Orcrageous

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Hudson, your concern is valid and your attention is appreciated. I *have* noted these threads are locked, not hidden. While such devolution into name-calling and vitriol is undesirable, locking a thread (it seems to me) necessarily prevents any activity on it and thus condemns it to quickly fall down the list and off of our radars- which is what ninjas want. Case-in-point: the thread linked above was locked within about 24 hours, or less. How soon will it fall off the first page and be effectively forgotten with little effective means for other players to find it in the future? Flaming happens all over, all the time. We should not suffer ninja looters to hide among us simply because some people make rude comments. There are alternatives. Removing those ugly comments instead of locking the threads is one, but perhaps too labor-intensive. Another approach could be a sub-forum devoted to these matters where players may state their complaints/warnings and present their evidence (such as the screenshot in the link above). Players may judge for themselves and any one thread need not remain open forever, so long as the thread can be easily located and retrieved. A collection of complaint threads that is searchable by character name would allow every player to check would-be group members for any history of bad conduct. Thanks for contributing to this discussion!

For background: https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/46230-ninja-horde-pre-warrior/ Recent threads alerting the community to ninja looters have been closed by one or more support representatives. Far from the quoted rationale that these threads serve solely as "witch hunts," they serve the important purposes of protecting players from ninja looting and discouraging such conduct through social stigmatization- which has proven time and again throughout history to be a powerful means of correcting behavior. Ninja looting was never sanctioned by Blizzard and we are not asking our admins to do so now. We merely ask that you do not stifle our attempts to warn our community of toxic players. Ninjas and others who behave badly rely on anonymity and the short memory of the collective community. Stifling communication provides fertile ground for their ilk. At around 4 months since launch, the Elysium community is young. Administrative decisions that stifle communication and prevent warning others of misconduct will have substantial negative impacts such as fostering an atmosphere of distrust that discourages cooperation and interaction. Admins - Please let us call out ninjas and other toxic players in our forums for the good of all. Players - Please continue to call out ninjas and other toxic players by all means available. It is appreciated by many. Elysium is an awesome place where I have met many great people. Let's keep it that way and continue to improve! Thanks.

For clarity, as told me to by several of my guild members who were in this raid: Naruur won the roll for Chromatic Carapace. Pre offered Naruur 500g for it. Naruur declined... and the rest you can see for yourself. Shameful conduct, Pre.