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	Sure was. TY for clearing that up. Here is the thing about a 550+ DPS that people don't understand. I'd take a person that does 550+ that shows up 100% of the time over somebody that does 700+ that goes random MIA. On top of the fact that the Ret is giving improved blessing of might, can put in G1 if they take improved Ret aura for more tank threat, can Nightfall on pure DPS tank and spank fights to have raid DPS value of over 1k dps if your casters are respectable DPS. Carries an MP/5 set for Dispell bot so a pure healer can heal that encounter. Has a tank set to tank things like ZG Jindo/Spider rooms, AQ20 White bug packs / Ayamiss's room, AQ40 Fankriss small adds / Tunnel Gauntlet / Ouro spawns / Adds that spawn out of white bugs / Spiders in Naxx , Spawns from spider boss, Gauntlet after Hagan, grates on Gluth, can LoH an oh shit moment, can put on +healing gear on a fight where DPS are very limited. If he was doing half the damage of the majority of the raid, I'd say the versatility doesn't pull much weight, but when you are only doing 25%-33% less than your pure dps/no versatility classes, then I'm okay with a snow flake here and there. Special snowflakes should be close to 100% attendance, like a single guild shadow priest. Being MIA hurts. PS: If you don't have an MP/5 set, a tank set, and a +healing set; then you are a shitty ret pally.
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	Isn't Esfand maining a warrior now? I remember his videos of Naxx, pushing around 540 DPS patchwerk, beating the hunters and right behind the lesser geared mages. If you notice in most of his DPS Naxx videos he's in a Hunter/Warrior group but 100% of the time the hunter isn't using Trushot Aura (or standing close enough to buff his melee group - huntards gotta huntard am I right?), and majority of the videos the warriors don't refresh battleshout. Drove me nuts, so his dps should of been a little bit higher. If he was using nightfall over Dark Edge, his DPS would have been lowered on the meter but his DPS contributions would have been over many of the mages in his Patchwerk vid.
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				general question to some hordies
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	Vanilla is naturally whitewashed in terms of visuals. There was always this natural haze to everything. Check out Sweetfx. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/23671-sweetfx-preset-less-is-more-by-mrpresident/ Look at the linked screenshots on my OP to see how much of it you can remove. It makes things dark where they should be, and clean brightness where it should be as well, rather than the "fog". PS: Also try to disable "Full Screen Glow Effects" and see if that helps.
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	Contents 1.0 Introduction 2.0 First Steps 2.1 Molten Core Attunement 2.2 Gear 2.3 Fire Resistance 2.4 Hydraxian Waterlords 2.5 Consumables 2.6 Raid Group Composition 3.0 Trash Mobs 3.1 Molten Giant 3.2 Molten Destroyer 3.3 Firelords 3.4 Ancient Core Hound 3.5 Core Hound Pack 3.6 Lava Surgers 3.7 Lava Annihilator 3.8 Flame Imps 3.9 Lava Packs 3.9.1 Lava Reaver 3.9.2 Lava Elemental 3.9.3 Flameguard 3.9.4 Firewalker 4.0 Boss Fights 4.1 Lucifron 4.1.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.1.2 Strategies 4.2 Magmadar 4.2.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.2.2 Strategies 4.3 Gehennas 4.3.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.3.2 Strategies 4.4 Garr 4.4.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.4.2 Strategies 4.5 Baron Geddon 4.5.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.5.2 Strategies 4.6 Shazzrah 4.6.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.6.2 Strategies 4.7 Sulfuron Harbringer 4.7.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.7.2 Strategies 4.8 Golemagg the Incinerator 4.8.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.8.2 Strategies 4.9 Majordomo Executus 4.9.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.9.2 Strategies 4.10 Ragnaros 4.10.1 Attacks and Abilities 4.10.2 Preperation and Setup 4.10.3 Strategies 5.0 End Statement 1.0 Introduction It took me a while before I found a few decent sources that gave me a thorough guide to retail MC. I know it isn’t necessary but I thought it would be a good idea to grab everything together, remove some of the useless information and make a guide for the new players that will be joining us and the old players whose memory of the raid is starting to fade (very much like mine), just so it’s more easily accessible, relevant and can be used as a reference. Now, this guide will be highlighting and taking you through the strategies required to run MC in retail. Most, if not all, of this information should be/will be relevant for Kronos, as Kronos aims to provide a close-to-retail experience. However, there might be some tactics or strategies that will either not be required or do not work because the Molten Core on Kronos might differ slightly. However it has been made assured that it won’t, so please, take an hour, grab a coffee and read on to your hearts content. This guide just details the basic strategies and puts everything into one place. Reading this will prepare you a little for what to expect in Molten Core, but it will not make you an expert! No amount of reading or guides can make up the experience of at least one full Molten Core run. Nonetheless reading guides are required if you wish to run raid content and not become a burden. Many raid/group leaders will expect you to know the basics already and will not go out there way to explain everything whilst organising 38 other people. So do your leaders a favour and be prepared! If you have any better/differing strategies, or you feel something in this guide is wrong, please let us know in the comments so we, as a community, can discuss it. I will then update this post if better strategies or correct information has been revealed. I will also create and upload guides for all the other raid instances when I have the time. They will be linked here. A PDF copy of this guide is available here. Courtesy of none other then Brekiant 2.0 First Steps Before you enter or start thinking about partaking in any raid, there is a little thought and preparation required. As with most vanilla raids (exception being Zul’Gurub), an attunement is required to give you access to the raid and to provide an easy teleport to the front door. With MC in particular there is some necessary FR required, how much and where from will be talked about in Section 2.3. Lastly there are some consumables that you might consider taking, however some experienced players might argue it isn’t necessary for MC (apart from bandages!), as the raid is quite easy compared to the others of vanilla. 2.1 Molten Core Attunement The attunement is acquired through a quest called Attunement to the Core. http://www.wowwiki.com/Quest:Attunement_to_the_Core This is obtained by speaking to the blood elf Lothos Riftwaker outside of Blackrock Depths (BRD). Once completed, Lothos Riftwaker can teleport you directly to the entrance of MC, which is located in the dungeon of BRD. It is not a particularly difficult quest to do; you can complete it while attempting to clear BRD. You can receive this quest at level 55. To complete it you need to venture to the Molten Core entry portal in BRD and recover a Core Fragment by looting a rock just outside the portal. Return to Lothos Riftwaker in Blackrock Mountain when you have recovered the Core Fragment and that’s it, you are officially attuned to the raid. 2.2 Gear So what type of gear should you be looking to take? A good benchmark is that your gear should be your class's blue set or better. Most of the class sets are adequate but not great. To determine what pre-raid gear you should be looking at check out any class pre-raid guide for the Best in Slot (BiS) items. BiS gear can be found in any of the "Big 4" instances: Stratholme, Scholomance, Blackrock Spire, or Dire Maul, and once they are released; Zul'Gurub and Ruins of Ahn'Qiraj. FRis only useful in a couple of fights, but everyone needs it. FR is detailed below in Section 2.3. As much as possible, try to make a FR set that doesn't sacrifice all stats (In other words, don't wear all greens of +FR, although it may be necessary in a couple of slots) 2.3 Fire Resistance When you get closer to raiding MC you are going to have start thinking about obtaining pieces of Fire Resistance (FR) gear to wear or take along with you in your bags and swap over on some bosses/mobs. The following stats are required. - For Melee: 150-200 unbuffed - For Casters: 100-150 unbuffed - Hunters can get away with 0 FR unbuffed. However, I advise going in with around 75-100 Unbuffed means your base FR stat you receive from gear, without any buffs from Paladin’s Aura, Shaman’s Totem, Druids Mark or Consumables. Here is a quick list of items that provide +FR that you might what to think of obtaining: http://brafish.tripod.com/FR.html 2.4 Hydraxian Waterlords Hydraxian Waterlords is the faction opposing the forces of Molten Core. There is a decent quest chain (8 people in the raid are required to have it completed if you want to kill certain boss) off the coast of Azshara (79.73). It starts off with Duke Hydraxis providing you with 2 quests: Quest 1 - Poisoned Water: Kill water elementals in EPL Quest 2 - Stormers and Rumblers: Kill wind and rock elementals in Silithus Once this is done, visit the Duke a second time and they will have a third quest: Quest 3 - Eye of the Emberseer: Collect the Eye of the Emberseer from Pyroguard Emberseer. The first main boss in UBRS. This CAN be done in a raid. Return to the Duke and he will give you quest number four: Quest 4 – The Molten Core: Kill one Ancient Core Hound, one Molten Giant, one Firelord, and one Lava Surger. Easy enough to do on an MC raid. Once this quest is done the Duke will give you a quest to reach Honored with the Hydraxian Waterlords faction. Elementals in Silithus, the Burning Steppes, and everything in MC will give reputation. Once Honored, the Duke will give you quest number six: Quest 6 – Hands of the Enemy: Collect the Hands of