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Good idea. Also from reddit:

I wonder if this solution approach receives any consideration amongst the current team. And if not, what their proposed solution to the population gaps between realms looks like.

I'm not withholding donations and I'm not actively playing anymore. I've stated all the reasons for that in this thread. My last post wasn't supposed to be some sort of blackmailing. It's rather that I would be really thankful if they would address the issues at hand, and therefore donate.

I would donate too as soon as I would be able to play my main again, which is stuck on Elysium right now. And I agree, it's just not fun anymore and nowhere near being blizzlike.

Si. I'm really curious if they ever considered high pop => low pop transfers. The team has somehow adapted to the issue by making Anathema the default destination for Zeth'Kur transfers or marking Anathema as the "Recommended" realm. And many people responsible for the subpar decision making concerning Zeth'Kur are no longer involved in the project. Let's see how they handle the situation this time. Hopefully not just sitting it out again until it's too late.

Definitely. With Elysium PvP having lag and crash issues at 7000+ concurrent players (realm is down again while I'm typing this), some people who ended on Elysium PvP just not being fans of the Nostlike mega realms, people wanting to do their professions or auction house affairs without total inflation, TBC being announced to arrive on Anathema first, or simply the wish of some core guilds for more content. There currently is a good range of reasons, why people might transfer from Elysium => Anathema. Any amount higher than 750 players would catapult Anathema back closer to blizzlike levels. This fresh population growth could motivate a lot of people to rediscover their old Anathema toons. Or - regarding the oncoming TBC release - provoke a good amount of fresh starters. At least it's worth a try. _____ I mean, I really couldn't understand why they didn't allow transfers from Elysium => Zeth'Kur, back when the latter launched. To me it was crystal clear that all the enduring core players and guilds already have started on Elysium, were quite progressed and wouldn't just re-roll on Zeth'Kur. Zeth on the other hand was a melting pot for hype opportunists and casual players. It was pretty much inevitable that the population would drop in the long run. Still the team has been adamant to stick to their zero tolerance policy against transfers. Please Elysium Project, look at the mistakes that have been done and reconsider your policy.

1. Speak for yourself, please. 2. 1,5k concurrent players = empty? I've stopped actively playing on Elysium Project because I'm really not a fan of the non blizz-like, overcrowded population on Elysium PvP. And my main is stuck there due to the teram's zero-tolerance policy concerning transfers. If Elysium Project decides to merge Anathema PvP with Elysium PvP, me and my 4 LAN-party friends will most likely stop playing, too. I absolutely dislike this new "Nostlike" mentality, that every realm under 10k players is a dead realm and not worth playing on. Back in my days on retail classic, I've been playing on a "Medium" server. Which means 2k concurrent players. And this game blew my mind. Never did the thought cross my mind, that the world had been empty or the game unplayable. No, it was quite the contrary. It was the perfect balance between world PvE balance and the solo RPG and immersion experience. As well as having more than enough people around, constantly meeting new people and having multiple people online in your friends list. And we were ready to help out each other and even switch zones to quest together. Because we were dependent on each other. And this lead to forming friendships. So, I can only repeat my concern: Please let people lower the server stress on Elysium and help out with stabilizing Anathema's population, if they so choose. I would definitely make use of such an opportunity. Yes to high-pop => low-pop realm transfers.

Yes please, give us one-way Elysium => Anathema transfers! Let people lower the server stress on Elysium and help out with stabilizing Anathema's population. The only reason I'm not actively playing on Elysium Project anymore is because my main is stuck on Elysium, and I actually dislike the non-blizzlike, overcrowded population. I would really love to join the realm where my LAN-party twink and friends are located on, namely Anathema. To play my beloved Tauren Shaman main again. And to contribute towards increasing Anathema's population count to more blizz-like levels. But as of now - and with the teams "zero tolerance policy" against transfers. I simply can't.

