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And I can clarify even more: Even *IF* (haven't tested / checked myself) Elysium page had the option to retrieve Nost characters (doubt), it is impossible, 'cause Viper & Co broke the token generator from Nost page.

-ironforge - Military ward - War effort commander. Talk to him --> see Alliance progress & combined progress

This. And again, this. Instead of being dying, it probably is the most used & most secure server Os worldwide.

Best things to do: 1: Check the items that are highly overpriced on one faction's AH, and underpriced on anohers, then put them on neutral AH for a price that's between the 2 pricelevels. That way IF you get the trade done without being AH sniped, you get more money on one side, and a good moneymaker on another (remember to price so that it's high enough to make money, but low enough to cover the AH cut). IF you get sniped, you still have made money from neutral AH more then your own faction AH. or 2: Put plain gray items on AH on the side you want the gold to move to, and overprice them. Nobody will snipe grays if you pay more then get from vendoring. Bad part is, you have to pay a huge cut for the friggin goblins. (ah cut)

Or go to lower zone, and farm low level mobs, pref humanoids. Even gearless you get low level mobs killed with fair amount of time, and you get stuff to sell, stuff to put AH, and occasionally a usable green item. Hell, due levelling professions my 36 druid is allways broke, I just go farm syndicate members for a while, and usually make at least 2g/hour just by looting those coppers & selling gray items. and yes, the mobs I grind are 7 to 12 levels lower for maximum uptime.

...."imgur.com" pathetic. You just proved my point on that page from the part of "Well researched" (Though you're spot on with "Big" & "Fat". You should also add word "Black" Though that would be kinda racist). I mean, if somene with your social age can use a program so difficult as mspaint (*douh*), how can you believe ANYTHING you saw from either sides of this shitfest? Ignoring your posts from now on m8, being this old gives me a privilege to do so if I feel like it. That's exactly the thread I was referring at. Though tbh, neither of you seemed to be umm.. "Having a civil conversation with well-thought arguments & criticism". What I'm saying is the same I've told my wife over 10 years ago; "It really is not about the shit you're trying to pour over me, it's the way you do it". Giving me a towel to clean it up after it's done get's much better response then just leaving it there. (And to those who just don't give a fuck; Yes, we're still married..) For example our beloved Alex: Instead of "no, lol's" & "u deserve all this"'es and other shit, he coulda brought facts up in civil manner, maby even so far to first send all information / leaks to Shenna and wait a bit to see is anything fixed. Maby even ask a public reply. That way he would have gotten a reputation of "Geesh, he really DOES value vanilla & has good conserns" instead of "public-whore & dramaqueen". Yes, he'd have less youtube views that way, but the reputation would have been better.

Well my friend, since everyone before me has failed on trying to get anything through that thick skull of yours (no offence, but your message history? *geesh*...), I thought I'll take a shot too. Definition of Critisism(main article): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism The kinda critisism that actually goes somewhere: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism#Good Alexensuals, and most loud ppl's critisism here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism#Lousy And tbh, yours too has more bullseyes from the second category (lousy) then first one. You're not bad compared to Alex though, 'cause if you compare all his "critisism" ever since from the day one of this shitstorm, it has 8/9 hits to the lousy category, and 0/7 to good.

From a moral standpoint? A) NOT TO PROMISE ANYTHING ON STREAM. B) Shove it up, and let the donations be where they were intended. Yes, it *has* at least 50 shades of grey, but still, on moral perspective: No matter how much you are lied at, no matter *what* the "facts" were, you make a promise, you FCKING keep it. Yes, you bitch about it, you ragequit, you start flamewars, but you GODDAMNIT keep the promise, no matter what. Why? because you ARE a "public person", AND made that promise FOR your public. *edit* typo.

Oh, I did. That's what I mean with the genuine concerns. What I mean with the "Calm manner", is the REAL shitstorm that hit after his "I-play-GOD-and-refund-the-money-I-collected" - post. What people seem to forget, is he would NEVER have collected THAT amount of money without his promise to donate Elysium. First he gains personal profit (that 20%) way more then he normally does by promising donation, then he refunds, and *probably* gets even more money by doing so, 'cause many many ppl think that "Well, it's just 5 bucks, doesn't matter that much". That sounds "Calm manner" to anyone?

Genuine concerns? Checked - Confirmed - Agreed. ..In a calm manner - Checked - lolled-as-hell-for-this-one - Busted. Yes, Shit has hit the fan peeps. But if Shenna's post (waiting for Alex's reply..) is correct, It's totally Alexensual's fault. If Elysium staff has tried to chat/reason with Alex-not-so-sensual and his reply has been just trollollollol - like, then he really deserves all shit that's dropping on him.

