Glenzig

There is currently no fresh start pve server planned at all. The fresh server will be a pvp server. The 2 servers opening on the 17th wi be the 2 servers that Nostalrius ran before they were shut down. There will be Nost pvp, and Nost pve. On the 25th they will announce the launch date of Elysium. The fresh PVP server.

Yeah. Every server I've played has the same message. Just ignore it. It's just the defAult message.

Don't share account info.

That's my point. You think a 30 minute timer would be better. I think it would be worse. Both of us have different ideas of what better is.

Better. It's a very subjective word.

Yeah. It was a mess. I played hunter on pvp and I had hoped to try this quest at some point. I started looking into it and found out about the list. Pretty much knew I would never get that bow at that point. That's ok though. It's an epic item. It should take epic effort.

Honestly. Unless the server date was like 5 minutes after the announcement, I doubt it.

Agreed. Problemme is its already blizzlike. Timers are blizzlike. Mechanics are blizzlike. That's what I'm saying. Any argument past a 3hr spawn timer, since that's what has been confirmed as blizzlike, would be an argument about how it may or may not have been handled by blizzard with a pop the size of Nost. No one really knows. It's not an argument with a solid basis. That's why I was saying, from a development point of view, you would have to have a really solid argument to get me to change it from what it is.

Pretty much just semantics. Whether as an argument for fairness, or overall experience, the argument proposed is the same.Also, I never used the word fairness in my post. Not sure why you came back with that?

You can see why that's a dangers argument to make though right? If one class says that it should be accessible to everyone that plays that class because it's part of the experience, then that argument will start to ease it's way into the other class quests/loot/dropped items/rare mobs.And the precident will have already been set with the leaf quest. Because they made sure that everyone who played a hunter was able to have the experience of completing the quest. Look at it from the point of view of a developer. Wold you accept this as an argument if you were running a vanilla server? Is this really a convincing enough argument to change a spawn mechanic that has already been changed previously?

If you were able to do all that stuff without completing the leaf quest, do you really NEED to get the bow? The fact that there are a crap ton of Hunters on Nost, because it's a very easy class to play and farm with, doesnt mean all of them deserve an epic bow. Doesn't mean that the quest should be tailored to everyone's individual needs either. From what I've seen, there is evidence that the spawn timer was 3 hours in vanilla. Well, there you go, it's 3 hours on Nost also. What argument that isnt, "too many in line", or "I don't wanna wait my turn" can anyone give to convince that staff to change it again? I think it would have to be really, really convincing. So far, no one's making anything close to that type of argument.

Why is this thread still open. Absolutely nothing constructive coming from either side in the last 4-5 pages. Please lock.

No.

Yes. I muse admit, I didn't really care all that much when I first heard the announcement. I was just kind of like "oh ok. Cool." But I'm actually very excited to get back on the PvE server. Don't k ow how active I will be able to be, but still excited.

Actually....that's exactly how the automotive industry works. They'll always just get bailed out and they know it.

Oh for sure. It's all about nost coming back first. Above all else. I read the initial announcement on the timeline and was really excited, and my preferred realm was slotted to be launched last (PvE ). If they decide to push pve to the back again and release fresh in its place, I still wouldn't complain. Honestly. I'm just glad to be able to piddle around vanilla wow again at some point.

If they made you change the name, why would you think you could get it back?

No. Us old Nost players do not have a right to act entitled. We played on an enormously popular private server. That doesn't make us special. We didn't create the database.

Yeah. We all know this. The staff have openly stated this. Population balance.

Pve will have the biggest pop by far. They'll probably have to make at leaSt 4 pve servers with 8k pop on each. Did a quick poll in my head. We all agreed.

I'm saying......yes.

They can. Maybe. It would be a logistical nightmare. Point is, they arent. Not much can be done about that. We don't run their lives. They want more time to launch the fresh server correctly. And they also want to spend time with their families during holiday vacation, just like the rest of us. Give them a small little tiny break for providing you with a free quality server to play on. Regardless of whether you get it this week or next month. Show a little gratitude, and a lot less attitude.

There is no delay on the fresh server. It was always slated to release 2-3 weeks after Nost 2.0. There is a huge misconception that it has been delayed. People's opinion of the release progression has changed since they bumped up the PvE realm. It's true, we do t k ow the exact date yet. Could be first week in January. Could be later. Either way, you'll get your fresh server. And when you do, you'll love it. Just be patient.

Refreshing to see this attitude from the PvE crowd.

Are you sure about that? Several people have stated their desire to severely shorten the spawn times because they feel they need the bow, but dont have the time to wait on spawns. I'm pretty sure that's why the whole thread was started.