UrbanNoodles

LOL. No. It wasn't. Nice cop out for being a dick to a light hearted joke post though. Take a good long look at the time stamp of our posts and my edit when they come up and hang your head in shame, mate. Looks like you have the "Become toxic" part of my list down already, so you are already ahead of the curve. Grats!

The communities perception is reflected in the server population, for the private server in question. I don't care about other servers. Nost PvP is basically even in population. From peak hours to dry times it is always ~2-5% off. If most people thought Horde had an edge when it came to PvP racials, the ratio would show a larger divide than just the 2-5% it has currently. The community doesn't unanimously say go Horde for racials. The vast majority say go with what you like. The ones that say go Horde for racials are headbutting the same number of people that say go Alliance for Paladins. I personally say go with what you like and pick up Engineering. I noted your point in my reply and pointed out that the people that ask about racials as a deciding factor are more likely to be new to either the game or vanilla itself. Hell I even remember a time when I asked those very questions myself a few months before TBC came out. Then I hit 60 on an Orc Warlock, after having people claim racials were a thing to take seriously and that I should avoid going up against WotF by going Horde, and after some time PvPing I came to the conclusion that I should have gone Gnome because A) racials don't mean anywhere near as much as they were hyped, and B) Gnomes have a more annoying /Train sound for me to spam when killing people. Which has led to a dusty Orc Warlock weeping in my character select screen while I have a better time on my Gnome Warlock instead. Point is: only newbies pick solely for racials. Sometimes they regret it at 60 but stick with it because it took too long to get there. Others, like me, do what Obama never could: Make change happen. The only reason people ask about racials in the first place is because of that shit storm period when Every Man for Himself allowed humans to wear a second burst trinket. Every thread about "Which racial is best so I can AFK pummel 5 people at once like in retail" has people saying Undead for WotF. People think that Vanilla WotF is like the Horde version of the broken EMfH, which it isn't. Not many classes rely on Fear as their main CC. Warriors have stuns and Priests don't PvP alone. Warlocks have 2 ways around WotF so with skill and/or certain trinkets/consumables they can get through that 5 second duration like butter. Gear and consumables easily out preform any racial on the list. Which leads me to say that I feel like people that ask about racials are just unaware that professions had a larger role in Vanilla. Racials don't have shit on crafting professions. BG Queue time is about peak hours, days, and who you queue with if not alone. I've had many instant queues as Horde and many hour long queues as Alliance. World PvP is the same for both sides. There are zerg town smashers, ganksquads, and solo spankstars out there on both sides at all times. As to the last bit, you have it correct in the first sentence: racials don't that matter. Racials don't impact anything other than perfect scenario 1v1s vs the race your activatable(or RNG Orc stun resistance proc) racial counters. Perfect scenario being you are both evenly skilled and geared and are both playing like your dicks were touched by Zeus himself. As I stated in my original reply, you will not see too many 1v1s in your time PvPing outside of duels, unless you're a rogue - but that won't guarantee you a win even against a Warlock. Most pvp involves a group, whether its a premade or a WPvP ganksquad. If you join a guild you are likely up for their group activities, even if its just with one other person. Groups rely more on eachother than their individual racials. Oh that Undead popped WotF? Lock him out with a stun or focus him down if the situation calls for it. TLDR: Racials don't mean much in PvP, certainly not at all if your skill level isn't up to snuff with your opponent. Premades look at classes/specs/skill level/gear, not racials. PvP guilds don't recruit because you have a certain racial. World PvP is more about gear, skill, and who has more useful consumables. BG queue times are peak based.

It looks like a red X in the top right.

Nost PvP is 48:52 A:H. I expect to see Elysium PvP to reflect that near prefect balance, seeing as how the results of that poll are strangely identical to Nost PvPs population ratio atm.