Shazzrah, Lucifron, Gehennas, and Sulfuron. Now you get to kill these bosses. Have fun.http://www.wowhead.com/quest=6824/hands-of-the-enemy 2.5 Consumables You class will have its own specific group of consumables that will be taken along to any raid. This list will detail the consumables that any class should think of taking. A full list of consumables for every class will be extremely long. Before you enter any raid make sure you know what is expected of your class and what consumables to take! There are plenty of class specific guides for raiding on the net. It is very likely someone will be kind enough to make a class raiding guide for the Kronos forums. Everyone in the raid should have 300 FR buffed and a stack or more of bandages. Everyone should have potions: - Major Healing for just about anyone - Major Mana if applicable Other consumables worth considering – These can be annoying to farm but can be an awesome asset: - Food (+12 sta/spi, Nightfin Soup, etc.), Night Dragon's Breath and Whipper Root Tuber (since these don't share the potion cooldown) - Flasks - Blasted Lands Buffs - Felwood Consumables - Winterspring Juju’s - Weapon Buffs - Fire Protection Potion (If you haven’t been able to get your FA to 300 – if you have decent enough gear, this might not be necessary) A full list of all consumables that fall under the categories above can be found here:http://wiki.theamazonbasin.com/index.php/WoW_Raid_Consumables 2.6 Raid Group Composition You will need to start thinking of who to take along in this raid. A balanced raid group will ideally have 5 of each class available to you, for a total of 40. There's some room to shuffle people around based on availability and spec, but try to stick to that as a general formula. With MC being quite easy compared to other raids, I for one welcome the use of off-specs that are not labelled as ‘cookie cutter’. You might find some raid groups are not as welcoming to this idea for various reasons (due to efficiency, gear or achieving certain goals). But it is very possible to have a few people run a spec they are most comfortable with and will have the most fun with, and still easily finish this raid. However, the main issue with taking off-spec’s is gear allocation. You will find, especially the first couple of runs ever attempted by a new guild, any off-spec will not receive as much, or any, gear love as someone who rolled an efficient, raid purpose, spec. To expect otherwise is naïve and if you disagree with this or think of it unfair then any trouble or anguish you experience will be your own doing, and rightly so. Nonetheless, please play your class how you want to play it. Once you have a good roster full or raiding peeps. Get all of these people attuned and geared, then find a time. You'll need several hours where everyone can be there to really progress at all; although the raid timer system means you don't need to run the entire instance in one sitting, you'll incur a substantial penalty by reclearing to whatever boss you left off on. Be sure to have a group or so in reserve in case of no-show’s, it’s a bit unfair to this reserve group, but they might get a chance nonetheless. 3.0 Trash Mobs + Means info on the mob. - Means what this mob does during combat. = The strategy involved in killing it/dealing with it. 3.1 Molten Giant +Does NOT respawn back. -Single target knockback. -Area of Effect (AoE) stomp up to 8 targets =Try and tank against a wall =DPS after 2-3 sunders are up 3.2 Molten Destroyer +Does NOT respawn back. +Level 63. +Bigger and Meaner version of the Molten Giant -Single target attack, and attacks quickly. -Hits tank for 700 - 800 damage. -Massive trample - 1000 damage AoE attack -Smash Attack - 1000 - 1100 damage against a tank. -Knock down - Knocks a target down for a few seconds. =When paired with a Molten Giant, kill Giant first, then Destroyer. =Keep the Destroyer away from the main group. =Newer groups that can't take the damage and afford the healing should do ranged damage only and keep the melee out of the fight. 3.3 Firelord +150 minute static respawn. +Immune to crowd control. -Does 500 fire damage to a target. -Can debuff somebody to increase fire damage taken. -Ability that hits for 4000 damage + DoT which does 250 damage every 2 seconds + Silences. -Summons Lava Spawns, which does ranged damage for 600, if left up, the spawn will split into 2, etc... =DPS once tank has 2-3 sunders up =Kill Lava Spawns as soon as they come out. =Paladins and Priests dispel DoTS ASAP. =Mages use Blizzard on the Lava Spawns =If fighting 2 Firelords, get them together with the Lava Spawns and Blizzard AoE Once you have killed a few Firelords it becomes very routine and boring. 3.4 Ancient Core Hounds +18 minute respawn. +Patroller. +Immune to crowd control. +They stop respawning once Magmadar dies. -Frontal 180 degree bite attack. -Long range Fire AoE that does 800 damage. -In addition to this it will have one of six random AoE debuffs : Ground Stomp - 5 second stun. Ancient Dread - Slow spell casting and melee speed by 50% (Curse, can be removed) Ancient Despair - 3 seconds of confusion (Magic, can be removed, although generally no one resists to dispel it.) 200 Fire resist Debuff (Magic, can be removed) Withering Heat - Maximum hp reduced by 15% for 15 minutes (Magic, can be removed) 50% less int/spirit - (Magic, can be removed) =Have one tank at the front, everybody else stays behind. =Only AoE debuff worth dispelling is the 200 FR debuff, which can greatly increase the damge taken from his fire AoE. =You should have another tank (with FR) ready to tank the dog. Since some of its abilities (like the fear and stun) cause the tank to temporarily lose aggro. =Priests and Paladins must keep on eye on the type of debuffs and dispel when necessary. Special Note for Ranged DPS: If you have points in any talents that increase the maximum range of your spells or attacks you may be able to avoid the AoE debuff. After the MT has established aggro, simply back up as far away from the hound as you can. Be careful doing this. If the MT is afflicted with Ancient Despair, the hound will run straight for you. 3.5 Core Hound Packs +60 minute respawn. +There are 5 packs of 5 leading up to Magmadar. +Each hound in the pack must all be killed at the same time (within 10 seconds apart at the most), or they will be revived back! -Hits tanks for about 300-400 damage. -Frontal attack, which puts a DoT on target that does 50 damage every second for 30 seconds. This DoT can be stacked a total of 10 times for a total of 15,000 damage over 30 seconds. =Get at least one Tank per hound and have all the tanks bunch them up. Try to turn so that the dog's head is facing outwards. This way, as few tanks as possible will likely be hit by the melee dot. =Tanks should get the hounds to only face them, and away from the rest, to minimise melee DoT. =DPS your hounds when 2 sunders are up. Make sure all 5 are up before using AoE attacks. =Any person that does single target damage is also constantly looking for the dog with the highest HP to target. =Healers are to remember to continue healing the tanks after combat, those stackable DoT's continue doing a lot of damage after the battle. Be warned: If you pull too fast, i.e. having a dead pack on the ground while the next pull is coming in, the dead bodies can be reignited from the current aggroed pack! 3.6 Lava Surgers +28 minute respawn. +Stop respawning once Garr dies. -Surge: Charges toward the player on his threat list who is farthest away for 1000 damage and will deal 100 damage to all players in melee range of that player and knocking them back. =Banishable =Tank facing away from the raid =Tank and Spank – very easy fight. 3.7 Lava Annihilator +120 minute respawn. +Shares spawn points with Firelords -Hits a tank for 900 - 1100 damage. -Can be taunted, but won't hold aggro for long, randomly attacks targets which have generated threat =Best way to fight these is EVERYONE stands at their feet and DPS it down. With MT establishing aggro before everyone engages. =Tank can alternate between Taunt and Mocking Blow (note the cooldowns (CD) though) 3.8 Flame Imps +7 minute respawn. -Hits tanks for about 200. -Small AoE fire attack that stacks up quite quickly. =Warriors fight for aggro. =Mages use blizzard, if they get aggro, use frost nova, then more AoEs. =Move on quickly because these guys respawn fast! 3.9 Lava Packs Consist of Lava Elements, Flamewalkers, and Firesworns. These you will encounter after Garr's lair when clearing to Baron/Shazz. When you pull these you need to banish the elemental and have 2 tanks pickup the Flamewalker and Firesworn. DPS them down and then kill the elementals. They have a very nasty AoE and some fun debuffs. FR is very much needed for Lava Packs. These are probably the hardest Trash Mobs in MC. They can wipe a raid easily if they are not controlled right. So it is important to have some distance between the tanks and warlocks to the rest of the raid (at least 20 yards). Let the tanks get their targets, and face them away from raid, and only then start DPSing. It is very important that the Firewalker and Flameguard AoEs not be allowed to overlap. The main tank is usually assigned to hold the Flameguard facing away and some distance beyond the party, while the off-tank holds the Firewalker. The Firewalker is killed first, followed by the Flameguard, and finally each of the banished Lava Reavers or Lava Elementals. It is helpful to delay the banishing until 5-8 seconds after engaging the pack, so the reaver/elemental tanks have time to get aggro on their adds. If you fail to do this, the adds will come unsummoned and rampage through the raid until the tank grabs them again. +120 minute respawn. +4 different mob types. +2 different groups: Two Lava Elementals, Flameguard, Firewalker. Or Lava Reaver, Flameguard, Firewalker. 3.9.1 Lava Reaver +Level 63. +Has increased Resistances. -Hits a tank for 600 - 800 damage. -Cleaves for 600 - 700 damage. =Banishable. Usually banished first while group focuses on the Flameguard and Firewalker. =Their cleave is a chain cleave, which means it will hit anyone within appx. 5 yards of anyone else cleaved. As such, the melee DPS needs to be as far away from the tank as possible while DPSing these. 