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Anathema is the place to be. Silithus is an active PvP zone with bonus group quests. No devilsaur mafia. MC is released. BWL is released. AQ is released, and most guilds are still progressing. ZG is released and pugs run all the time. AQ20 is released and pugs run all the time. People forget that just because we have MORE raids released that we still run all of them!

We all have a vested interest in keeping our respective server alive. If you play on Elysium, you shill for Elysium. If you play on Anathema, you shill for Anathema. The mistake is not playing on Anathema or playing on Elysium, the mistake was giving people the choice between two different vanilla servers within the same project. The only option people should have been give was between a PvE & PvP server. We're all seeing the effects of split servers now. Nost peaked at 13k people, there aren't even 13k people peak combined on all servers. What I'm proposing in an ideal world is an increased timeline for Elysium to bring it up to Naxx level a bit quicker than normal. Trust me you don't want to farm BWL for 7 months before you even have a shot at completing the War Effort, it was brutal. The only reason people didn't complain about timelines in retail was because people were generally speaking pretty bad at the game because we didn't have a mountain of information on each boss. BWL took a couple months for Nef to die, AQ took a couple months for Cthun to die, etc. By the time you killed an end boss the next patch was only a few months away.

I think you're worried about something that is inevitable. Things that weren't known in 2006: Every boss strat, perfect itemization, exact consumes needed for each boss. Things that are known in 2017: Everything. Don't be butt hurt when WAY more guilds than you expect do 8/15 or more of Naxx. Naxx needs to be made Blizzlike, and that is exactly what the Dev team is aiming to do. Calm your tits, Naxx has been being worked on for a month+ now. It will come out, and it will be as close to blizzlike as we can get.

Video or it didn't happen.

Welcome to logical fallacies, enjoy your stay: Here is yours https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope One small change doesn't mean they're going to start selling Thunderfury's next week. This was a non core change that only effects people's ability to participate in pvp more often, it still costs gold, stop acting like they said they mail you a free pony every time you respec.

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/47339-pvp-scene-community-feedback/

I meant that if you respec once you're going to respec twice to go back to your PVE spec. 25+25 =50 per week up from what most people were doing which is 0+0=0. People on private servers don't queue for bgs if they're PVE spec. The reason the community forum was added by the staff was because not enough people were participating in bgs or wpvp. This is how you solve it. People spend gold on consumes in 2017. Top guilds barely consumed in retail. That doesn't leave much room for respecing. Also you're acting like they said it was free or 5g like K2. 50g is still a lot of gold to respec twice a week for most people. It's not free but it's not low. This is a great middle ground.

You realize half the people on each server weren't respecing at all because it costs 100g a week + raid consumables if you're on Anathema where you have more to do than just MC for 32 minutes. Just because YOU will save money because you already respec'd twice a week doesn't mean there aren't 2000 people who are going to go from spending 0g a week on respecs to spending 50g a week on repecs. Last I checked spending 50g is more than spending 0g.

Yes only R14 weapons are having life time requirements changed. (AND THIS IS 100% BLIZZLIKE) In 1.11 new items are added to the R14 weapon pool including: A healing mace, a caster dagger, daggers, and a fast offhand. All of the above items are equal to C'thun and high level Naxx weapons. Just because you ran around WSG in pre-raid for 2 months doesn't mean you should have gear better than top raid guilds killing C'thun and clearing Naxx.

Blizzard did. So we traded a change that will encourage more people to respec and queue BG's and go out in the world to PvP which is unblizzlike but actually nice... for a change that is actually Blizzlike meaning people that went to R14 in MC don't just get free C'thun level healing weapons/spell damage daggers/and 1.8 speed off hands for free. These changes get Elysium closer to Blizzlike and encourages more people to join the PvP pool. Can't complain about that! :D (Unless you're just salty that you won't have BiS PvE gear for literally ever because you spent 2 months running around WSG. People clearing C'thun should have better gear than someone who afk'd BGs for 20 hours a day, fact.)

Good change. +1 A gold sink isn't sinking any gold if you don't respec at all. People will respec more now and actually queue for BGs or go out into the world to PvP. More gold deleted from the server due to respecing, more active BGs and wPvP. Good luck convincing me otherwise that this is bad.

