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Have you tried premading on horde? Only 1 out of 10 games are pug games. Plz don't talk about things you are clueless about.

Let's discuss the state of pvp on Elysium. The Elysium devs for some unknown reason refuse to update the pvp gear at the same time Nostalrius did, disregarding all the evidence suggesting otherwise. They are making retarded non blizzlike changes like lowering the respec cost to encourage pvp etc. Guess what, nobody wants to rank for dogshit r10 gear that is outshined by dungeon blues! What's up with GMs banning ppl from one of the only 2 EU/NA horde premades atm for supposedly afking in a Cadet turtlemade which refused to cap the flag and end the game? On the other hand, weeks before you had the honor farming studio guy Yantao ported to GM island for AFK scripting and the guy gets a warning and gets back to his old ways. What's up with with certain ppl having marks saved from 3+ weeks and turning 80 great honors and shit? Can someone explain how do some of the chinese rankers evolve from semi-competent players to backpedalling keyboard turning mouthbreathers in the span of 10-12 hours? Why do some of them evolve to decent english speakers during the night? How hard is it to monizor these things upon reporting? What's up with ppl on ZK staying online for 150+ hours and when being reported, GM shows up and says they are extremely dedicated to the project? I know you can't prove chinese account sharing since they all login from the same VPN, but just monitor the way the same character is being played over an x ammount of time and see the differences. Nostalrius literally banned thousands of chinese rankers, while Elysium does what? The chinese have never in the history of any server controlled the brackets except on Elysium horde side due to Elysium allowing them to run rampant with cheating. I've talked to a lot of ppl from ally br1 premadea over the time and they barely see them ingame? Are they dodging or opening empty games like they used to do for months on Nostalrius until the Nost devs had enough decided to call stop to it? What's up with a dev literally having to change 1 line of code to remove the retarded marks not dissapearing from the mailbox at all bug. I have personally made a bug ticket about it with and also sent tickets about it as I have 7+ days old AV marks in my mailbox not disapearing. Will you sanction abusing this bug as you have santioned people in the past? P.S. Do not try to make this an anti china post because I played with a minority of chinese pvpers all the time, and they were good and competent players. TLDR; the state of PvP is the worst on any private server I have played on, and I have played since Scriptcraft, due to allowing disgusting rampant abuse and turning a blind eye to it, as well as changing the original nostalrius timeline that kept the pvp rewards attractive and fresh for generations of rankers.

I can't seem to understand, so you should go for r13/14 just because you like the title next to your name or what? What prevents your from making your own premade? NOBODY forces you to PuG, you choose to.

@Haestingas https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9CLO31HDTjs2qPAn2FILB1dulLm1kup3G5Ih-Wrorg/edit the comparisons are all laid out there, please stop spewing bullshit when ppl actually took the time to analyze and post things here.

Do you even think why nost decided to update the gear earlier? Don't you see pvp is dying, especially horde side where it turned into a chinese shitshow honor boosting ring? You need to maintain a healthy PvP community... I'll just casually dump this here btw for all those who claim hurp durp PeVEpE gir betir then PvE BiS https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9CLO31HDTjs2qPAn2FILB1dulLm1kup3G5Ih-Wrorg/edit

The problem is, the cause is known and easily fixable/removable. The question is, why don't they fix it? A guy in the bug report literally fixed the typo in the code allowing the blatant cheating with marks and they refuse to fix it after a few weeks of it being up. My guess is they are taking profit from the studios. The CN rank boosters are selling Br1 spots for around 100-200 per week(I am not talking gold).

Yeah, let's not fix bugs like marks not dissapearing, priests not being able to put PW:S on any1, let's ignore chinese rank boosting operation set up, let's not update the gear the way nostalrius did, but let's lower respec to 25g LMAO!

