Snowtime

I'm talking in maximum potential sanger, not total dps.

For PvE: Hunters and melee dps are pretty much the same and caster dps is a little bit lower but everything else is manageable. The only other hurdle i think we will face is vsing hiegen the unclean but that is so far away that i wouldn't worry. I mean, it's not ideal but it's still perfectly playable and after awhile you kinda forgot its there (until you pvp).

I thought this was a fake screencap but it is hilarious that it is real.

This is hilarious. Honestly i'm just amazed by how many MMO markets these guys are into at the same time.

You can Cata.

Being rage starved has always been part of low level tanking. And nobody said the pulls have to always be clean. As long as you have the main target, and pref the 2nd target on you and As long as the 3rd or 4th aren't on the healer it's not the end of the world. But also, as long as they are on you for the first 3-4 seconds you should have the ability to tank them all assuming you are using marks and your dps are not retarded. Dungeon elites do not hit that hard until like lvl 40. The best you can do is ask for 2-3 seconds on each pull, as long as you get the initial aggro you should be fine. Also i believe that on nost, battle shout only applies threat on the initial application.

If you're interested in bumping it on the bug tracker. https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/749 This really puts horde premades at a bigger disadvantage, and maybe the 1/10 shaman that actually drops WF totem in pug pvp.

The guild was active throughout the week with many in game activities being organised outside of raid nights. Was fun. Looking forward to the costume contests again.