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Quote me something, ELI5. Because, as far as I know, you reach 99% hit on lvl 60 enemies with 4% bonus hit. Anything above that, does literally nothing for you, as far as lvl 60 enemies go. Spell penetration will, but hit won't help with partial resists / spells breaking earlier or whatever. I can only quote wowwiki since that's all the info I can find on it, maybe I misremember from EJ forums or warlock's den. But ofc, if you find a more reliable source and quote me how it works rather than having wild theories, enlighten me. Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks

Evidence that a 2% gain on a drain life is more than nothing? What kind of evidence do you need? 100+2 is better than 100+0??????? A this point you're just trolling me, so I'll go ahead and ignore w/e you have to say on this subject.

2% hit does literally nothing whereas 2% improved drain life does something is my point, it's seriously laughable that you can't understand that those 2% hit are literally wasted. It's 0>almost 0 is what you're saying. I'm saying 0<almost 0. Math so hard. Hit doesn't help with that. Or well, it shouldn't. Idk how they mathed everything out on this server. Only spell penetration helps with spell resistance/early breakage and the likes, given you've reached the hit cap, which is 4% for pvp.

In pvp? Please elaborate how going over 99% hit chance works

Seriously dude, go ahead and take 0 gain over however marginal gain you can get, it's dumb. How hard is it to do that math? nothing < something ALL DAY EVERY DAY

2% more drain or nothing is what it comes down to, in terms of pvp. Feel free to take nothing.

No point taking a 3rd point in suppression, you only need 4 hit in pvp

What math, what bloodvine logic?? I am mostly trying to give perspective to an otherwise very one-sided bunch of opinions. In answer to your weird reasoning: 1. Over 6800 mana raidbuffed with Bloodvine is quite hard to reach even with full consumables. 2. The notion that you would be grouped with a shaman is a little bit silly if not extremely laughable because: Windfury goes to melee groups, Mana tide goes to healer groups. 3. BoW gives you about a shadow bolt/min. About the fights where you just stand still and cast: Ebonroc, Flamegor, Nef p2, Rag, Huhuran, Patchwerk, Geddon, there are probably a good bunch I forgot about.

I'm going to list the pros for both: Pro Bloodvine 5/5: 4 more spell hit Pro Doomcaller 5/5: 30 spell pen, 15% cheaper SB, 20 more spell damage, 22 more int (2% more crit if you're not a tailor) Once you get 10ish hit w/o bloodvine, I would gladly drop it for full Doomcaller. There are plenty fights that last longer than 15-17 shadowbolts. (calculated for an AVG of 5700-6800 mana raidbuffed with bloodvine)

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