I would love to transfer my main from Elysium (stopped playing due to overcrowded pop) to Anathema and help with the population. Sadly the team has a zero tolerance policy when it comes to transfers. Anathema and Darrowshire might end up like Zeth'Kur eventually.

Will Elysium PvP ever feel not overcrowded in the future? I really enjoy the frequent World PvP with such a high population. But on the other hand you can really tell that the vanilla world was designed for only 2,5k players. And not over the fourfold. Not being alone for even 5 minutes, where you would fight for your survival and manage your supplies. Every inch of the world being full of people and corpses of NPC's, somewhat negating the feel of a vast and deadly world. Not actively building a group for elite mobs but instead going to the spawn and typing "Inv". But that's just my personal preference for immersion. Feel free to dissagree and to prefer the 10k population. ;) I'm here to ask the question whether this will get better with time. When people have spread more between zones and levels. Nostalrius had 9-11k people online at any given time IIRC. How was it over there? Thanks in advance!

Yeah. I was level 25 and in thousand needeles on wednesday. Wasn't any better there and I hated the stress that I had concerning the leveling. Not stopping, so the crowds wouldn't catch up and make everything worse. Took a break since then and am going to settle on Zeth in some days.

I thought it was crystal clear that if you want to sell an item instead if equipping it, you choose the golden coin symbol? I mean it's pretty obvious that everyone "needs" money. Doesn't change the fact that you're just doing it for the "greed". Guess some people will always stretch values & norms to their own advantage.

Had already /played 3 days on Ely PvP. Am going to re-roll regardless. Zeth'Kur doesn't only have a more blizzlike population, the players there also started more spread out regarding the time window. Mainly due to late Re-rollers and new players who didn't want a queue. In contrast to Ely PvP, where pretty much the entire 11k started on release day and are now crowding the same zones alongside. It will be a bit dull since I'm neither changing my faction nor class or profession. But Ely PvP is not what I'm looking for from a RPG and immersion standpoint.

Just a question: Will there be guaranteed no transfers between realms in the future? Because I would feel messed around if I reroll and they change their minds. Regards

Maybe I should. As long as people like you are getting triggered it's entertaining.

Oh look, it's the source of intellectual level.

Hurr durr.

I'm with you. Had I known that there will be a second server, I would have patiently waited for it. But it was an afterthought, still they're not considering transfers.

Very varied. On some levels I get so distracted by World PvP or just focuse on other things like professions, collecting flight points or the Shaman class quests. That I'm taking several hours on that level. Other levels just fly by, due to just doing questing. :)

Yeah, you're probably right. I wish I had known that Zeth'Kur is going to be released. But I'll just stay on Elysium and wait till the geographic player density is a little less over the top. :)

Where will they announce such donation wave?

Has the dev team stated any reason on why there won't be transfers? I guess they are waiting for the 5k queuers on Elysium PvP to slowly decide a reroll. But wouldn't it be more beneficial to just evenly spread the populations across both realms anyway? Not only in terms of queues, but also server performance, being over-/undercrowded, enabling friends of current players to freely choose the realm their mates are playing on. (Btw. I have 5 friends who haven't started playing yet due to the high queues. I don't think I'm alone in that scenario and that the pop's just evening out due to rerollers might be unrealistic) Personally I would immediately transfer my character to Zeth'Kur if I could. Not really considering rerolling since I've already spent 40 hours on my Ely PvP main. I get it, there are 2 problems with this: A) How do you handle existing character names? B) How do you handle players that had more time playing when it comes to server firsts etc.? I guess you could just put the disadvantage on transfering Elysium PvP players, since they would choose to transfer fully aware of the consequences. I.e.: A) If you transfer and your username is taken, you have to change it. B) You're excluding yourself from server first achievements and related stuff. What do you think? Regards :)

He didn't even ask for it..

Started with a harmless opinion, immediately escalated in stigmatizing non-sense. What is this place. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wat.