunts, non reliable crushing blow mitigation, slowing down raid progression due to mana breaks, no spec specific cooldowns to react properly to high inbound damage situations)? Sure thing, they could tank most of the bosses without taunt rotations, but with todays raids being all about optimizing run times and dps I would not see that working in any efficient way.

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SInce a PVP Realmpool will not be possible due to progression differences, Im all for speeding up the progression towards AQ release for darrowshire and a possible merger 1-2 months after that. Darrowshire guilds on the alliance are mainly raidlogging / equipping twinks through mc, bwl, ony and zg currently. Top raiders have already prepared their raid mats for a AQ. Horde guilds are falling apart left and right due to the player influx. The factio ratio is getting worse every day. PVP is as good as dead However, - people on darrowshire deliberately joined a PVE server, not everyone here will enjoy world pvp - not everyone has seen nef dead, has the gear he/she desires - AQ content back then was making players/guilds quit. It did on other private servers and will also do on darrowshire. - a merger will therefore lead to even more loss in the playerbase and accelerate the problem. There is no single good solution to this. The player base of both realms will further decrease. The realms will eventually die off forcing their playerbase to start anew at the Elysium realm or leaving the whole project/game behind. I guess the only solution will be forcing a migration of Darrowshires/Anathemas population towards Elysium (including gear downgrades) at a later point.

Makes me kinda sad to see some of you guys leave. I guess with the recent hype around tbc servers and summer time realm pop took a certain hit. Im currently in a well organized and healthy alliance guild with enough things to do to keep me playing 2-3hours per day. The horde side of this server is rather concerning though. Faction ratio is currently at its worst point in history, pvp feels kinda empty. World boss competition is non existent anymore. Well I hope to see some of you guys on the next content patches and maybe future battlegrounds (I never was that big of a pvp crack but enjoyed those battlegrounds against the horde pvp gurus quite a bit).

agreed all lvl 60 instances and ubrs should be doable as fury tank. however when tanking against t2+ equipped rogues/warriors or warlocks expect to not keep up with their immense threat per second output. it usually helps to mark skull and put one sunder armor up and work on the rest of the pack. on boss fights expect to lose aggro after a few seconds. always hovering with one finger above your taunt key. rage generation is just not the same as it was on nostalrius back then. when tanking with a raid equipped healer consider swapping out defense gear for threat per second items. tanking against guildmates is usually the hardest thing, whereas tanking for random groups is more relaxed. the usual 17/34 fury dps build works pretty good for tanking, prime dps and pvp. you might consider swapping one odd talent point from improved battleshout into piercing howl (very good for pvp and also for keeping together trash packs while tanking). also consider getting a good damage reflect set and the apropriate use of threat reducing buffs.

Hello, my account was completly emptied (all my epics/blues have probably been sold and the gold has been sent away). All of it is gone. I changed my password after hearing that the account database of a private server where I used to play has been hacked (a week or so ago). The accountnames and passwords where also different both private servers (but only slight iterations from each other). I used to download addons from various sites and used a tool from this site (https://legacy-logs.com/Contribute/) to start the wow client and upload raid and character information to their database. I already scanned my whole system drive with 3 different antivirus tools. No viruses where found. I know the terms of service state that everyone is responseable for his account security and that nothing will be done by gms. Before I end my journey on your servers i just wanted to ask you guys what the possible reason for my accountdata being leaked could have been. Thanks in advance, wurzlsepp (https://legacy-logs.com/Vanilla/Armory/Nostalrius PvE/Wurzlsepp/0)

bump. a short yes/no answer would be all im asking for :D

another thing came to my mind: deleting my account and allowing me to reuse the token generated on the original nost server is also not a possibility?

sorry microdots, nothing personal. Im just pretty frustrated. I knew that the accountdatabase of the other server has been hacked. i had a different accountname (they where not a even a reference to my characters). I even had different passwords (only slight alterations though). i cant explain how they got my accountdata. So i already quit my guild and said goodbyte to them.

great all I get is copy & paste

going to replace my Devilsaur Leggings and Devilsaur Gauntlets bc i got some cheap Edgemaster's Handguards. What are the easiest achievable leg items on the PVE Server (pre BWL)? Found these: Marshal's Plate Legguards pretty hard to get (im rank 6 currently) Sentinel's Plate Legguards are a loooong shot away (got half friendly rep with my homies at warsong) Leggionaire's Plate Leggings 1 week away from getting them at rank 7 (maybe even want to combine them with the chestpiece?) Titanic Leggings will not be available in a loooong time Also got these lying around: Legplates of Valor, Legplates of Might, Blademasters Leggings

Better late then never: when did the change in Set Bonus happen: current version on nost pve: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=16431 version with improved stats and better bonus: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?item=23301

thx for the answer taurior. i got these cloudkeeper legplates for 400g now :) Sadly i already did in dreams quest already and took the armor with defense on it :(

Ah forgot, currently sitting at 10% hit rating with devilsaur set / or 8% without the set (https://legacy-logs.com/Vanilla/Armory/Nostalrius PvE/Wurzlsepp/0).