cybaster

When they cap player count at 10k, arguably the least Blizzlike change on this server, people cheer. But when they fix a development oversight that was being abused to crank out way more gold per hour than is healthy for the server, the screams of "not blizzlike" ring out. Don't try to rationalize that things were okay the way they were, because anyone could do it. That's really the problem. Unchanged, everyone has to roll a hunter and фекал gold at an accelerated rate in DM: North, or they can't afford to buy with the same purchasing power of someone who does farm this way. Everything about hot spots like this is bad. You cannot have disproportionately lucrative instanced content that can be soloed. The rate at which this kind of thing can accelerate inflation when allowed to fester is like, money cancer or something. A big bloated tumor strangling the rest of the economy. Don't try to pretend there's some ethos behind your frustration with this change. It's just greed.

what is going on in here?? im telling mom on you guys

Damn! I was expecting an inflammatory, knee jerk response. You've defeated me by being reasonable. Merry christmas!

So excited! You guys are doing great. This was earlier than anyone rational expected.

They're ahead of schedule?! Will wonders never cease? This puts my plans behind schedule! Gah!

Meanwhile, the old guard on the PVP server spends all day ganking level 20's, thusly ensuring their server will never again be considered by players as a possible destination to start on. How ironic!

What do you want this tool for? Might it have something to do with poisoning the newbie battlegrounds with twinks that have the best in slot for that bracket in every single slot?

I'd be okay waiting another month or two if it meant shedding the manchildren. They aren't really needed for a good experience. Quite the opposite, really.

If you want to give gold sellers some grief, make their instanced safespaces less profitable than open world farming. Step 1. Figure out how much gold per hour you, as GMs and devs who can actually see the money flying around, want a single level 60 player to get soloing any instance of any kind. Establish this amount as an upper limit, and make sure this upper limit is worse than open world farming. Step 2. Enforce this limit by both ruthlessly culling gold and valuables from any instanced content that can be solo'd and breaks this limit, and by making encounters and treasure previously attainable by one person insurmountable without a party, on a case by case basis. Let the gold farmers figure this out for you. Just watch their movements in the logs and nerf the фекал out of everything they do. Step 3. Offset these changes by placing all the phat, blizzlike loots you had to pull from their rightful place into into bosses that take 5 players. Step 4. Remember that the screams of "ITS NOT VANILLA!!!!" are, 9 times out of 10, all coming from individuals who all want to bend your server's economy over a barrel. Ignore their screams, nod knowingly at the human tendency to lie to get what you want, and remember that your normal players for the most part won't even acknowledge the change, because it doesn't affect their playstyle. If you can be so thorough that the prison labor farmers actually start migrating out into the open for a week or two before they're annihilated by your player base (particularly on PVP servers), your servers win the golden-veined dong stature of bulging economic health!

I'm glad you asked, angry frog man. The truth is that, unlike the flaming hyperboles we tend to resort to in these threads, gold sellers - and hold on to your skullcaps for a moment, as this might blow one or two people's minds - is that gold farmers do all of the above. I don't actually believe the knuckleheads who press the "ACCOUNTS CAN BE STOLEN THEREFORE UR IDEA IS INVALID" button in these convos actually believe that this is the only way - or even the primary way - gold farmers get their gold. An account can only be stolen once. Dire Maul was being hosed 24/7 by armies. Anyone who can deny that is either completely broken, mentally, or is simply bullshitting due to ulterior motives.

Look at all those Step 4's in my thread. My goodness!

I don't have one, and I don't need one. Forcing them to play normally without bots and without specific, highly efficient targets to farm within instances is a win condition because they will no longer be producing gold at a massively accelerated rate relative to what normal players find. They will not be able to price their gold attractively if they aren't making much more than you and I. Mind you, I don't believe there is such a thing as stopping RMT. But you can strangle it into crippled weakness.

I hope the devs continue this trend to such a degree of severity that it becomes uniformly less effective for a soloing level 60 to get gold from instances than from open world farming. Purge the safe spaces where the bots and human drones reside, and suddenly gold sellers will have to fight real players to make ends meet. That's an apocalyptic scenario for someone making a living off of parasitizing a videogame economy, particularly on PVP servers.

They're cock blocking the instanced gold farming sources most favored by gold sellers. I cannot think of a better strategy to strangle those people on a server where they cannot make ends meet outside of instances due to extreme population and murder squads (on two our of three servers). It's one of the few changes to the original I'm glad to accept. It's a minor annoyance for real players like you and me and a catastrophic problem for those economy spoiling degenerates.

You've got moxie! *squirtle water guns you up and down, erotically*

They'll collectively shut up when the queues are gone. They're inarticulate wastrels who are incapable of venting impatience in a civilized manner, and they only ever feel motivated to grunt and howl when they're waiting in line. You need to see every single trash post as a sub-human expression of frantic impatience. It doesn't matter what any of the posts are about, because they're all animal noises. Then everything starts making sense.

plz don't discriminate against my pokekin lifestyle, my needs are as valid as yours, squirtle squir! If you want to make threads like this even more enjoyable, imagine in vivid detail the scenarios described and hinted at by the delightful people in this thread. But take the persona they want to embody or project, and replace it with an actual, likely depiction of how they look and are built IRL. YUM YUM

lvl 12 squirtle looking 4 discipline from a stern pokemon master at least 4 badges plz, serious inquiries only

And I'm not being sarcastic. Public interest is overwhelming, the devs and GM teams are clearly poop-socking it, and Blizzard, the wildcard in this scenario, is allowing public endorsement of the project on their own official forums within the classic thread. That tolerance is a strong indicator that they're using us to gauge the viability of official classic servers. The whole situation is kind of unprecedented for a private server, let alone a relaunch of one. Chaos and queue times are throbbing symbols of vitality, and DDOSes do nothing but further galvanize classic-lovers against "them". And @ Elysium/Nost teams specifically, keep fighting like beasts. Don't slow down, and laugh at negativity directed at you. We love you! Also, maybe consider a PvE fresh server, if this overflow keeps up. This is big, and you've gotta' be big, too.

They hate for exactly as long as they're in queue, and no longer.

Considering the unprecedented demand, two fresh servers really a good idea.

It isn't nearly high enough to offset the abnormal quest bottlenecks created by servers with many thousands more players than intended. The word "blizzlike" does not apply here, and never did. You can't invoke it. Unless you're cool with reducing the player cap to "blizzlike"... I fully support the OP's suggestion. Noobie quests like pick x apples from my tree need respawns as rapid as monsters.

This is obviously a response to gold sellers exploiting DM aggressively. That was a well known problem back on live. It's a good change.

I stand in support of anti RMT measures such as this. Strangle them by whatever means necessary.

The crestfall (prospective) member base is pretty much above mud slinging and sabotage.