They don't care. They are content with making PvP a fuckfest, just look at the ammount of chinese high ranked chars for $. How else do you explain this? Do you guys remember how many chinese acc sharing and wintrading studio accounts nost banned? How many did you ban in comparison? What's up with chinese abusing marks and having infinite stacks in mail seeing as they don't dissapear at all? There's even a guy who typed how the code fix should be and it's literally 1 line of code, it's been more than a week and no reply yet. What's up with china premade literally not being able to beat any of the alliance premades, not even the tradechatmades yet they just acc share to br1 without concerns of being banned. What's up with chinese on ZK being online for 200+ hours and when called out for acc sharing, a GM comes in and replies that's dedication to the game? What's up with Naidada being online for 3-4 days straight without logging? What's up with Yantao's weeks of anti afk scripts? What's up with Meiyingqishi selling br1 spots for $ (use the search function on the forum and see the proof)? I can go on and on, because this shit you are doing is ruining the server. What was wrong with the original Nostalrius timeline? It was actually ran by competent devs who saw the error of their ways and listened to the community. What incentive is there to rank when I can just raidlog and get my MC epics which outshine my pvp set pre update? How much time do I need to reach r13 and how many hours per week do I need to raidlog to get my epics? Elysium managed to get everything served on a silver plater and somehow managed to make it shit in the process. In multiple threads you have ppl who even made documents with stat comparison and none of the GMs/devs even bothered to acknowledge it? Stat Comparison document :https://docs.google.com/document/d/1s9CLO31HDTjs2qPAn2FILB1dulLm1kup3G5Ih-Wrorg/ GG no RE Elysium

ATM all r12+ horde are chinamen, thread lock now.

Imo update the PvP gear the same way Nost did to encourage PvP participation. This does not break anything as stated previously as the gear update will come too late and make it obsolete. HF playing 16hrs a day for multiple weeks grinding gear that is barely better than MC gear. Also, stop the china account sharing motherfuckers, Nost banned shitloads of chinese because of it. Just check the online times of the br1 chinese guys (whole Elysium br1 horde side is only chinese atm).

HF trying to settle for br1 spots when raptors ding 60, also gl allYenZ k2 shitmades soon, better prepare to start the good old k2 dodge trainXD

Definitely option 1. So, thoughts? Worth it to rank?

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Thank you snawfu, did not know that one! There, another argument OP healing down

How many healers will actually go for r14, less than 10 in nost pvp's existence, how is that a problem? Weapons are already set to be updated, the discussion is about the gear e.g. shadow priest being dogshit without the updated set. The r14 weapons are far too rare to be of a concern, check the number of for example r12/13s that will be screwed over with no gear upgrade.

Better healing in raids from PvP gear? LUL Reading this I would assume that all PvE guys have 6/6 r13 sets equipped since it apparently makes such a difference in PvE. I vote to close this topic as everything's been said already and we're just beating a dead horse. Having said that, it's about time we get a decision from the devs will they be following NosT and update the PvP gear earlier or not. Launch is in a bit more than a day and they've promised to announce it before the launch.

Every1 is waiting on the pvp upgrade decision, so chill until it's announced

1. +1, and you can't despute this, any1 who thinks that a t2 equipped class should beat a rank 13 equivalent in pvp is just not worthy of having a conversation with 2. Another +1, besides most of the dps difference comes from the player, not the gear assuming they are mostly similar.

Dragonslayers jealous cuz we 3rd world unemployed and have time for r13, get good small sons. Anyway, I think we've said it all and we're just spinning in circle. 8 k views and 6 pages later, what is the decision devs, update us?

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Breeze http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Ayahuasca I guess these r13 mages should be kicked from NOPE because their itemization is shit. Why aren't they optimizing their PvE gear with PvP pieces? There is literally 1 SP per raid serving as a buff bot for locks, why are you even bringing them up? Priests have no incentive to rank without the gear upgrade. As I've said, premades will be rogues vs wars and an enthusiast here and there if they do not recognize the rpoblem as nost did. I hope I am wrong but I've ralked with people and some have the same impression, including me. Updating the gear in BWL or ZG patch is more than fine, AQ makes it obsolete.

Going by that logic, nost is a funserver, adding bgs this early in the game is funserver, starting with 1.12.1 talents and raiding MC with them is funserver. Taurior even you have claimed that gear could use an uodate earlier than naxx and your beef is with weapons if I am not wrong? I am sure the nost team did not make a decision because they felt like making nost a funserver seeing as it was the most blizzliek out there(i hate using the term blizzlike but let's roll with it) and they certainly weighed the pros and cons and have decided that the pros outweight the cons.

Except that PvE gear outshines pvp gear snd stays relevant throughout the whole game while PvP gear is mostly obsolete in PvE come AQ.

What the above post said, don't try to rank if the sets will not be updated till naxx, there is no point.

This decision has actually benefited the community as it helped the gear become relevant for longer. If blue sets are a prob remove them from the game when you update(from the players also, i am sure it can be done)