This is a PvP server. The population is basically 50/50. This would imply the communities perception seems to feel actual facts and numbers mean more than racials. If everyone believed one side was more PvP oriented than the other due to racials, it would not be nearly as balanced as it is. Look at retail before the Every Man for Himself nerf. Servers that used to be balanced or leaning Horde, almost immediately flipped to 60%+ being alliance. Arena leaderboards were full of nothing but Humans for a long time. But that isn't the case here and this server has been up for long enough for that issue to be obvious by now if it were a thing. You will see just as many PvP dedicated Alliance as Horde on this server. The Alliance may just be better geared sooner than the Horde because of Paladins being so amazingly helpful in raids. If you want to kill another player on this server, being either side will grant you that opportunity just as well as the other. And I'm sorry but he isn't asking about the communities perception. He is breaking down racials and questioning if one side is more PvP or PvE oriented than the other based on racials. My first post is for the OP to read to help add to the class racial mathematics he was doing by telling him to factor in Shamans, Paladins, and solo/group play since these things outweigh racials by a longshot. Guilds are a very big factor for PvP and both sides have amazing guilds for PvP and PvE. Join one and you will dominate with them and won't notice racials nearly as much as newbies ask about them. Even if you are a solo player you won't see racials as being a huge deal either. If you are skilled you can down anyone. If you are suffering from the Dunning–Kruger effect, which a lot of people do when it comes to video games, then that's still not the racials fault. If you look at threads asking about racials you will notice the people asking what faction and race they should be are new to the game, or at least to vanilla. Everyone else already knows racials are not the key factor in PvP. They are just nice additions to suit your playstyle. A good player will spank you pink regardless of what race you choose. "But WotF is fantastic at breaking fears and such!!!" Yes WotF is an arguably perfect counter to Alliance Warlocks. But believe it or not, Warlocks have the means to counter WotF since it only lasts 5 seconds, and wIth a 2 minute cooldown too. It doesn't matter if you actually kill the Warlock with it because guess that lock has a Soul Stone on, as they always do. They will just instantly rez while you still have dots on you and proceed to Mortal Coil>pop a cd and instantly summon a Succubus>Seduce>kill you. That and if there is a Paladin anywhere near that Warlock... well tough luck, Horde. If you think you will see nothing but perfect scenario 1v1s in Vanilla PvP then you are mistaken. You see more 2+ group play than not. Skill and numbers out weigh racials. TLDR: Racials don't matter that much in PvP, and the PvP servers population(which is directly effected by the communities perception) shows that.

Assuming makes an ass out of u and me. Implying isn't a good strategy of communication. Either way, as for the "Log in faster than everyone else" bit, read step 3.

1. Log in. 2. Choose Elysium PvP. 3. Sit in queue like every other person will no matter what they did. 4. Become toxic, pissed, and tired after 5 hours of being level 2. 5. Log out. 6. Choose Nost PvP. 7. Pretend you weren't one of the thousands of idiots who wasted a day watching people kill their level 2 pig spawn.

Warning! Personal opinions ahead: One can't simply say Horde or Alliance is more PvP or PvE oriented. There are a few sub divisions to consider. Such as solo PvP/PvE, group PvP/PvE, what class you are playing and its counters/usefulness in raids, shamans, and paladins. To answer the question though: Depends. Are you playing a class that uses charms, fears, or sleeps? Are you a solo PvPer? If the answer is yes, you should be Horde. I am a solo PvPer. I main a Warlock and I prefer fighting Paladins than Undead Rogues/Warriors. At least it will end with the paladin getting bored and walking away instead of you just being obliterated in seconds with no way of getting away. Also, since I am a solo PvPer, I would rather fight a Paladin than a Shaman. Shamans have a knack for melting faces. Though if you have a group you play with, even if it is just one other person, then it doesn't matter if you roll Alliance or Horde. Coordination beats everything. Alliance is best if you do group PvP. Gnomes boost to int is fantastic. Dwarves Stoneform is amazing. Even Humans +5 to maces and swords is great for rogues and warriors, their stealth detection is really helpful also. Paladins are heavenly in groups. Horde is best in solo PvP. Because they don't have Paladins. TLDR: It doesn't fucking matter.

Sorry if i spelled your name wrong. I am bad at remembering names. Why did you silence me? Your whisper was "Silenced for 60 min for chat violation" but you didn't say what it was I said so I could properly avoid it in the future. Could you tell me what exactly it was I said that was wrong? I was silenced right after telling people to watch what they say or they will get silenced. Is it a bannable offence to warn people of certain behaviors? Can you link me to the rules or tell me what i did wrong? This is a serious question. Or did I get silenced for taking part in barrens chat. If so... it's tradition, man. If this is the case, why ban me before Yaoyaodi??? Thank you for your reply, if at all.

Well, I want to be a Warlock. Sooooo, I have to be horde.