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I see no motivation in having an option to copy my char into TBC server. Naxx gear sure lasts you up to kara and you proly clear it first few times using mostly t3 but beyond that its useless so it gives you very minor edge compared to amount of effort you have to put to get t3 in vanilla. Not to mention that having option to "go away" to tbc with your char would further the process of emptying the server after naxx. What I see as a good way to keep naxx cleared server alive is having group of active gms organizing live events maybe even working on implementing arena system into vanilla etc. Not to mention many people just despise TBC because its lack of world pvp (with tiny exceptions) and gameplay that ultimately prooved to turn into raidlogging very fast. Anyway its beside the point because right now server didn't even got to naxx (Anathema) and it lost like 80% of its player base due to various factors, some could be undone with proper decision making but i think its a lost case. It reignited for short time with AQ release but it just wasnt enough... and war effort was just bloody shameful when it comes to judging decision making potential.

Hunter: I'd type me but I've spent 2 hours yesterday running around felwood, winterspring and epl looking for world pvp, found 2 full pve-mode herb farmers that didn't fight back. I tried bgs but 42min queue. Can't be good if you get rusty cause there's no1 to fight. RIP vanilla.

Anathema is dead, too many people quit due to burnout and stupid management decisions then even more people quit as a result of loosing friends and it kinda spiraled down. And existence of Elysium kills any hope of ever getting Anathema back in shape cause we got no fresh blood, all new players join Elysium at this point. There was a time at the start when Anathema was equally worthy for new players (that wanted to get into experience aq or naxx earlier) but then balance of pop was Anathema 5-6k to Elysium 8-9k. Now that balance is like 800-2000 Anathema to 5-6k Elysium. No1 will join Anathema anymore. Anathema is left with shrinking community of grumpy old veterans that are: A) raidlogging B) having their niche of fun with some chosen friends and they don't care about rest of the server C) are not having fun anymore, login to idle in IF for 30min and logout pessimistic about server future but they won't quit cause 100+ days /played is too much to just throw away (me) At this point Anathema serves a purpose of being a test server for content that will be released probably in rough state for Anathema players to suffer it so that Elysium can get a polished thing later. So I'm not hoping to get a merge as we serve that useful purpose that benefit their main server which is Elysium.

Dude said that render distance might've been an issue so I assume he was chasing after someone and combat dropped off.

Doesn't matter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jVCHM58zbs pet leveling I used back when lupos was remotely useful on anathema

Its either invis pot, cloaking device, bg pop, getting summoned.

I bet you're a gypsy and ride a caravan... asshole

Now it is:) but there is no saying dates change with loss of 1 server and I guess dates are what we're after right? Unless nitpicking is the game.

So you actually had it blizz-like... I agree there is certain inconvenience when it comes to small brackets especially when br1 is occupied by not cooperative account sharers. But then on higher pop server you get 5 more groups like that, you have to stay awake 18 hours a day and its all bg spam, think of energy you gotta have to grind wsg with queues being <10seconds. Non stop grind. For months. And then your bracket leader miscalculates and you end up missing rp for your planned schedule of ranking. We all had it rough boys.

TL:DR the whole thing but as an ex-ranker from nost/anathema... I don't wanna be rude but it really shows you ranked on easymode bonanza server without any real competition. Let me tell you how we dealt with road blocks back then on 13k pop server: we buckled up and grinded one more week, or two if shit went real south. We took a hiatus from real life until done or burnt out. It was obvious you couldn't have it both ways. Edit: Many other servers would just accept one of their experiments died and leave you dry. So the fact that you have to grind up what you lost isn't a bad thing... not to mention that you enter higher pop server so there is a fair chance that if you had a parallel char ranking on it it would be lower rank that your zeth'kur char, because lets be honest zeth'kur wasn't exactly top of the world competition. I know every ranker consider his ranking time the MOST HARDCORE ever but you guys really had it easy, believe me on a word. Anyway as I said, you're a refugee so take your fate with dignity and work your way up. Many servers would just let you die.

Must be fun to be raid leader then... counting and calling out for all the noobs that refuse to download and use simple tools. I accept people arguments about addons being shit when they fail to create UI and layout they are comfortable with. But expecting people to count and call out timers just because u want to be a purist is a bit dickhead. No wonder so many guilds failed to clear AQ40 on anathema if they are filled with retards that expect challenge in that department. Tell me guys do you actually use keybinds or click with mouse because game isn't remotely hard enough to warrant fast reaction time? Heck do you even use mouse? Touchpad would do... go for it purists accept the challenge please. I love when people get fucked in pvp and whine they only lost because their opponent used macros and/or sick addons that he refuse to use because game isn't hard enough:)

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Yes, learning what given mechanic do... do you have LoS it? or stuck up with others? etc. But counting down in your head for every boss for every mechanic while doing your rotation and socializing with others? Thats a complete different story. I'd say if you went purist like that and wanted to remain a good raider aka not wipe due to counting mistakes you'd actually end up having way less fun cause your raids would be silent full of extremely focused mathematicians. There is a level of convenience that is in fact helping you having fun because it shifts your focus from boring things into more enjoyable. My opinion. I mean sure i can understand that UI that clumps up your screen and look like junkyard or excel sheet takes away from immersion but there are ways to make it look good and clean.