Basically, this. He has nooooo clue, OR interest to find it out, that it has allways been this way. Feds have done it several times (mitchik, anyone), Big security companies do it (Remember back at 80-90's when the swedish kid hacked the FBI? Got a "do-not-come-here-or-else" - statement from US gov, AND a well-payed job as a security consult in France, who's job IS to hack into systems.). It just is & allways has been, that in IT the bad guys just ARE better then good guys on what they do. (On what they do, as in the best at hacking THAT particular thing etc etc) Alex just wants fucking drama & more clicks in Twitter/Youtube, and his 15 more minutes of fame. Alex: Feel free to ban me anytime m8. You were a Torch Carrier at some point, yesterday you just became the ultimate "DramaQueen of 2017". Quite an achi, considering it's just Febuary... https://twitter.com/MrGmReviews/status/832239282119200771

Well, having my drood only at 19, haven't seen that many horde members yet that I'd actually even *try* to attack, but I still can confirm that some druids DO honor the code at Zet'hKur. Was in Lakeshire farming leather and witnessed a skull - level druid beat the crap out of a paladin, salute me, and run away. Nope, neither me or the pala did anything to provoke the druid; it was just like a traditional "oh look, a gankable lowbie --> a dead lowbie" for the poor pala, and no interest whatsoever to try to kill me.

Goddamnit, after reading these posts, I'm suddenly *NOT* feeling so old anymore. 37 here, and addicted to Vanilla since -05.

Agreed with the no - comments. This is vanilla. The client is 1.12.1, NOT for the reason OP might think (updates better then earlier, ftw..), but the simple fact that if client was ie. 1.4, and Elysium would add 1.5, it would be a total trollfest in forums by ppl trying to find the 1.5 patch somewhere. Not to mention if Elysium would provide the patch (I mean the CLIENT patch), it would *really* вау up the domain and maby servers while all (probably atm over 100 000?) players would try to download it. So no, client patch 1.12.1 with earlier server content is best. P.S. After thinking it for a while, there is just *one* thing I'd change here. If the old Outland from Alpha is still in the maps (Dunno, know just that it was in game files some point in Vanilla...), I'd make it a 60lvl-only PvP area with no objects or rules; other then GY's having small areas where you'd be flagged to no pvp to prevent gy camping, and portals accessible only at 60 from SW / Ogr. Know that's not Blizzlike, aswell as it's never ever ever gonna happen; was just wondering with "what would I change if I had the power" - mentality....

Well, I believe that just about any 2FA authentication software will do, and if you have Windows 10 as your main OS, just search for Authenticator from windows Store. Haven't tested myself yet, but *think* that would work. The only bad thing is, you are sort-of-like "PC-locking" yourself too... *edit* Well, at least the 2FA authenticator that pops up seems to work, Can't test 100% because get stuck (like many more) to "Access Denied" - window.

Well, you *think this isn't constructive, but it is..* Not gonna happen. Locking your exp didn't occur untill WoTLK. Came with this dude: http://www.wowhead.com/npc=35365/behsten Elysium (like Nost previously) have stated several times that they try to make it as Blizzlike as possible. Bugs aside, that's what the recent fixes (oils, buffs etc "locked" untill 1.9 hits) also point, so suggesting a feature from 3.2.0 is kinda pointless. It is Vanilla, it will be Vanilla, and quite frankly, I like it as Vanilla. You want to have endless twink massacres, go search a 3.2.0++ server, the feature you request isn't gonna happen here.

well after googling, here *should* be one. http://i.imgur.com/5zXv2Tb.jpg Personally, that *would* look pretty good, but untill Pottu (or someone else) confirms that the "addon" is allowed in Elysium servers, I'd stay away from it. Reason for that is those custom dll's...

Well, since I actually know (first proof here, dig up the rest proofs from an old thread at nost forums, around 19 pages......--> http://kuvauppi.fi/view/output/GUID/44C79600-C920-C9E5-5621-614D7B5BF080/size/default/untitled.jpg) that Nost was payed till June 16, so why would it be plugged down due "debt" in april. Also, why would Blizz go through the PR stunt AND the bad reputation, when they coulda just say "Lol, it wasn't us peeps."

- Decorating for christmas - Tuning UI on rebirth - Ocasionally playing World of Tanks Bliz (where I suck..) - Re-building my Linux server inside an old military ammunition box

It works well, just set realmlist right and you're good to go. I never deleted my old nost install, and it worked well last test too. (and on other servers where i've been killing time waiting for ressurrection..)

Agreed. This. Will. Be. Epic.

Offtopic, but I gotta ask: Pottu U from Finland? Both your name & avatar refer to that direction, Pottu meaning a potato, and avatar reflecting typical Finnish mentality.