3.9.2 Lava Elemental -Hits a tank for 600 - 800 damage. -Strike - hits tank for 800 - 1000 damage -Pyroclast Barrage - Deals 1500 fire damage over 6 seconds and stuns the target. This hits in a cone in front of the mob and is not dispellable =Banishable. Usually banished first while group focuses on the Flameguard and Firewalker. =Tank these while facing away from the group =FR gear is advised when fighting these as Pyroclast Barrage and be devastating 3.9.3 Flameguard -Continuous small AoE damage attack that also debuffs armour -“Flamethrower" AoE that extends in front of it. =Off Tanks should face this mob away from the raid =Kill this mob after the Firewalker has been killed 3.9.4 Firewalker +Most dangerous of the 4. -Has a fire resist debuff. -Fireball – hits for 3000 damage, can potentially cast very rapidly. =Main Tank will aggro this mob =DPS will target and kill this mob first. Warlocks will target this mob after they have banished their assigned elemental. 4.0 Boss Fights 4.1 Lucifron This will be the first boss you encounter in MC. Popular opinion states that he is the second easiest boss in the raid. There is quite a bit of coordination required due to healing from AoE attacks, 2 different dispel types and 2 Flamewalker Protectors that have a mind control ability. 4.1.1 Attacks and Abilities - Impending Doom Inflicts 2000 damage to nearby enemies after 10 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Shadow Radius: 40 yards - Lucifron's Curse Curses nearby enemies, increasing the costs of their spells and abilities by 100% for 5 min. This cost increase applies to all spells and abilities, whether they cost mana, rage, or energy. Dispel Type: Curse School: Shadow Radius: 40 yards - Shadow Shock Instantly lashes nearby enemies with dark magic, inflicting damage. School: Shadow Radius: 20 yards Flamewaker Protectors - These Guards that are pulled with Lucifron and has the ability to mind controls players - Approximately 90,000 HP. - Cleave Inflicts normal damage to an enemy and its nearest allies, affecting up to 5 targets. School: Physical - Dominate Mind Takes control of a humanoid enemy for 15 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Shadow NOTE: It is believed that if you pull the Flamewakers from Line-of-Sight of Lucifron, there will be no mind-control. Blizzard designed the battle area with this in mind, **hint: notice the small dug cave in the room.** 4.1.2 Strategies In most cases, raids will first dispatch the first Core Hound Pack to give some room for the pullers and the main tank. It is important when Lucifron is pulled so that he does not come near the main raid group or there could be an instantaneous wipe. His guards have the ability to mind control, so it is sometimes easier to have one or two dummies move ahead of the main tank to suck up the mind control. Additionally, no one can move near the tunnel to the west, or the imps and surgers inside could chain aggro and wipe the raid. Generally, two hunters will use one of their insta-cast shots to pull the Flamewalker Protectors, while the Main Tank must run up, tag, and pull Lucifron in the opposite direction of his guards. Generally the back cove is where the guards are pulled, while Lucifron is taken to another alcove on the east, far from the main raid. Each of the guards must then be picked up by two off tanks and dispatched accordingly before Lucifron is targeted. Mages will not be contributing any large part of the DPS in this fight as they will be tied up with removing the curse that Lucifron casts on the raid every 15 seconds. Priests (and Paladins if Alliance) will also be tied up dispelling the Impending Doom debuff from healers, and especially the main tanks, and whoever becomes mind controlled. The core DPS for this fight therefore falls upon the rogues, hunters, and warlocks. Once the two guards are defeated, all DPS will shift to Lucifron. Usually around 20-25%, it is safe for some of the mages to begin casting their nukes, depending on their mana and how quickly they decurse the raid. Luci's debuffs have a range of 40 yards. It is possible for every healer (except the MT-decurser), and properly spec'ed hunters to stay out of Lucifron's curse-range, so with a good group you can minimize every curse-wave to about 10 raid members (melees). This makes the fight much easier and allows the mages to do damage too. You can also choose to keep only necessary players within the radius (healers, decursers, dispellers, tanks), and hold back the DPS players out of the range until Luci's mana is depleted. It takes a few minutes, but it saves the trouble of nearly wiping when the entire raid is bing hit by the curses and magic effects. It’s good to note that any ranged DPS that can attack at 41 yards through talents can exceed Luci's range and still DPS him down. They just have to be at their maximum range. 4.2 Magmadar Favored among Ragnaros's pets, Mag is protected by the Flamewaker Lucifron and surrounded by vicious packs of ravenous hounds. He is the second raid boss encounter of the Molten Core and is guarding the Rune of Kress. This rune will need to be doused by a Quintessence (see Section 2.4) if you wish to summon Majordomo Executus. 4.2.1 Attacks and Abilities - Magma Spit Magmadar spits out ‘globs’ of fire at random people. It stays on the ground and deals 93-107 Fire damage and an additional 75 Fire damage every 3 seconds for 30 seconds. Stacks up to 3 times. School: Fire Range: ?? yards - Lava Breath Inflicts 1157 to 1343 damage to enemies in front of the caster. School: Fire Radius: 35 yards - Panic (AoE Fear) Panics nearby enemies, causing them to flee in fear for 8 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Shadow Radius: 30 yard - Lava Bomb Throws a Lava Bomb at an enemy, creating a fire that inflicts 3200 Fire damage over 8 sec. School: Fire Range: 100 yards Fire Radius: 5 yards - Frenzy Every so often Magmadar will Frenzy. Frenzy massively increases his attack damage. - Immolation Melee classes fighting Magmadar will experience minor immolation damage. Can be avoided by staying at max melee range. 4.2.2 Strategies The main tank should pull Mag so that he is facing towards the main group of healers, hunters, and nukers. Maghas a frontal attack that should only hit the MT. To accomplish this, once the MT has aggro, the rest of the melee and the melee healers run around BEHIND Mag. Casters and the rest of the healers will be standing in front of Mag, but out of range of his frontal/fear attack. Here is the positioning: T=Tank, M=Melee, N=Nukers, H=Healers. The green circle is Mag's fear range Hunters must use Tranquilizing Shot (a learned skill that comes from a tome with a 100% drop rate from Lucifron) when he frenzies, they must pay attention to the order they use it in and whether it is a hit or a miss. The first few Magmadar fights will be tricky, since Tranq shot will often miss. Once a few hunters have it, however, they can set up a rotation so that if one person misses, someone else can back him up. All hunters should make macros which will say when you have casted tranq shot, and will also let the raid know if you have missed. During the first few fights when we only have one or 2 tranq shots, healers will have to pay special attention to when Tranq shot misses, since the MT will then require mad healing to stay alive. Melee DPS should come in on the sides and behind Mag. They need to be sure to avoid the Immolate, by staying at max melee range, and avoid any ‘globs’. They will be responsible for removing themselves from battle and bandaging since they will be out of range of the healers. If Fear Ward is not available, the warrior can "stance dance" in and out of Berserker Stance in order to use Berserker's Rage about every 30 seconds to avoid being feared. It is important that the main tank doesn't get feared — otherwise, while aggro will no longer be lost, Magmadar will follow the fleeing tank and the healers will suddenly be in range of him, and it is unlikely that the raid group will recover. A guild new to Magmadar may wish to have 2 groups of MT healers, only one of which is on the MT at a time. If the group that is actually healing the MT gets feared, the other group rushes in. My guild used this method until the healers became better at staying just out of AoE fear range. We found that 2–3 healers per group is enough so long as the hunters are quick with the tranq shots. The BoJ setup method: The easiest way to control the encounter is having healers and ranged DPS classes outside the fear range from the start. The trick to this is setting up the pull. Have your main tank walk up to maximum bow range from Mag and stay there. Now have your healers adjust position so they are just in healing range of the main tank. Healing range is 40 yards, and AoE fear range is 30 yards, so this should be easy. (Hint: if you can cast dispel or cleanse on the main tank, you are too close.) Hunters and mages with extended range now move to the same radius as the healers, but may need to move in a little to get range once the encounter starts. The healers and ranged DPS should be in a semi-circle and spread out to reduce the chances of a multiple people being affected by a Magma spit puddle. Once the healers and ranged DPS are in position, the main tank pulls Magmadar with a bow/gun. So, stay out of the fire globs that are put down by Magma Spit. Use Tranq shot to keep Magmadar calm, and have the MT stance dance to avoid being feared. Other than that, it's just DPS him down! 4.3 Gehennas Gehennas is the third boss in MC and is very similar to the Lucifron fight. As with Luci, the adds are split up, killed, and then the raid moves to fight Gehennas. Gehennas is a Shadow-based Flamewaker with two Flamewaker Elite guards watching over the Rune of Mohn. 4.3.1 Attacks and Abilities - Shadow Bolt 2000-2500 point shadow bolt on one non-tank target, chosen by the Random Secondary Targeting System (RSTS) School: Shadow - Rain of Fire Calls down a molten rain, burning all enemies in a selected area for 925 to 1075 Fire damage every 2 sec. for 6 sec. School: Fire Range: 40 yards Radius: 10 yards - Gehennas' Curse Reduces healing effects for nearby enemies by 75% for 