Morathe

Gotmilk I've been testing Lupos with friendly warlock on "Servant of blablabla" (mobs in Blasted Lands that can't die im sure u're familiar). Tested Lupos synergy with warlock in and out and results are as follows: Lupos DON'T eat the vulnerability stacks but benefit from it (its clearly a bug but again it DON'T eat those stacks), it benefits from Curse of Shadows it doesn't benefit from Curse of Recklessness.

Guilds hoard stuff and dont turn it in cause A) they wait to see if AQ is properly done on PTR B) Scarab Lord q is pretty fucked up with only 6 people being able to get it so guilds probably first want to grind up rep for their chosen (extra hard cause wings are bop) and then turn in stuff only to complete last parts of the chain.

On Anathema Lupos doesn't do shadow dmg anymore. On any pre 1.9 patch Lupos is supposed to be +/- 30% better pet option (for dps) from anything else. Scaling with shadow vuln(not stealing stacks), CoS and nightfall led to some funny crit spikes on bosses (my highest was 2k+ hit on chromag... from pet... sick). That paired with furious howl utility made it best raiding pet but well its nerfed to the ground in 1.9 and anathema delivered those nerfs in blizzlike fashion so keep that in mind on other servers that Lupos will become redundant starting from war effort patch.

But I'm serious... you ARE an idiot:P but also entertaining one so keep coming and responding:P Me and my guild take your shit and laugh over it on voice comm. Its hilarious how average mongo like you defend his twisted logic by referring to things that aren't even liked together while talking over and over about "principles" in a video game. There is no chivalrious code here that make principles carry over from one thing to another. But so far you've been immune to understand that there are NO principles that guide the ToU. ToU is made of ad hoc rules to maintain semi healthy and balanced game environment based on flaws of the system that has to be bound by those rules. Matter at hand does not fall into that category. Circumstances do but matter alone doesn't. Sleep it over before you gnaw back with empty eyes and lack of thought.

Oh it hurts, god please help this guy. Splendid. P.S I made peace with you being idiot beyond salvage so I'm taking you more as a comedian than anything else since some time already.

You mean you don't believe in RNG? Hmmm 34 kills damn that's a solid sample? Now multiply the sample by 100 to flatten out the rng factor, collect the data and post it here to make a case.

And then u'd wonder why server drops in population and doesn't get new players cause its advertised as "custom fun server" to match the reality. Changing stuff into custom fixes is a Dark Valley I'm telling you!

And thats a real thing to fight for here. Fight with gms to un-nerf other sources like dm east or dm tribute soloable for hunters etc instead whistle blowing un'goro out of proportion. I know it hurts some people that they are not a part of a club and the shit they googled out as a pre raid bis is out of their gold reach but you can only blame people that control ungoro for adapting to the situation. There is nothing against rules there, its just a blowback from other things that hurt randoms and the server in general I'll agree on that. But by enforcing even MORE control by admins/gms you'll run into even worse conditions. Get back on gms to recreate old instance farming and soloing of stuff then economy will balance out itself in time. They won't do that tho cause they can't control the bots in instances that easy and thats the sole purpose for nerfing those places... not because they are hurt some classes can have better gold per hour ratio than others... derp.

You mean by adding languages? Don't want to sound very confident here but i feel they did that just as a roleplaying aspect of a game. Not as a thing that stretches into playstyle rule. You are free being a roleplayer and condemn those that betray their faction by making deals with nasty hordes/punny alliance and /spitting on them in Ironforge but thats about it. Don't tell me how to play a game I won't tell you how to play it. For all I care you can sit 24/7 in goldshire Inn telling stories about dragons and great Un'Goro betrayal. As a matter of fact Blizzard made their RP realms to please people like that... I mean those that consider working with horde against the nature of a game. If any of Elysium server was marked when created as RP-pvp or RP-pve realm I'd agree but it isn't so those RP rules aren't going to be respected here.

Are you even familiar with honor system? It doesn't matter what rank u'd stop at if you gained bracket 1 by pure win trading lol. You'd fuck up ranking for high ranked people big time by breaking/not stacking with a bracket (do you have a slightest clue here or I'm talking in the void?) TL:DR "wintrading" is a term that belong to battlegrounds period. Don't use it for something you consider kinda sorta somewhat mAAAaaaybe comperable. As I said principle is irrelevant. Main principle behind ungoro = individuals don't like cucks on the same faction thus fuck em up using friendship with opposing faction... call it RPG betrayal but nothing against rules or any MMORPG aspect.

Nah im not angry because I got personal interest. I made enough so far and im not active there anymore. I'm angry because u're full of shit and represent mentality of a looser and a whiner. I learned trolling from your mom, she told me its a good bait for her retarded 16th son she kept caged in a basement thus far (good one right? har har). Fyi thre is no mafia... there is only CARTEL, get ur facts together if you talk about sense of your point (which lacks in every possible regard anyway O_o). P.S its funny to see you repeat I fail in every line :P self empowerment kicking in huh?

I totally wrecked your logic and tossed a few insults to highlight how flawed it was so its obvious you consider me a troll to diminish that effect. Thats psychological so don't worry, its natural reaction. But one thing to address: A) If you accuse me of gold selling bring a proof or gtfo, anyway you admit you're not even playing here so you have like 0 clue whats the matter. I sorta pity you that you're forum warrior and you spend time arguing ur 60 IQ ideas. Cheating? You're seriously fucked to the brain. Hey folks from this day calling in your friends and having a brawl even tho the other side does the same is cheating. Doesn't matter we have fair and square fights all the time but its CHEATING :P You sir are a pussy. Let that sink. Pussy:) P.S its cute you found a nice meme to highlight your case :) Speaking of 15y old thinking :* Btw you told 5 posts ago you won't respond to me so stick to your word and shut the fuck up :P or too triggered to leave that keyboard in peace?:D

You're hopeless

Tinfoil hat equiped.