It would be outdated if it came out in a month like I said. If it comes in 8 days then it comes out according to timeline https://elysium-project.org/timeline

1.10 comes in a month. Naxx comes in 3 months. According to timeline

If you simply have to count down yourself for every boss mechanic that happens on flat time interval just so you don't wipe and waste tons of consumable gold, think for a moment: are you having fun? Or you just ignore mechanics are let those blast waves hit you because its obviously a healers problem? derp

Ah well Elysium is fresh realm so there is certain charm with those servers because everyone is a pioneer there. But on Anathema things are a bit stagnant. Let me tell you how i see those servers: If its progression server aka it goes from patch 1.3-1.12 content over months/years its only successful if it survives in good health up to naxx release and then sustain for a bit before dying out (due to end of the line issue). But what if vanilla servers die out and loose 90% of their population? in every single case I witnessed... literally I tried 5 big vanilla servers and played on them more or less actively and every server that tried to be "blizz-like" ends the same, it don't even get to naxx and 90% of the crew is off the board already. This is a fact by now after 10 years of vanilla private scene and it makes me wonder if its the fault of human error and people that managed those servers? That they couldn't handle bugs or made wrong decisions... ekhem war effort ekhm... that killed their servers before their time? Or maybe there is something in "vanilla" itself that is just not bound to survive. Thats what makes me thing vanilla is a bit pointless as it fails to sustain itself over its progressive course. To that end I think nowadays if "vanilla" server was to survive it'd have to be managed by creative people with energy to manage some events. Yea you heard right:) Custom events.

Yes, they lost their specific feats in patch 1.4

LFG tool was double edged blade. Sure it made you "group up" with just one click but the very common thing happened that is coded in human brain that tickle sense of achievement there. If something is easy you don't appreciate it and thus community turned into zombies that don't even say "hi" to each other when grouped via LFG. Honestly? If you don't put much effort into actively looking for company then YES u're going to be alone 95% of the time cause leveling is doable solo, grinding consumables is also soloable etc. It takes much of time and effort to have people around you all the time. Why effort? because sometimes u might need someone that is half a world away and since traveling is time consuming you need to actually be "important" enough to people you ask for help. So you must be helping them all the time, grinding dungeons you no longer need, helping them with attunements quests that also doesn't benefit you anyhow except for strengthening the bonds between players so they might come to help you with whatever u need in unknown future. Vanilla takes a leap of faith tho. But personally. Don't let this discourage you but I personally think vanilla servers are pointless after all this time. I tried like 5 big private servers and every of them sorta dies out after AQ opens, its fun for a few weeks to clear AQ but then server is emptying day after day and you end up with 100+ days played with your uber epic toon but zones are semi-empty, there is nothing to do and nothing is really fun anymore. I only say this cause you said retail can't suck you in for more than 3 months, with vanilla its only different case because capping your char takes 10 times longer due to how various gear pieces are obtained but eventually hype dies out... you just realize it after wasting 10 times more time;p or well... after enjoying 10 times more time. Nothing lasts forever.

I feel procs and stuff like that are "custom" nature of private servers. On old nost vis'kag was super good cause it had high proc, here its way less making it rather subpar. If they were actually able to tweak proc chances easily they could also fine tune other items i guess. Would be nice to get an official feedback regarding "procs issues" at some point.

One important thing you should learn very fast is that macros and nicely setup UI is very big part of your success early on so take ur time and learn about it early. Experiment with addons and macros whenever you can. Basic UI was ok 12 years ago but nowadays most of people use alert addons, timers and indicators that gives them huge edge over people that play "pure". Thats the thing with vanilla, API for macros and addons sometimes feel like bordering "cheats" but its allowed in this version of the game as API allows it.

- You can move in between shots without dps loss with a bit of practice (lot of practice). Casters can't move AT ALL without dps loss, they have to spam those bolts. - We got feign death as a cast cancelling move, scatter shot, trap, detterrence, a lot of dodge/parry mitigation and fuckton of hp with right gear, thats falls into defensive feats category. - If you want wotlk level of "efficiency" then go play wotlk? That being said pet is not for DPS per se. Sure you bring it to raids to add SOME dps. In PvP ur pet is for controlling status effect aka getting some people in combat so they can't re-drink/eat, enter stealth, charge you. On bgs in base chase scenarios you can send pet on ur target (hunter with aspect of the beast / untrackable) to have a raw estimate where the guy is hiding cause pet will know :) Stop considering pet a dps tool and u'll find peace. Its utility. You can take different pets for different utility, BT is pushback machine vs casters, boar is nice root to help you kite, scorpid can create shit poison buffer for your viper sting vs classes than can cleanse/abolish/cure. So as you see different pets open up a different line of play vs different opponents.

Alliance vs horde in pve discussion 2k17. Get real. In vanilla faction balance isn't really something thats remotely relevant in scoring first server kills.

http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=30425 nice copy paste. Did you bother reading the thread?