5 min. Dispel Type: Curse School: Shadow Radius: 45 yards Flamewaker Elite - Fist of Ragnaros Stuns nearby enemies, rendering them unable to move or attack for 4 sec. School: Physical Radius: 8 yards - Sunder Armor Hacks at an enemy's armor, reducing it by 1000 per Sunder Armor. Lasts 20 sec. Can stack up to 20 times. School: Physical Range: Melee - Strike Strikes at an enemy, inflicting normal damage plus 35. School: Physical Range: Melee 4.3.2 Strategies Clear the entire area around Gehennas and then pull the guards to the south west and tank Gehennas in the center of the room. Make sure Gehennas is far enough away that the only people in range of his curse, shadow bolt, and rain of fire are the main tank and his healers/decursers (this could be the same person if the healer is a Druid). The two guards need to be tanked far away from Gehennas and need to be kept a decent distance apart, otherwise the tanks and melee DPS will end up stun locked the entire battle from the two cleaves. The raid should focus the each guard one at a time to get them down with maximum efficiency The MT on Gehennas will need a dedicated decurser usually a mage, but a druid will work as well (can also act as the main tanks healer). The tank must have the curse removed as soon as possible. Gehennas deals a fair amount of damage and you will not be able to keep the tank up if he is only receiving 25% of the healing. Once the two guards are dead the entire raid should focus on killing Gehennas. The guards go down pretty quickly, Gehennas takes a while. Mages and druids in this fight should be sure to adjust their decursing priority list to place the MT at the top, followed by other melee players, as the curse greatly reduces the amount of healing a player can receive. For everyone in the raid – remember to get out of Rain of Fire as soon as possible. Otherwise this encounter is fairly straightforward if you keep the adds separated. Note: if you're slow setting up and/or killing Gehennas there is a Lava Surger that is on a fast respawn timer that will pop and aggro. Just get a warlock to keep it banished until Gehennas dies. 4.4 Garr Garr is a conglomerate lava elemental boss found in Molten Core between Gehennas and Baron Geddon, and guarding the Rune of Blaz. He is a melee boss with 8 guards. 4.4.1 Attacks and Abilities - Antimagic Pulse Dispels magic on nearby enemies, removing 1 beneficial spell effect. School: Physical Radius: 45 yards - Magma Shackles Reduces the movement speed of nearby enemies to 40% of normal for 15 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Fire Radius: 45 yards Firesworn - Immolate Inflicts 760 to 840 Fire damage to an enemy and scorches it for an additional 380 to 420 damage every 3 sec. for 21 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Fire Range: 40 yards - Eruption Firesworn explodes, inflicting 1850 to 2150 Fire damage to nearby enemies. School: Fire Radius: 15 yards - Separation Anxiety If Garr is pulled too far away from his adds, his adds become enraged and will hit Tier 2 geared tanks for 4000-6000 damage. So don't pull him too far away. This ability can be seen with the help of the combat log or cast bar mods. 4.4.2 Strategies Strategy 1 The more warlocks in a group, the easier this battle will be, but this strategy still works with only a couple. Because killing his adds makes Garr more powerful, we want as many of them to stay banished as long as possible. Each warlock is assigned one of the Firesworn. For that specific Firesworn, a warlock must keep the Firesworn banished and have a Voidwalker to tank it in between banish breaks. Every Firesworn that is not assigned to a warlock must then be off-tanked and killed by DPS. During the fight, the group will benefit the most if all of the mobs are kept spread out, so as to prevent any difficulties with explosions and Garr's debuff abilities. Caution: when Firesworns die they explode, causing large amounts of damage to all surrounding group members. When they are about to die, melee must get away from Firesworns so as to save health and save healer mana. When all tank-assigned Firesworn are down, the group can then focus on Garr, which should be tanked by the MT from the very start of the fight. Warlocks must remember keep their targets banished at least until Garr falls. Once Garr is dead the raid needs to kill the remaining banished Firesworn one at a time. Positioning isn't as key for this fight as it is for others. His AoE dispel is irritating, but not deadly. Casters should fight the adds from as far away as possible, because periodically, Garr will order one of them to explode, doing damage to everyone within range. The adds shouldn't be moved too far away from Garr, because if they are, they will become enraged and run back to him, making them difficult to get under control again. Garr himself isn't that bad, but managing his adds is a bit tricky and will take some practice. Strategy 2 Have the Main Tank tank Garr and all the adds. Allow threat to be built up with Demoralizing shout prior to DPS. This can be tricky as the tank will obviously require a tremendous amount of healing. Several Paladins or Priests need to be constantly removing the Immolates from the tank. Once Garr is down the Firesworn can be AoE'd down. 4.5 Baron Geddon Baron Geddon is a fire elemental boss found in the Molten Core and it thought to be the easiest encounter in MC. He patrols near Shazzrah's spawn area while guarding the Rune of Zeth. This rune will need to be doused by a Quintessence (see Section 2.4) if you wish to summon Majordomo Executus. 4.5.1 Attacks and Abilities - Inferno A Point Blank AoE (or PBAoE) that increases in damage with each pulse. The pulses come about 1 second apart and last for 10 seconds. Damage starts at 500 damage per pulse and increases by 500 every other pulse (500, 500, 1000, 1000, 1500, etc.). Baron Geddon will not move while casting this and he will do 6-10 pulses. School: Fire Radius: ?? - Ignite Mana A powerful magic-based DoT that removes 400 mana per tick and does 400 damage to the target. Ignite Mana lasts for 5 minutes if not dispelled. 250+ FR will allow casters to completely resist this DoT often. Target is chosen due to RSTS Dispel Type: Magic Range: 35 yards - Living Bomb An effect that cannot be dispelled (It will be negated by Ice Block, Cloak of Shadows and Divine Shield, however). The bomb will explode in 10 seconds and cause 3200 damage to the target and those players in the immediate area (it can crit for 4800!). The target of the living bomb will also be flung straight up into the air and take falling damage upon landing. The Damage dealt by this is increased by the amount of +damage gear a character has on. At 2% Health Baron Geddon will emote "Baron Geddon performs one last service for Ragnaros." You have 5 seconds to kill him before he explodes like a living bomb, killing anyone in melee range (8500+ damage). 4.5.2 Strategies Baron Geddon is usually pulled to Garr's room for an easier fight. Typically the raid is setup in one of two ways: Geddon Line — This strategy involves the group making a line about 40 yards from the mouth of the cave after pulling him. Use a hunter and warrior to pull, getting the warrior the first bomb as a sacrifice. The line spreads out in order to avoid a wipe in case of a bomb that doesn't move, and so we have a clear, easy place to explode. Semi-circle — This strategy is to arrange the group in a *very large* semicircle around the MT, with an opening directed at the tunnel Geddon will be spawning from. When you are the bomb, turn around and run backwards towards the walls of the cave, well out of range of anyone else. Stacking — This strategy involves everyone standing on top of each other. usually on top of Garr's rune. There is one group of people who need to be at 30 yards from the Baron for attacking and another group directly behind them that is out of the range of the Baron's Ignite Mana but still within healing range. When someone becomes a bomb they run away from the group, generally slightly southeast to where the ceiling is low so when they explode they get no falling damage. Using this method requires a lot of trust in your raid-mates to run away when they're the bomb (as well as using a mod to instantly let them know they're the bomb) but by keeping healers and the dispellers out of Ignite Mana's range saves on mana used dispelling since only mages need to be dispelled. When Baron Geddon starts his inferno all melee DPS needs to leave, even the MT. No matter how well geared the MT is, he will have a hard time surviving the inferno (unless he has over 315 FR)(and if he does survive it will cost a lot of healer mana). Beginning groups in MC that can't take the damage may want to have all players do ranged DPS and only allow the MT to get into melee range. Ignite Mana should be dispelled, but not from warriors or rogues. Druids, if not otherwise engaged, can shift to bear or cat to eliminate both the mana loss and the damage taken from Ignite Mana until the debuff can be dispelled. Whoever is the living bomb MUST run away from the group and blow up by himself. Some groups have everyone else run away from the person with the bomb, but this method means all magic DPS and healing stops and is not recommended. It's suggested to try and run to one of the edges of the room where the ceiling is sloped down to stop one from flying up as high or get a mage to cast slow fall before you explode. Slow fall is not advised since you could end up falling in groups of mobs. There are places in the room where you don't even leave the ground when you explode. Fire resistance gear is very helpful for this fight, but other than that, it's just a matter of cleansing the ignite mana, moving out of range when he does inferno, and paying attention to when you are the bomb. 4.6 Shazzrah Shazzrah is an Arcane-based Flamewaker that shares a spawn area with Baron Geddon, guarding the Rune of Mazj. 4.6.1 Attacks and Abilities - Arcane Explosion Sends out a PBAoE, inflicting 925 to 1075 damage to nearby enemies. Range: 20 yards School: Arcane - Shazzrah's Curse Increases the magical damage taken by nearby enemies by 100% for 5 minutes Dispel Type: Curse School: Arcane Range: 