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Also a good observation.

The weapons are not part of the problem as a very very small percentage will acquire them, nost has been around for how long and only 132 have them, out of which the number or warriors and rogues is 85.

Ok, if there were 5k 60s out of 150k accounts that is 2%, still shit. I am not trolling, trying to put correct numbers out there. Even if you're a retard and claim there were only 1k 60s on the realm that is barely more than 10%. Try to calculaze it urself with a number you have in mind.

By the way, up to this date 132 players have reached r14 on nostalrius since its existence. Nost claimed to have had 150 000 active accounts, but let's make this 100 000 accounts on PvP server to round the number. That would mean only 0,132% of players have the OMFG OP WEOONZ DRAGONSLAYERZ CAN'T COMPETE NO UPDATE WEPONS HANDOUT. How many of those are warrs and rogues, shall we keep going? You are literally only whining about the weapons as you also agreed that gear should be updated come ZG? Only 132 out of 100 000 got the weapons in the whole nost lifetime, once again.

MC is the 1st tier of raiding, claiming that gear should be better than HWL gear is just wrong in my opinion.

An MC geared warrior should not be able to beat a HWL warrior, no matter the update or not.

Read closely, I said you agreed on the main thing which is the gear update, I did not mention the weapons as the weapons are a topic I will not get into. You are basically the only 1 that had a normal contra argument, the rest being mostly trolls.

And lets be fucking real, my hopes are unfortunately not high. Kudos to Elysium for providing us with the server and platform for everything, but if it weren't for nost, Elysium would still be a stock mangos fuckup server with 300 ppl on it. Do the right decision for fuck sakes.

Even the one that were contra are now agreeing that the gear update should be either BWL/ZG patch. 5k views and 4 pages of posts agreeing upon the main thing, the gear needs to be updated earlier. Devs pl0x no ruSSki ignoramUS no destroy Srver

Could not have said it better.

You do realize that is close to what we are asking, update it at ZG patch sounds as an ok spot for it.

You are going to have pugs stomped by premades anyway, it was like that in vanilla and it will be like that always. Organisation beats random afk pugs, why is this even brought up in this topic? Dodging is another problem we need to solve, but it has nothing to do with PvP gear update. I suggest we talk more about the solution to dodging in another thread. You're twisting it again, answer my question first and think about it. Would you expect anyone to go in Naxx if there is nothing to gain there? Keep in mind we are talking about a multiple week no life grind in order to gain something that is just better than T1 that drops in an outdated instance we do with 1.12.1 talents. Elysium, if they decide to follow their timeline, will be the first vanilla server to do it and in return it will backfire. Not trying to rage, bash or anything, but Elysium devs had AQ in development for how long, 2 years or something? Judging by the track record, updated PvP gear inc 2020. Exactly, nobody is forcing us to do us, but we want to be properly rewarded and want the devs to realize the error of their ways, it's a tested solution, PvP gear upgrade did not ruin Nost or any servers before, but devs that failed to listen to the experienced crowds certainly were the undoing of many.

Exactly, why would any1 push for higher ranks then, what are high rank premades gonna be like 5rogues vs 5 warriors? I repeat, there is no incentive to push for higher ranks if they don't decide to alter the timeline like nost did. Let's put it like this, if all your AQ gear was worse than naxx gear and there was nothing to gain from entering naxx, how many would devote the time and consumables needed in order to have a wipefest and progress in naxx when there is nothing to gain? The server will be much healthier and there is no denying it, the blizzike fans fail to comprehend that a lot of things on Ely are not blizzlike to start with, why don't we campaign for progressive 1.2 talents, no BGs, no class revamps, old tier set models etc etc. if we fancy staying 100% blizzlike? I still haven't heard a good reason not to do it except for it being BiS until Naxx(which is BS as AQ gear outshines it by much) and it being non-blizzlike, completely ignoring the fact that a lot of the things aren't yet nobody is whining about them.

For example, r12/13 mage chest and head give no spell damage at all, imagine staying like that until naxx LMAO

Except that it isn't, the vast majority of it being teribad. It's barely better than t1 while requiring an absurd ammount of time and dedication in a set period of time(decay eats you alice if you try to take it casual while higher rank) while t1 requires you to raidlog a few hours per week.

Another thing this would do is put the fresh server at basically raidlogging MC/ONY for 8 months which would result in death. Elysium devs need to understand that the server needs a healthy PvP scene in order to prosper.

Yes, BGs will be avaliable from the start.

Point is, it would not break PvE as witnessed on nost. The main concern ppl state is that warriors and rogues are forced to rank in order to get those weapons. The weapons are getting an update in 1.6 anyway, we are just asking that the gear follows suit with the weapons in order to give the other classes the incentive to rank(maybe some casters want to go for the weapons as well if they feel like the reward is there).

Correct me if I am wring, but the wep uodate is 1.6 anyway?

The pre update pvp gear is dogshit, singling out 2-3 pieces of gear that are decent does not make it less dogshit.

2/10 mongoloide troll attempt

My frend wat you fail to understand is that without a healthy PvP scene the server is bige shiet and ded. Raidlog 6hrs cuz MC and BWL are hard(LMAO) and get lewt. I don't want to be the bad news guy, but you have to keep in mind that valk staff had been developing AQ for how long? What if the naxx takes double that that. INC NAXX PATCH 2020 PVP GEAR UPDATE BOYZ

Sure, lets also revert talents to their respective 1.2 versions if you're such a blizzlike fan.

I don't want to exaggerate, but it would literally destroy the PvP scene.

Well you guys were able to talk some senses into nost staff, the elysium staff is commiting the same mistakes instead of learning from nost devs LUL