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Think about the people who left Elysium back then with their guilds and created the same guild on Zeth Kur then. This will be a huge problem as I know a lot guilds who did that.

That is something I love to read. Thank you.

I don't want to get insulted here. And to everybody else. That's exactly the reason im posting with a second account. Back to topic please.

Sadly this does not stop my guild falling apart.

I don't want to harm anyone as I mentioned in my thread but how could I share my feelings if not in the forums. I've tried to be as neutral as possible in that regard. Im not here to dig deeper, I want a discussion so we can find a solution. In my opinion the solution is to give the playerbase a long-term goal. It's hard to explain because most of it is just.. feelings and thoughts.

You really should calm down. I will send you a link via PM so you can see yourself. And no. I dont bring back drama with this thread, I'm just sharing my opinion and fears.

I wont bring the drama back into this forums. Just open the reddit and read a little bit.

I just dont want to get shitstormed here.

Interesting Idea. Would the progressive realm progress trough Vanilla only?

Many people I'm talking to are leaving because of all the shit happens. As I mentioned before by far not all of them though. I know that it's hard but not impossible in my opinion. A cooperation in that regard would be good I guess. Running such a huge server isnt easy and never will be.

Hello Dear Community and Elysium Team, before I start I want to make some things clear. 1. I'm not the usual flamer on this forums. In fact I'm an old Nostalrius player who freaked out when I heard that Elysium will provide us a server with our old toons. 2. I've created a new account so I won't get flamed on my main forum account (I'm very active on the forums). 3. I just want the best for the Elysium Staff and us. I don't want to harm anyone in any way. If you're not into discussions and if you can not stand other peoples opinions, please don't waste our time. Ok so let's get started. Elysium provides us a good running vanilla server. The stability is far over average and the population is huge. Sadly the last months were quite hard for the Staff. Rumors, Drama and facts made a lot people leaving the server and with that guilds broke apart and with that more people left. Sure I know, a huge impact on the decreasing population is clearly the fact that the hype is over but what I said before is still real. People lost faith in the Staff. I lost faith in the staff. Though I know there are people working on the servers who are amazing. They're spending their freetime so we can have a better one with the game we love. That is something I cant apreciate enough - Thanks! It must be hard for them to keep up the work on a server that's reputation got injured so hard. Thanks that you still do. But still - even if I consider what I said before - I lost faith somehow. Things became so freaking shady. What you read on this forums is the opposite of what you read on the reddit. You don't know what you should believe and what not. When Nostalrius wanted their code back for example. How could the staff think we can believe what they are saying regarding their own core they developed next to the current one. There is a lot more as you all know but I don't want this shitfest come back to our forums. What I want to say is that I was a supporter of Nostalrius and I was a supporter of elysium. I've donated, I've followed every step and I like to inform myself on whats going on. I still do. And with all that stuff that happened I can not ignore the impact it has on the playerbase. Why? Because I'm the leader of a big guild on one of the realms here and my Officers and I are fighting against something we can not longer stand. Our members are leaving the servers because they feel the same way I do. We have to merge with other guilds to keep things going and as everybody who ever experienced a merge knows - this is shit! A (guild)merge almost never works out. Especially if you are forced to do it - not because you wanted to do it. That's the point for me why I cant just say "Fuck it I leave as well". I have my guild here and the people I became friends with trough the last months. It's the guild why I'm still here. Some may say it's my problem and they may be right, BUT I'm pretty sure I'm not the only leader on elysium who's guild suffered from all this bullshit that happened. I wish the staff knows that and If not that they will react to that. The shady things that happened are bullshit, but if they would admit what happens in public things would'nt go crazy. Because it's the freaking rumors. People can not ignore stuff like "gold selling, account selling" and all that. You guys came to a point - and I'm pretty sure that it's not only my feelings - where the community is playing here because there is no real alternative. So what could you guys do to get out of that? The answer is easy, but the solution itself is not. Give the people hope for the future of the server. How? I don't know. That's what I mean... The solution itself is freaking hard. Even if I know you guys are on your limits already, maybe try to give us hope for Burning Crusade. All the LGN Stuff that forced us to believe it will never happen on elysium is bullshit. You could try to get in contact with one of the other huge Burning Crusade projects to give the project a longterm goal. That's what we players need. Remember what you guys said: Respecting core values You may be wondering why Nostalrius chose Elysium to have the first priority with the software. This has largely been answered in the announcement from Nostalrius (http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=44550). To re-hash their points, both of our servers have many of the same moral values: Provide the players with the best server possible, Project born purely from a love of the game, An absolute refusal to profit from it. On behalf of the Elysium team, we cannot hope to fully express our gratitude for this opportunity. We promise the Nostalrius team and the community, that we will not let you down. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/22768-the-birth-of-legacy-nostalrius-returns/ Nostalrius handed us the torch, we have no intention of putting it out. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/32701-our-official-response-to-nostalrius-—-elysium-will-prevail/ I don't cry for Burning Crusade or so - don't get me wrong. It's just an idea. What I ask for is hope for the future.