35 yards. - Magic Grounding Reduces the magical damage taken by the caster by 50% for 30 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Nature Range: Self - Counterspell Counters the spellcasting of nearby enemies, preventing any spell from that school of magic from being cast for 10 sec. School: Arcane Range: 30 yards - Gate of Shazzrah Teleports the caster 20 yard forward unless something is in the way. Also frees the caster from any bonds. (About every 45 seconds Shazzrah will blink to random target causing a wipe of the threat list) School: Arcane 4.6.2 Strategies Shazzrah can be fought in any area that gives a nice 35 yard radius (either the room he patrols or back in Garr's room). The raid is divided into four groups that stand at max range around the main tank. The reason for this layout is to minimize the damage from Shazzrah's arcane explosions whenever he blinks. Each group should consist of several decursers (Mages and Druids). Shazzrah's Curse must be removed immediately by Mages and Druids, starting with the main tank as he's constantly being bombarded by Shazzrah's Arcane Explosion. Since the curse's range is only 35 yards, Druids can stand back 5 more yards and heal while focusing on decursing their group without being affected by the curse. Mages can then focus on DPS and be the ones who worry about decursing the main tank. Detect Magic must be kept on him by a Mage at all times so that his Magic Grounding can be removed by a Priest ASAP. Only ranged DPS can attack Shazzrah early on. When he gets low enough (around 5-10%), melee DPS can move in to help speed things up. This is to minimise the damage of Arcane Explosion and doesn’t exhaust the healers mana. There are a few ways to deal with the Blink. If everyone spaces out from each other correctly, when Shazzrah casts his Blink, the positioning can minimise the damage from the Arcane Explosion. The player, NO MATTER WHAT, must NOT run away once Shazzrah Blinks to him/her. They must immediately run back into the centre towards the main tank. Another method is to have a hunter or two close to the Main Tank in the centre and cast Distracting Shot whenever Shazzrah Blinks away, to pull him back to the centre. The hunter must be extremely quick in doing this as DoT’s can rack up the threat again after he Blinks (Blink resets the aggro table). 4.7 Sulfuron Harbringer Sulfuron is a melee Flamewaker boss, with four Flamewaker Priest guards, watching over the Rune of Koro. Sulfuron is a lot like Lucifron - it's all about dealing with his 4 adds. He himself isn't that bad, but his adds have a number of tricky abilities: 4.7.1 Attacks and Abilities - Demoralizing Shout Reduces Attack power by 300 School: Physical - Inspire Buff that doubles attack speed and increases his damage by 25%. This previously could be dispelled, but as of patch 1.10 it appears it can no longer be dispelled. School: Fire Range: 45 yards - Hand of Ragnaros Inflicts 630 Fire damage to all nearby enemies, knocking them back and stunning them for 2 sec. School: Fire Range: 10 yards - Flame Spear Tosses a spear of flame, inflicting (100% of Spell power) Fire damage to an enemy, as well as scorching any other enemies in the vicinity of the target. School: Fire Range: 45 yards Flamewaker Priest - Dark Mending Uses dark magic to heal an ally for 237500 to 262500 damage. School: Shadown Range: 60 yards. Cast Time: 2 seconds - Dark Strike Consecrates the caster's weapon, inflicting 1026 to 1134 additional damage on its next attack. All damage caused is considered Shadow damage. School: Shadown Range: 10 yards - Immolate Inflicts 19000 to 21000 Fire damage to an enemy and scorches it for an additional 9500 to 10500 damage every 3 sec. for 21 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Fire Range: 40 yards - Shadow Word: Pain Utters a word of darkness, inflicting Shadow damage to an enemy every 3 sec. for 15 sec. Dispel Type: Magic School: Shadow Range: 30 yards 4.7.2 Strategies The guards can have their heals interrupted so warriors, rogues and mages should be shield bashing, kicking and counterspelling. There will need to be 5 tanks, one for Sulfuron and one for each guard. Mortal strike will also help ensure that if they get a heal off it will be reduced. Strategy 1 The first approach is to have the four guards separated into different corners of the room, while the DPS goes from one guard to another until they are all down and then to focus on Sulfuron. This strategy, however, requires five strong tanks and the healers to keep them up. Strategy 2 The second approach requires that the guards are all tanked in the same place and one at a time they are led away to be destroyed by the DPS. This can be an easier strategy because the tanks can share healers if one goes down or runs out of mana. Strategy 3 Another approach is to herd all guards in one spot and hit them with massive AoE from mages/warlocks. Whenever health of any one of the guards falls below 20%, all DPS is focused on him, hoping that he dies before other guards have a chance to heal him. This approach depends on a lot of firepower, and it will take longer time for guards to die, but it is easy to implement. Strategy 4 A warrior and a rogue or two is assigned to each of the adds. Hunters will pull off the adds to their warriors, and the MT will grab Sulfuron. The DPS group will be standing farther back, up the hill. The warriors will bring the adds, one at a time, up to the DPS group, where they will be killed. The other warriors and their healers will be down the hill, holding their adds until they are called to bring them to the DPS group. Just remember to continuously interrupt Dark Mending. The rogues should be kicking the Priests like mad as they are being off-tanked and until they are called up to the DPS group. The magic debuffs from the guards are much worse than the melee damage, and will generally target the off-tanks and their healers. Dispelling these debuffs should be absolute priority for Priests for Horde, or Paladins for Alliance. Prayer of Shadow Resistance on tanks and healers helps a lot. Fire resist totems / auras also help. Even though Sulfuron doesn't have any annoying/damaging special abilities of his own, he still hits hard, and the MT healers need to be aware of this at the beginning of the fight. Just to recap - for the fight one or two priests needs to be strictly on dispelling the power words and immolates that pop up. Rogues and others need to be aware of the casting abilities of the Flamewakers and be ready to interrupt when heals are being cast. Also, priests need to be aware when Sulfuron buffs himself, and must be ready to take it off. 4.8 Golemagg The Incinerator The first thing about Golemagg is that he has a lot of HP. This is the longest fight in MC, when guilds are just getting to him, he tends to be a 5-8 minute fight. Golemagg is a molten giant boss with 2 pet dogs, called Core Ragers, for guards of the Rune of Theri. 4.8.1 Attacks and Abilities - Golemagg's Trust Buffs the Core Ragers with 500 increased damage and increased attack speed by 50% if they are close enough. - Magma Splash A range ability that procs onto anyone attacking and will stack with itself. It does fire damage over time and reduces armor of the target. Magma Splash will start off doing 50 damage per tick with 250 armor reduction. If allowed to continue stacking it will go up to a total of 50 stacks doing 2500 damage per 3 seconds plus 12500 armor reduction. Dispel Type: Magic School: Fire Range: ?? - Pyroblast Randomly deals 2000 damage to a member of the raid, includes a DoT that deals 200 damage every 3 seconds for 12 seconds. School: Fire Range: 40 yards - Earthquake (only at 10% health) Inflicts 1388 to 1612 damage per tick School: Physical Radius: 18 yards At 10% health Golemagg will also start casting earthquake doing damage to all around him and begin attacking much faster. Golemagg will also cast 'Attract Rager' onto every member of the raid when he reaches 10% health. This ability adds a certain amount of aggro to all in the raid except for the warriors tanking the Core Rager. Core Ragers - Mangle Reduces movement by 50% and deals 300 physical damage every 2 seconds. If the dogs health is reduced below 50% they will emote a message "Core Rager refuses to die while its master is in trouble" and regen to full health. If you pull the dogs too far away from Golemagg; he'll evade bug, reset and start all over again (I do not know if this will happen on Kronos) 4.8.2 Strategies This is the most boring and uneventful fight in the whole of Molten Core. The main tank needs high fire resistance (to reduce the effect of the magma splashes), and healers need to pay some attention to their mana pools, since it's a rather long fight. In addition, Priests and Paladins much keep a vigilant eye on anyone affected by the Magma Splash and cleanse the DoT ASAP. Two off-tanks should fight the Core Ragers far away from Golemagg. The dogs can't die so there is no reason to DPS them, just keep them occupied. When they are out of range of Golemagg's buff, their horns will stop glowing red. When Golemagg gets to 10% life the melee should leave and he should be killed by ranged. It is often a good idea to have two tanks on Golemagg. If the main tank gets too many DoTs on him it will be simply impossible to keep him up. The second tank can either be ready to take over when the main tank dies, or when the DoTs start getting too high on the main tank the second tank can take over and let the main tank recover. He randomly spits Pyroblasts at random people, bandaging themselves should be fine once the DoT is over. This fight is one of the few places where Curse of Weakness is useful, as the two hounds are not killed themselves. The hounds also can provide a steady stream of health to warlocks via Siphon Life. 4.9 Majordomo Executus At this point your MC run is finished unless your group has 7 people who have finished the Hydraxian Waterlords' quest line and have Aqual Quintessence with them. If that's the case, you should use it to douse each rune scattered throughout the instance. Executus comes with four Flamewaker Healers and four Flamewaker Elite guards making this a total of a nine enemy encounter. Executus will "submit" and the fight is won when all the adds are dead. He then appears in Ragnaros' chamber and will summon the Firelord to begin the encounter. 