Divine88

See attached. Storslamm from Alliance abusing MC mechanics and running the person MCed out of the BG to incur a CD. Please ban.

Luckily that same post also pointed out - Essence of the game and I guess using something as intended isn't under the Essence of the game. Jesus you are stupid. You are seriously that concerned with this mechanic that it is this game breaking to your gameplay? You're the obvious personality type to use it and be that worried about it and still be so dense to not understand the correlation between what was intended. I feel bad for your teachers.

Now it becomes obvious why you are so biased towards the post. I've shown it is against the rules because it is abusing a mechanic in a way that it was not intended to be used. This is similar to pulling mobs up in UBRS, MCing off Zep, sitting on buildings in BG, jump climbing. All things that were in patch 1.12 but ruled against the server rules due to using a mechanic in a way it was not intended(Also not listed on the ToS). You are now claiming the BG CD from leaving a BG was intended for MC subjects? Funny thing is.....you actively sought out to post here. No one came at you with cry baby whispers. You decided to interject with all these claims which you can't even support. I was simply asking for any evidence as what the ruling was from a GM. You still can't provide any, I don't care either way, I just want the ruling from a GM. You obviously think you have that position. If you don't have any concrete evidence to add, shut the fuck up. It's pretty simple. I've already made an in-game ticket. I wanted to support the evidence and see what the protocol was. GM's do respond sometimes, if you weren't so dense and changing every situation to favor your opinion then you'd see that they have came in and settled a few disputes.

Once again, I'll wait for you to pull up some concrete evidence that every server has ruled this not an exploit. Also just wanted to point out for your slow learning ass is that just because a rule isn't listed, doesn't mean they haven't punished for it. See basically all rulings in the past.

I'm glad you speak for the GM's. How's that Dunning-Kreuger working out for you? It's okay, I know you'll have to look that up. You seem too invested.

I thought so. You came to this thread bitching about your opinion. Came here with baseless claims about it was used in vanilla and was officially never ruled as an exploit. You've made 0 connections about abusing the BG leave penalty. As I already said but have to obviously repeat for your dense ass is mage portals don't incur the BG penalty so wouldn't necessarily fall under abuse. I got owned in PvP by an MC helmet? What ever shall I do? Good choice since you can't find anything concrete to support anything your saying. You prove my point further. Good luck trying to find some other threads to shit up, you seem to have alot of time on your hands....too bad you can't use it to something more productive like finding those articles.

Glad to see you still have reading comprehension problems and you still can't grasp the general concept of using a mechanic of quitting to serve as griefing. I'm still waiting on that article...

There was a reason it was nerfed to this : Today, this thing has been nerfed to death. - It cannot be used in combat - It cannot be used on a target in combat - It lasts only 8 seconds against other players (it used to last up to 30 before BC) - You no longer get a pet action bar while controlling players, so you cannot do anything with them except have them follow you. All in all it is now a completely useless item now. 1.12 They were just overwelmed and didn't have time to sort all the bugs that weren't game breaking. I will tell you this, they didn't intend on people using it to walk people out of BG's and all the other shit it was used for. That's why it was nerfed and that's why people love it here. They want something that makes up for skill and was considered OP back in vanilla. I don't care about dropping someone off a cliff, portal to SW or ORG - none of those serve a penalty that was intended for something else.

Lol, it's not like I don't have the capability to level up engineering. I still think it's a terrible mechanic. I'm just asking for a ruling. I could say the same thing about you. It sounds like your just a crybaby because you use the mechanic or have friends who use it and you think it's game breaking for your min/maxing. And really? Find me a few articles about people MCing people out of BG's and that it was GM sanctioned? Let me guess you can't and just recycling what other people say.

uch behaviour is considered griefing which includes, but is not limited to, the following: I know reading comprehension is hard.

I guess abusing a penalty for a BG for people quitting doesn't go against the Essense of the Game of that mechanic being created for quitting.

However, behaviour that is considered to be contrary to the essence of the Game will be considered a violation of this agreement.

There is no ruling on it. You saying there is nothing in the rules forbidding it isn't true. The rules clearly state do not abuse mechanics. If you are abusing a penalty mechanic for quitting as a tactic for "griefing" on an already won premade, it contradicts the ToS. If you don't believe that, then obviously your not someone I give a shit to be talking to. Shit up someone elses thread.

Also, it is a fact the BG penalty was intended for people quitting, if you think otherwise.....I dont really know what to tell you.

Stop replying with adding nothing to the conversation. Go shit up someone elses thread.

Why is MC on Zep considered griefing then? Whats the difference? One you have to get a warlock to summon you (Not hard), the other you're disqualified from BG temporarily. It's an exploit because it's abusing a battleground CD that was supposed to be intended for people "quitting" and not someone mind controlling them out. My instance of BG was a literally joined an already started BG vs a premade. Logged in the BG, moved forward 5 feet, MCed and pulled out. It was okay on retail because lots of shit was okay and unattended to on retail and there is probably multiple rulings on this and most likely patched later because it was a mistake. Just because they didn't rule on it in classic doesn't mean it shouldn't be fixed. Serving a penalty for an MC cap is abuse.

It's an exploit and abusing the CD of a battleground and considered griefing. Where does it say its legal?

I guess you've never heard of a VPN. Although I do agree Multiboxing would be extremely hard.

Doesn't really matter in the long run. You'll be stuck in MC for the next couple months and have plenty of time to gear any character. Anyone reserving shit is trying to effectively make others work for his progress. Just because you ran an instance 20x and someone won the roll over you doesn't mean you deserve it more. It happens on both ends of the spectrum, at some point you're going to have to wait. The people who reserve shit are the same type of people who rage quit when they lose their favorite item in a DKP bid after waiting a month for it to drop. Instant gratification isn't the name of the game and everything comes with patience. Everyone needs upgrades at this point in the game and I constantly people reserving shit they don't necessarily need ASAP over certain classes.....Blackcrow? Dal Rends? The people that do this are the same ones that watched other people reserve items so they feel entitled to the item themselves. Even if you have a retard in your group, his time is somehow less valuable than yours? Lots of Dunning-Kruger going on here.

I guess it's better to stoop to the level of aids instead of disregarding it.

Screenshot came from top Guild on Horde GL. It also depends on what UI you are using. The fact that the character is actually for sale and seems like it was boosted, isn't too far fetched.

I'm curious to see what the average level is for both these servers, I've heard rumors its in the 30-40 range but just would like to see what level everyone is at?

https://forum.elysium-project.org/forum/351-ban-appeals/ Post a ban appeal and ask for the reason. They should get back to you within 24 hours on the reason. Depending on the reason, you can possibly get your account unbanned within a few days if you did not violate ToS.

Yeah, I assumed that Zeth was probably a little bit behind. I'm 55 on Elysium and just wanted to ballpark where most people were at. I'm probably ahead of the curve by a little bit but seems quite a few people are already 40+

You might want to check your account. Once I enabled the 2FA and reposted with the GM, it took around 24 hours but once I went back to check my account last night, I was able to log in and my account was unbanned. Just have patience and they should unban you. Always smart to just check your account every so often.