You are quite fucked in the head aren't ya? Are you a fucking alexensual apprentice or what? Gtfo bitch :P So much bullshit in one post I won't even address that. Get some help mongol. Tl:dr if faggots like you quit the server because of that "problem" then I consider it a win :P ps. link me a gm stating they are out of control and un'goro is against ToU while they specificly told on various occasions its perfectly fine and people should either form their own ally-horde coalition or just enjoy other aspects of the game. p.p.s few randoms crying their ass off for eternity is not considered a LARGE number of people that have problem with it. Only underachievers got problem with it and ill actively fight you and u're looser logic.

You talk about principle... that is irrelevant in un'goro. Thats why I'm getting mad... u're trying to break down the term as its some very technical thing jesus. As I said ALSO before "Wintrading" in bgs is not allowed cause it disrupt the global ranking system. In un'goro we DONT WINTRADE. We ask hordes A to come kill allies A in return allies A call hordes B to kill allies B (me). In both situations different people fight their battles and no party involved die intentionally for the gain of the other side (both sides fight and the winning side takes the profit). Think of it as battleground battle but you can group with both hordes and alliance but inside battleground only hordes can kill allies and vice versa, ofc you'll cooperate with your hordes to achieve ultimate win, and thats the case in un'goro. Win trading in battlegrounds as stated in ToU is skipping the fight and letting other side win to avoid competition (by completely dodging long games and thus putting yourself ahead of your rivals in same faction). Don't compare those things.

A) So u're irrelevant in this discussion and you admit that, good that we have that out of the way. B) I didn't bother to read 9 pages of semi intellectual crap, you got that right, I don't need to read all that if you use term that doesn't match the subject you move in singular post... no matter how hard you tried to stretch it into your argumentation before. Why would I need to read 9 pages of your attempts to stretch the meaning of a term everyone knows? To confuse myself? Or to trouble myself with battling every semi-logic argument that you produced to achieve your goal? As they say "bitch please...". C) Oh yes very much so. I'm angry for a living.

You completely don't understand a subject of win trading I'm afraid. When there are 20 allies trying to tag devilsaur and its like 3 different groups one of those groups call for horde friends to try and kill other allies. Those battles are sometimes quite ruthless and not a free win so I dunno what you consider a win trade here... those other allies fight for their lives. Stop trying to stretch battleground "wintrade' term into that activity cause its A) completely different environment B) completely different impact on server and you're only confusing people. Its allowed to have friends on different faction and using that relation for mutual benefit. You're not forced to work for the gain of your own faction as you're not forced to like rival guilds. Politics is a part of a MMO gameplay so stop trying to encircle that with nazi rules just because you suck at politics and get fucked in the ass cause of that. I know thats harsh but thats the name of the game. Anyway cooperating with horde like that was the same on retail or currently in retail... how many times I saw swifty "call his horde friends" to form a raid to kill an ally multiboxer while at the same time saying to all allies not to touch this horde group. Its been always like that, you folks are only butthurt cause u're not a part of a club and thats the only concern here.

They are not "tolerating" they are allowing it cuz its a fucking mmo, not every social aspect (for the good or the bad) is supposed to be nazi controlled by admins. If there are people that come to ungoro just to grief their own faction because they hate fuckheads that hide behind the chars they grief then so be it. Stop with that carebear mentality that makes you entitled for GM help whenever u get fucked in the ass cuz u're A) noob B) unsocial fag that can't make friends. TL:DR If staff wanted this to stop all they'd need to do is perma ban most active ungoro folks, rest would waver away. They won't because they realize its best to leave gameplay for players, its neither hacking nor bug amusing nor exploiting. At worst its based on grudge against other players but gm's shouldn't and won't tell you to like every1 in ur faction.

Mongoloid

Thrown in the towel? Have you seen how much is already contributed? Just check numbers and let that sink.

Its very nice of you but you miss the point. I just said that allowing it as a general rule would break the system. Anyway I explained before why comparing cooperating between horde and alliance in world is totally different matter. Why they cooperate? because you can't kill alliance as alliance obviously. You'd be left with 2 options A) play a tag game (generally internet speed game cuz person with 100ms can't outtag a guy with 15ms) B) join and share gold. Option B is totally pointless cause you'd need to accept everyone that comes around which would drop the profitability by tons, also price would drop due to pure accessibility of devilsaur leather. Also major obstacle in "faction" cooperation is that people don't like each other... there are some guilds that have a grudge of a sort and don't want to work with each other.

Win trading on bgs affect honor system, if allowed it would completely break ranking on a server. Un'goro monopoly on the other hand is surely profitable but just a part of economy. Being pushed away from devilsaur farm doesn't mean you can't get GOLD at all anymore or that you can't just get replacement gear given the circumstances (overpriced set). Just don't be entitled and u'll be fine folks. Anyway Un'Goro monopoly is direct reaction to CUSTOM CHANGES from devs making it impossible to farm dire maul for real profit anymore. Hunters can't solo tribute cause they are getting teleported in front of the King, I heard boss runs and aoe runs are nerfed to the bone also. Unnerf DM tribute runs for hunters and DM east runs and u'll see less fierce competition in Un'Goro cuz believe me... its not as fun as you think that whenever you login you get insta invited and spam summoned cause your people need help with hostiles or with tagging.

They just fucked up, its gonna be fixed soon, chill