4.9.1 Attacks and Abilities Does not hit particularly hard, but must still be tanked as he can do serious damage to the lower armor class characters in the raid. - Aegis of Ragnaros Majordomo frequently casts this spell on himself, absorbing 30,000 damage, reflecting 250 damage on successful melee attacks, and healing himself to full. This means that it is literally impossible to kill him. School: Shadow - Shield The shield spells last for 10 seconds before fading. Majordomo will give the shield to all his followers. Purple Shield – While this shield is up, up to 100 melee damage per hit reflects back to those inflicting it. White Shield – While this shield is up, each magic attack has a 50% chance to reflect back to the attacker. School: Arcane - Teleport Any enemy Majordomo is engaged with can be targeted with this random spell that teleports its target into the nearby fiery pit of Molten Core. There is nothing to counter this ability aside from running back. You'll also get randomly hit with 1-2K fire damage while standing on it, so move out quickly. Whoever has been teleported to the center should be overhealed as not to die. - Blast Wave A damaging area of effect flame attack which hits nearby players with moderate fire damage. School: Fire Radius: 30 yards Flamewaker Elites - Hits a tank for 800 - 1000 damage - Fire Blast deals 900 - 1200 fire damage - Shields – Same as Majordomo. - Blast Wave – Same as Majordomo. Flamewaker Healers - Shields – Same as Majordomo. Do not have your groups' Mages cast Polymorph on the healers while the white shield is up, as they can sheep themselves. - Random Shadowbolts The Healer’s will also hit random secondary targets with ~1000 damage shadow bolts at raid members in range. - Heal These heal any target mob, but can be interupted by stuns. 4.9.2 Strategies Majordomo is not the target of this encounter, to win you must kill all his guards. You can sheep the healers, however you can only keep them "chain-sheeped" for the beginning of the battle, sheeping is disabled after 4 of the adds die, Majordomo will do an emote and they will become immune to sheeping. Use Stun and Counterspell when bringing down the healers. This is important for stopping spell casting and bringing them down fast. First off, make sure to have the Main Tank and a Paladin/Hunter on the Majordomo, and then distribute off-tanks to all the other unsheeped mobs. A second off-tank (Paladin or Hunter) should also join the Main Tank to pick up aggro from the Main Tank when he gets teleported to the fiery pit. Majordomo usually teleports the closest player to him to the fire pit so the allocated Hunter or Paladin should stand directly on top of Majordomo. If this is unsuccessful, the hunter can use distracting shot on Domo whenever he charges off so that the tank can regain aggro, or the Paladin can off-tank. Majordomo is susceptible to Taunt, but teleporting the MT, thus lowering his aggro makes him randomly wander away from the MT and into the main raid. You will need 5 tanks altogether, similar to Sulfuron, and healers on each of them. Spread out Majordomo and the four elites. Each tank should pick a sheep when his elite is dead. Healers should spot heal when their assigned tanks aren't actively tanking something; also, this is a fairly long and chaotic fight, so be careful with mana. Be sure to keep notice of which shields are up on the mobs. White means that casters should take a break from hurling DPS, and purple means that melee classes should stay back (aside from the tank, who should be keeping agro). There are numerous “successful” strategies on which order to go at the guards in. However the two that seems to work best are the following: 1-4-3 Method 2-4-2 Method -Kill an elite -Kill an elite -Kill a healer -Kill an elite -Kill a healer -Kill a healer -Kill a healer -Kill a healer -Kill a healer -Kill a healer -Kill an elite -Kill a healer -Kill an elite -Kill an elite -Kill an elite -Kill an elite At the very start of the fight, Mages will pull their adds from the group with Counterspell and then sheep them. From a Mage point of view, while sheeping, it is critical to drink a Fire protection potion 2 minutes prior to the fight. While sheeping, you should ALWAYS have Mana Shield / Fire Ward up, as well as detect magic on the sheep target. Never lose your target and keep a vigilant eye on it. Bandage right after casting a new polymorph if you need to heal. Do NOT Polymorph while magic reflection is up. Sheeping is fine with damage reflection. To summarise: At the pull, Mages should have fire ward/mana shield up. Get within max distance of Counterspell and use it to pull aggro, and immediately sheep. A Paladin or Hunter, is assigned to a Mage. If the healer unsheeps while shield is up or the Mage dies, A Pally needs to stun or off tank till shield is down. Alternatively you could use a hunter for this to take aggro and kite until the shield is down and the mage can resheep. Once the 7th guard is dead, the 8th and final will enter "Uber" mode. In this mode he grows roughly 50% in size and hits far harder, so be careful. Once all the guards are dead, the Majordomo submits. One tactic is when the last two elites are alive, bring them both down to 10-20% health, kill one then just destroy the other. Majordomo Executus himself does not drop loot as he in fact does not die. He instead offers access to the Cache of the Firelord. 4.10 Ragnaros Ragnaros's Lair can be found down a passageway more or less across from Gehennas's spawn point. Ragnaros is the final boss in Molten Core. He is a huge fire elemental that is summoned by Majordomo in the centre of a rock and lava spiral room, once you speak to him. Ragnaros is also one of the hardest Bosses in the game to defeat. Ragnaros is the first real "gear check" in endgame raiding. He is the 1st target to really bring down in a raiding guild, requiring collective effort and perseverance. One could say that Raggy makes or breaks new raiding guilds. He provides training for the basic skills to face BWL and AQ40, and further down the line Naxxramas. 4.10.1 Attacks and Abilities - Wrath of Ragnaros Melee Knockback 25s cooldown. "Taste the Flames of Sulfuron!" . When this ability is used characters in melee range are sent flying, much like Garr's guardians when they die. This also reduces threat of the targets it does hit. It is common to be thrown very far and end up either in the lava or in the back row. It is resistible and on a predictable 25 second timer. Melee DPS should back out of melee range and only resume attacks once they are sure the MT or OT has aggro. Most melee deaths occur by melees engaging too fast -- after the MT fails a resist and gets knocked back but before the OT engages. Because of Ragnaros's size, melee DPS cannot see the MT and OT and must use the "target of target" feature of the UI which can be found in the interface options or a "target of target" mod. - Hammer of Ragnaros Ranged Knockback and Damage 20–30s cooldown. "By fire be purged!" This attack targets a random player with a mana bar and knocks back all players (excluding the target) within ~20 yards. They are knocked back from the impact point which is at the foot of the target.\ - Lava Splash Localized Damage at various times a lava splash will be triggered which cause large damage to all those hit. It will affect anyone within close proximity to a lava flow. With decent fire resist (150+) it should be partially resisted most of the time. It can be partially resisted with the standard mechanic; every 100FR equals about 25% damage reduction. - Elemental Fire Damage Debuff. This is a debuff that Ragnaros puts on whoever has aggro. 4800 damage over 8 seconds. - Magma Blast Massive Ranged Damage. If no one is engaged in melee with Ragnaros he will throw a ranged attack for 4000–6000 damage which will kill most non-tank players in 1 hit and quickly wipe the raid. It's advisable to have a MT stand by at the end of Phase 2 to pick him up immediately upon resurfacing. - Melt Weapon Melee Durability Damage. Often Ragnaros damages melee weapons that strike him. This takes 1 point off a weapon's durability per attempt. To counter this, bring spare weapons and ensure the raid has a repair-bot for between every few attempts. - Summon Sons of Flame After 3 minutes of combat Ragnaros will summon 8 Sons of Flame and submerge (he will still be visible though; this might be a bug). After 90 seconds or once they are defeated (whichever happens first) Ragnaros will reappear. This process continues after a further 3 minutes until either your group or Ragnaros is dead. Be aware that Ragnaros considers Banished sons as defeated and can resurface prematurely. See below for a detailed Sons of Flame strategy in Phase 2. Sons of Flame - They hit for around 1500 physical damage. - Mana Burn Aura This has a fairly small radius but still covers 5 - 10 yards. It converts mana to damage for everyone in the area at a very fast rate. Casters and players with mana need to clear the area FAST. 4.10.2 Preparation and Setup - All other Molten Core bosses must be defeated before Ragnaros can be summoned. - The whole raid needs to know where the exits from the lava are, because everybody has a good chance to take an involuntary lava bath. - Fire resistance is the key to surviving his attacks. Your MT should have at least 300 (315 is recommended with buffs) fire resistance. No member should exceed 315 resistance buffed as it is the maximum effective level of resistance. - Any melee classes should have at least 200. - Any other class should have at the very least 100 (unbuffed), or they won't be around very long. In each case, more fire resistance is better. - Everyone in the raid should use anywhere from 1-3 fire protection potions during the fight to stay alive. Preferred a few seconds before the sons of flame spawn. - All ranged DPS (Mages, Hunters, Warlocks) should keep in mind that it is impossible for them to pull aggro from the MT. Ragnaros will always attack players who are in melee range first, regardless of their position on his hatelist (so don't hold