Also.. A server with 3500 pop is not the same as a retail server with 3500 pop. The population on private servers are segmented into different player bases depending on the region of the world you live in, unlike retail where everyone on the server is in the same time zone. A 3500 pop private server really has to be divided by 3 to account for your local population (AKA the people you have the ability to play with long term) and then 2 to account for Horde or Ally. ------ Math: So for each different region, NA, EU, and CN you take peak population = 3500 Number of regions = 3 Number of factions = 2 Total people you can play with for raiding/long term = 3500 / (2 + 3) = 700 That is ALL you can play with realistically at peak times, you have 700 people in your time zone and faction that you could join a guild with. The average guild has 40-60 people in it so that means there is a grand total of: 700 / 60= ~11 guilds on your faction / local region that you can join. This number is not bad, but with a guild or two in your region RIP'ing every few weeks by the time naxx comes out there will be 7 or 8 guilds max left in your specific time zone. We need some way to draw more pop to Anathema going forward. Naming "Elysium" after the project name really fucked the original Nost players. Since people seem to be obsessed with 'fresh' and hear 'Elysium Project' and automatically play on the Elysium server. ------

Jesus fucking Christ how the hell do you have almost 9000 posts on the Elysium forums? Also we're the best Alliance guild from North America. The only other guild on ally that's up with us is Coalition, from Europe.

+ = Prot Warrior DFT. Gz Fervent!

[Alliance] Lorilay <Scuba Cops> can now do +20 Frost Power to gloves. Our current list of AQ enchants is: +20 Shadow Power Gloves (Stavis), -2% Threat on Cloak (Stavis), +20 Frost Power Gloves (Lorilay)

Bump, I think this is a great idea still.

I'm not sure you fully grasp the logistics of 'just opening' and 'just merging' servers. There is a lot of planning that goes into this type of stuff and it isn't easy by any means. Also the population is already slightly suffering on Anathema due to the number of people who were given the option to reroll on Elysium (I still stand by the idea that this was a terrible decision to open a fresh server to begin with). So the idea of opening a new server every 6 months and 'just merging' the old ones together makes absolutely no sense. Need a GM up in here soon TM to say no and lock this thread. 0/10 idea

Scuba Cops has 2 Thunderfury's now. Two bindings since Nostalrius relaunch! (RIP Zetox, would've been 3 Thunderfury's)

Bump. LF good players. Priest, Pally, Druid, and Tanks!

That's up to you. Would you like to wait for Naxx in 1.5 years, or would you like to see it in 6 months? Some people might enjoy the longevity that Elysium provides giving them a 'home' for the better part of 2 years, others like you (and many others from what I gather) are annoyed with the fact that BWL is still 4 months away, AV isn't out yet, ZG isn't for 9 months, AQ not for 1 year, Naxx not for 1.5 years. It's a long way back to reroll on Elysium if you played on Nostalrius. Nost was on the verge of AQ, and now we have it, all the freshies are now realizing they gave up over a year of progression and patches when re-maining on Elysium. A big mistake that many are realizing, but I'm sure a good amount are brand new players too. It's just the fact that anything before ZG pretty much sucked hard in vanilla, there isn't anything to do besides PvP in BRM, raid for 2 hours a week, and the gear from MC/Ony sucks. ZG and AQ both bring with it PUG'able 20 mans, more advanced gearing, enchanting, recipes, etc. Opens the world up to being more active in multiple zones, the list goes on. The further the patches progressed the more things there were to do in Azeroth. You won't find any 60's outside of BRM or capital cities on Elysium right now, and that's kinda lame.

Reduced Respec cost & look at merging the realms. (Accelerate the patches on Elysium to catch up to AQ in 4-5 months or something). Or allow open xfers to Anathema.

Reduced respec cost. The only advice I would give to encourage people to PvP is reduce respec cost. I'm a staunch advocate for 100% Blizzlike features but the only thing I would ever bend for would be reduced respec costs to make it super easy for people to switch between raid and PvP at will. Kronos did this and most people respec'd 5-6 times per week since it was so cheap. I'm aware you probably will say no to this but since you were looking for suggestions I figured I'd suggest something people probably want.

I don't care how good you think this weapon is for a stupid prot paladin, when you full clear AQ40 as main tank post another thread. Otherwise your points don't matter. "Look a class that generates threat can tank a T1 instance"

Bump

Now with double the Thunderfury action! Congratz to Fahbulous for becoming our 2nd tank with TF!