back on DPS). - From the time you get Domo to summon Ragnaros you have 2 hours to defeat him, after which he submerges. Majordomo Executus will respawn within 2 to 3 hours. - All melee and close support need to be on the inner ring engaging Ragnaros while he is up. Note that placing any class with a mana bar in melee range will mean that those in melee range will be at risk of being knocked back by his targeted knockback ability. - All the healers and ranged support should be on the secondary ring away from Ragnaros. They must also stay away from the lava flows or they will be affected by the lava splashes. - All players should spread out so that they are not knocked back and damaged when Ragnaros uses his ranged knock back ability. This means that melee should be around Ragnaros generally on the south, west and north parts of the inner ring, and the ranged is on the south and west portions of the outer ring. There are small patches of wall on the outer rings that, when stood directly against will usually prevent Ragnaros' random fireballs from knocking you back. 4.10.3 Strageties This fight alternates between two stages - in the first, Ragnaros is up and everybody concentrates on DPSing him, in the second Ragnaros is immune to DPS, and the raid has to deal with his sons instead. Ragnaros is always up for 3 minutes (stage 1), then submerges for 90 seconds. This alternates until either the raid is wiped or Ragnaros is dead. The basic idea is to get him down to 30%-40% before the first wave of sons, to be able to kill him before the second. If your warriors and warlocks are up to the task, it is possible to get him down between the second and third wave of sons, but there's not much point in holding back DPS as no tradeoff between survivability and doing damage is possible. Phase 1 Have your MTs run in and attack, and have all your melee and ranged DPS assist. You have 3 minutes before he submerges. Ranged DPS should immediately burn trinkets and cooldowns to maximize damage. So long as anyone is within melee range of Ragnaros, ranged will never pull aggro, thus dish out as much as possible. Ragnaros will shoot random explosions that knock people into the air (often into the lava) and do a lot of damage. Players knocked away must return to their designated areas so they can be in range of the healers, as they will be very busy. Ragnaros also has an AoE knockback ability that he does every 25 seconds. All melee types except the MT should back out before this happens and then re-engage immediately afterwards. 20 seconds before Ragnaros submerges and spawns Sons of Flame, the whole raid (exc. the MT who keeps tanking until the submerge) should collapse to the southern lip of the outer ring, as to be ready to handle the sons when they spawn. Mages should already be positioned at the collapse point. Mana users should be at the very edge of the ring, as to avoid the Son's massive mana burn aura. Tanks and Rogues should form a wall in front of the casters. Phase 2 Ragnaros submerges and 8 "Sons of Flame" come out. They do purely fire-based damage and have an AoE mana burn, so you need to keep them away from your mana-users. The sons spawn from around the spiral that Ragnaros is along the west, north and east side, and then rush south to meet the raid. The sons damage is entirely fire based, so with decent fire resistance you will take very little damage from them. Control them with warriors, mage frost novas, mage blizzard, perhaps bear tanks, hunter freezing traps and kill them all (there is not much time for banish, but some guilds choose to banish a few). The Sons should be tanked and banished while they are brought down one after the other. It is important to always have at least one that is not banished, as sometimes when all the remaining sons are banished (or otherwise incapacitated) Ragnaros will re-appear. If this happens you are very likely looking at a wipe. Also you must deal with the Sons quickly as Ragnaros will surface after 1 1/2 minutes whether they are dead or not. To accomplish this everyone MUST be assisting one person that is picking targets. If attacks are spread out they will take too long to kill. With all DPS on one Son you should be aiming to drop one every 10 seconds or less. Ragnaros will come back after 90 seconds or when all sons are dead, whichever happens first. When you are nearing the 90 second point in the fight it is critical that you send the main tank, secondary tank and their healers back to engage Ragnaros when he re-enters combat. If the tank is not there Ragnaros will start throwing Magma blasts. Once the rest of the group has killed any remaining sons they should re-enter combat with Ragnaros. Phase 3 Same as Phase 1. You have 3 more minutes before he submerges again for another minute-and-a-half session with the Sons of Flame. Generally, you want to kill him before the Sons spawn again or else you will probably die. If you don't get him to at least 40% HP before the end of Stage 1, then you probably won't accomplish this goal. 5.0 End Statement If you have reached this point and have read, pretty much, the entire thing, I applaud you. You are the type of raid member every raids needs. It is a very very long read, and a lot to take in. So feel free to have this up whilst you are running Molten Core (this is where a second screen is amazing).
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	This is nothing. Any OG Anathema players remember the 45 minutes it would take just to make to from the front of DM to one of the instance zones? Horde would group in sets of 7-10 and space out JUST enough to where if you went max rez distance, it would be on top of the next set of people all the way through the DM path. Then the instance door of west was stacked with about 20 horde to insta gib anybody attempting to reset an instance. Oh and some times once I finally made it to the end of their list of kill camps, they would have a priest at the last camp MC you and walk you back, and priest would do the same at the camp before and so on and so on. Then they would kill you at the first camp again and you have to start over. 10-15 min rez timer and more at this point. Stop trying to quest in over populated zones. Find a corner of a map and grind. You'll level faster.
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				<Thundercats> [A] Tues / Thurs 10:00 EST
Undertanker replied to Undertanker's topic in Guild Recruitment
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	It is VERY important to pool rage if you can can on your openers for these types of classes. Only hamstring and Auto until you see the bubble, that is when you'll want to use MS and try to break it. Other than that, get a pocket healer to L2 Dispel.
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	Glancing blows are not 15% of normal damage. This is a huge exaggeration. Edgemasters +Dagger / Sword / Axe does not include 2H so Orc racial +ax doesn't apply either. Troll would help push more Nightfall procs in PVE, Tauren has a nice Warstomp CL combo for PVP. Many people do not understand the synergy of Nightfall for specific bosses. Your Ret/Enhancement should not be the only one with a Nightfall crafted. All of your tanks in your guild should also have one. Nightfall has a 2PPM based on auto attack only. 17 Autos in 1 minute. Giving it an 11.66% proc rate. Or a 16.66 % uptime unbuffed for Hunter / Warrior Ret / Shaman. Using Counter Weight Stone and +1% head/lead/glove enchants will give 6% attack speed (3.29 second delay). While to proc rate is still based off the BASED 3.5 speed, the proc rate will not adjust, but your uptime will increase from an average of 10 second uptime out of every 60 seconds to 10.5 seconds giving a 17.66% uptime per person swinging the Axe before factoring in class global cooldowns (Tanks using Hamstring, Hunters using Raptor Strike, Shaman Storm Strike and Flurry, Paladin using SoR) Storm Strike should increase your Main Tanks threat/damage as Thunderfury proc will easily consume both 20% nature damage charges. Shaman's can keep an average 31% uptime of Nightfall: Naxx DPS Warlocks / Mages can dish 1,100 DPS and beyond. Mages will have ignite which will push well beyond this, locks become pretty consistent. But to safe face that not everybody is a super star, lets take away 10% and say they are doing 1k DPS on say, patchwerk and running 5 of each class (minimal you should bring). 10K DPS. A 15% spell damage buff @ 31% uptime gives an average spell damage buff rate of 4.65%. This contributes to 465 DPS. If you had 12 ranged casters, this contributes to 558 DPS. If you had 15 Ranged DPS this contributes to 697.5 DPS. This is just addition to the base damage the Shaman should be doing at this point of Vanilla. 375 DPS single target is respectable for a nightfall bot and should be overachiveable, 450 in BiS Nightfall set. Add this to your Nightfall raid damage increase and you can account for: 840-915 DPS with 10 geared ranged casters 933 - 1147.5 dps with 12 geared ranged casters (contributing more than their 1K dps benchmark - 1040.25 DPS average) 1072 - 1147.5 dps with 15 geared ranged casters (out performing the 1k dps benchmark on bottom end. This does not even factor in the classes utility of what else they do outside of auto-attacking and waiting 20 seconds for stormstrike. Even taking storm strike out of the rotation if you are debuff prioritizing, the uptime isn't affected too much. Note a Hunter can do the same thing on fights light patchwerk to and give a lower uptime however still contributes a lot. Ret pally has high uptime as well on Nightfall due to SoR.
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				Don't Flame Me - Race Change
Undertanker replied to magamis's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
Yeah for sure a potential flame topic to be shut down by the masses. For those what are about to hit Magamis hard on this, let me ask you this: What if certain mechanics were broken at the release of the project / when you created your toon causing you to make a decision based on how things are, however those mechanics were since adjusted/changed making you backtrack on your initial decision? - 
	
	
				In Response to the Zeth'kur news.
Undertanker replied to jmul1212's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
You are clueless. - 
	
	
				Song describing the Project
Undertanker replied to killerduki's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
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				Fast 2h Weapons for Enhancement Shamans are underrated
Undertanker replied to Millksteak's topic in Shaman
In a PVP environment (which an enhancement would be a topic of more than PVE, and even in PVE) a slow weapon does many things for you. First and foremost, the initial hit on the target. You start a battle with 0.0 seconds on your swing delay (though is reset if casting which is why casting should be done during Shaman kiting). So by having a weaker top end damage weapon, you greatly reduce your opener damage. On top of this, as an Enhancement 2h, you should be Swing Timer kiting your mobs or people in PVP. Low rank Frost Shock, or Totem. Swing your auto, kite your target until your swing timer is ready, go in - hit - go back out. Repeat. Also if somebody it attempting to kite you, when you finally do get in range, do you want it to be a 143 base weapon hit or a 256 hit? Stormstrike is apart of your BURST, who cares how it performs on a 100% uptime target (which you'll never have in PVP and shouldn't be in PVE solo if correctly Swing Timer kiting like you should be). Ensuring it does max damage is critical to your success. Windfury Weapon grants you 2 extra attacks. Using your example of Brain Hacker vs Arcanite Reaper let's look at best damage. 143 vs 256. What do you want 2 extra swings from? 286 damage or 512 damage? That is a 78% difference. You can not argue "but I swing 80% faster" because you are also not taking into consideration your start of combat 0 second swing timer, Stormstrike instant attack, and having such a fast weapon prevents effective swing timer kiting. Flurry increases your attack speed by 30% for your next 3 swings. Lets use your example again of Brain Hacker vs Arcanite Reaper let's look at the average DPS this time to see the what performs better. Brain Hacker 56.7 DPS @ 2.1 speed. You'll swing 0.63 seconds faster - giving you a 1.47 delay. Brain Hacker has a DPS value of 80.9 during the duration of this buff. A 58.55% increase. Arcanite Reaper 53.8 DPS @ 3.8 speed. You'll swing 1.14 seconds faster - giving you a 2.66 delay. Arcanite Reaper has a DPS value of 76.9 DPS. A 42.93% increase. Brain Hacker by default already had 5.39% but only has a 5.2% dps increase after counting flurry. I remind you again that you should be swing timer kiting and shouldn't be trading Auto-Attacks with your target, flurry proccing giving you a 1.47 delay makes this impossible and you'll take more damage in return. In regards to "overkill" in PVP. You can't go based off of crits. You should perform whatever ability is needed to drop them assuming a non-crit without sacrificing kill time to allow your target to obtain another global and possibility turning the tides of the battle on you. In a group PVP setting, your goal is to burst the kill target to sub 20% and let the warrior execute ASAP. - 
	
	
				What happened to the Nost character data?
Undertanker replied to Barcs's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
Continue to check for any other account names. Many people including myself have different account names now due to issues they may have experienced attempting a transfer with their first created account. - 
	
	
				What happened to the Nost character data?
Undertanker replied to Barcs's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
No there was not. Perhaps you used a different account name. Logon to the control panel with any other accounts you may have created during this process to view if any toons are on said account here: https://elysium-project.org/control PS: Once you get yourself situated, if your previous guild isn't still kicking, and you are a NA time, hit me up. - 
	
	
				In Response to the Zeth'kur news.
Undertanker replied to jmul1212's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
Not all guilds are out of MC, farming BWL. Guilds from all 3 demographics (OC/EU/NA) are recruiting to either complete their MC roster while they clear ZG, or are building up to start BWL. If you want the progression like feel, that is available to you. My comment above was specific to a person that stated he'd be too far "behind" his peers while he is SUPER bad ass with 3/8 T1 atm. @Flyheal You do know that Tier level discrepancy is MUCH MUCH lower in Vanilla than later WoW expansions right? Tiered content does not become obsolete when next content drops like retail. Molten Core offers items that are apart of BiS sets through AQ (not released yet) or until C'Thun. You don't just melt people because you got 3, 5, 8 BWL items compared to your Ony/MC items. 3 minute mages are made in MC (expect ZG heart which caster dps are typically prio). Rogues can stomp you naked (#RogueCraft). Certain classes use T1 / MC off-set items / World drops in slots over BWL PVE specific items for PVP. - 
	I KeK'ed.
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				What happened to the Nost character data?
Undertanker replied to Barcs's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
During relaunch and when Nost was working behind the scene with Elysium there as a Character Transfer process using a Token system. Nost pulled out of the partnership towards the end of 2016, and soon after the Token system was no longer supported on their end. Those whom did not transfer their toons during this time have their old account/characters forever stuck on the Nost database, to never be retrieved for the unforeseeable future. There was approximately a 2.5-3 week window where transfers were possible. - 
	https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/21792-leveling-a-warrior/?do=findComment&comment=239964 This should help. Also Mining / Blacksmithing are primary professions. You do not need to drop them to learn your secondary professions: Fishing / Cooking / First Aid. You can have all 3 secondary professions and 2 primary professions at the same time. I recommend reading my full post and bookmarking it somewhere to revert back to while leveling for talent allocation and weapon selection.
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				Elysium server is not PvP...
Undertanker replied to Jdude2021's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
Another example of how everybody thinks people in 2005/6 were retards, writing notes on stone walls. You do know math was a thing 12 years ago. It wasn't hard to "know" that 40 str 1 crit and 40 AP set bonus > 20 str, 20 agi. 2 is a bigger and better number than 1 in terms of stats. This isn't a new concept. Topics ranging from every aspect of the game ensure to belittle the IQ levels of the past. From PVP topics like this, People didn't know R13 and R14 was good, or caster 2 set bonus... yeah ok.... Or topics on raiding, "people didn't speed run because there was no realmplayers", yeah again wrong. But then why are their guides on how to Speed Up Molten Core? Or people didn't bother raiding with full buffs and what not, yet the majority of videos of raid encounters from back then have raids with full buffs. Or did warriors not know that stacking AP and STR is better than stacking more Int/Spirit? The PVP system for Vanilla was always to limit the amount of R14s to no more than 1 per faction per 1 week. Just because the caps on servers where not as high as they are here doesn't mean there wasn't a lot of people active. Blizzard's first quarter numbers stated 800,000 subscriptions on 80 servers. The person who tried the hardest, put in the most effort, ect. Only if they continue to hold that same R14 spot for multiple weeks does the ranking system then start to be more painful. The honor cap is SUPER high right now, yes. One of R14s honor capped his last week at 845,000 around November of 2015 when there was always 9K+ players. A large portion of ranking community were doing things correctly back then. You create a scheduled list of whom is to hit R14, and you create a reachable benchmark for honor of what that should be. You take turns hitting that honor cap and if you are not up next for R14 and caught getting additional honor you were out of the circle. This system works, it allows you to set the cap, and keeps high rank enough out of reach from the casual player-base. What caused the honor cap to more than double? Greed, character selling, and entitlement. Rather than joining the ranking community and participating in the circle of alternating Rank 13/14s with a modest honor cap, people didn't want to wait "their turn". They would go beyond the set cap for their rank, causing a domino effect of people above them to do the same to ensure the line wasn't broken. Character selling is a HUGE factor of why the honor cap is high. The biggest jump in 1 week honor cap went from 845,000 honor to 1,200,000 in 1 week. Certain demographics known for out of game exchanges had set a new honor cap well beyond what was used for months. By comparison with retail, I was an active PVPer on my mage on a very busy server (750 queues on raid nights), the honor cap was around 900,000 post Naxx. Having a full time job, it wasn't something I could reach. But I still had fun. Besides isn't that a little of the reason why we are here? If you are always chasing the carrot on the end of the stick, you'll never enjoy the journey you took to get it. - 
	
	
				GDKP MC + ONY COMING SOON.
Undertanker replied to Testlord's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
I too do not understand how this would cause a server to RIP. Though seems a little early into the server life for this. This would make more sense when your server is in later content such as AQ and Naxx. Let's say your guild no longer does MC beyond bindings runs, but you are wanting a BRE, Band of Accuria, Cautering Band, Wildgrowth Shoulders, Onslaught Girdle, ToeP, quick strike bow, so on... you can invest much time farming gold and then go into one of these runs to lock up that BiS, 2nd BiS item you've been chasing for a LONG time. It gives reasons for other players who are over geared and don't need anything to still come and participate as another means of farming gold while keeping entry level raids active. I know in earlier expansions of WoW I would have simply raid logged the highest tier raid if it wasn't for GDKP runs. If handled correctly I don't see an issue. If you get any reports of misbehavior, and was intentional action you should be banned. - 
	
	
				<Nidvardir> did a 20 min Strat Undead. We challenge you to beat our time.
Undertanker replied to Flexi's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
During my Rep farming for Agent Dawn I spam ran this place while gearing people, eventually we would just do guild mount runs - never saw one. I found mages slowed me down after a few pulls they'd need to stop. My preferred setup was - Driud healer, Warlock, Fury Warrior, Rogue, Prot Warrior - myself. The mana rejen of the druid being able to keep the warlocks mana full by pairing up life tap, fury warrior using WW + a cleave can help the warlock a lot on 3-4+ mob pulls, rogue focus fire and blade fury on CD. Warlock can keep paranoia up. Without using world buffs, or any consumables other than are in party buffs we could get the instance cleared with 22ish minutes on the clock left so a 23 min run - was our fastest. Normally my runs with this group comp we'd have around 17 min+ remaining. - 
	
	
				Protection Paladin Aggro!
Undertanker replied to killerduki's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
You can buy the book for Quel'Serrar . - 
	
	
				<Thundercats> [A] Tues / Thurs 10:00 EST
Undertanker replied to Undertanker's topic in Guild Recruitment
Bump. - 
	
	
				Diremaul Last Boss North (King) Prevent Bug Abuse.
Undertanker replied to killerduki's topic in General Discussion & Suggestions
The DMT farming is fixed income outside of shards and major mana potions (which would be much cheaper if they could farm it again). You have no clue what I farm and call it unreliable. The majority of what I do farm are things that are much lower level and I can 2-3 shot. The majority of what I farm increases in server demand 5 fold with AQ and Naxx. My 50g per hour will be a lot more in later content, and will increase with inflation. While pickpocket farming and vendoring blues will always remain the same. So......... you were saying? 
