Oakenlix

He's complaining about some speedhackers he (supposedly) met.

Do you, really? Or are you trying to offend/troll me? Why? Your post is quite confusing. Anyway... No one has proved that someone needs a BoE item more than others, because that's simply not the case. The only "proofs" I see is some bullshit like that: Good proof indeed, very persuasive. Lol. Try to be a better troll next time.

Id easily take 5000 population over 10000, I think many people would too.

Well, they wanted to go, but the fence didn't let them. A sad story, actually

I play for Alliance, this doesn't change the fact you're a delusional moron though.

I'll tell you why you are a piece of shit: Go away.

I'm quite sure new players will mostly choose Zethkur, Elysium is overpopulated.

Oh, well if that's the case, then people simply wouldn't trade it 1:1.

Yeah, I have no doubt this should be forbidden, just thought that was funny and pointed it out.

Why are people even talking about different econonies, lol. The gold wouldn't go from one server to another.

All I say is it should be okay to do that and it would be simpler/better/more fair if everyone did that. But if my posts upset you so much you feel you should blacklist me and call me a thief (really?), well then, I think you're full of shit. Good bye. PS: not replying to the rest of your post because that's just a bunch of bullshit.

First of all, it's very nice of you to come up with some links/sources/arguments, I respect that. However, what's described here is someone's opinion and it's not really the essense of our argument, what we argue about is - is the value of BoE item the same for everyone or not. Because if it's not, it's pretty obvious that whoever needs it most should roll need, and who needs it less should roll greed. I, however, insist that's not the case. Well, Blizzard don't approve me playing on a private server either, so I'm not really sure I should be concerned with that. Here's the interesting part. I'll try to explain my position once again, as detailed as possible. First of all, if you really want to talk about me personally - no, I'm not greedy. I advocate that everyone should roll need on any BoE item, how exactly does that make me greedy? If anything, that would be a more simple, natural and even more fair system for everyone if everyone did that, but I won't go into that now. Secondly, about the value of BoE items, let's take an example. I want to mark this part out because this is where important things are said, please pay attention. Say Rogue and Warrior loot a BoE two-handed axe and they both roll "need". Warrior can equip it, rogue obviously can't. So if Rogue wins, he can go to AH and sell it for 1 gold, so that's the value of this axe for him. But if Rogue can sell it on AH, obviously Warrior can buy it on AH too, for the same amount (if the market is somewhat healthy). So if Warrior wins, he saves 1 gold he would otherwise spend buying it. So the value of this axe is 1 gold for him too. See that? 1 gold = 1 gold, motherfuckers.

Would you try to disprove my point? If it's so ridiculous as you claim, there must be some kind of an argument proving that value of BoE item is different for different players. If you do that, be sure I'll have to agree with your point. Unfortunately, so far nobody in this thread provided anything like that. But that's not an argument, that's you telling me what you think "need" and "greed" mean. You can't prove why would someone who intends to use BoE item need it more that someone intending to sell it on AH. I, on the other hand, can prove my point.

Alright I'm bringing myself back for this occurence, what the fuck are you talking about? Me giving up meant giving up on convincing you that the first post of that guy wasn't whining, since you're seemingly too dumb to realize it, it didn't mean I'm quitting the thread, you insignificant piece of gay.

My English teacher told me its not polite to say "wrong" in capital letters to someone. I therefore am highly offended and thus remove myself from this thread.

I'm indeed giving it up, but for another reason, because no he didnt and no, you are wrong.

Right, but there was nothing akin to whining in his first post, so unless you claim you have supernatural powers and knew it beforehand, my point stands - making fun of and ridiculing someone isn't whining. :)

No he isn't, get you head out of your ass and read his post again.

Yeah, yet you still fail to provide any argument, good luck with your trolling career elsewhere mate. And no, Im not greedy, Im actually one of the kindest motherfuckers you're gonna meet. I just don't like it when people speculate with terms while completely missing the logical meaning of roll system (or more like general sense of value), and also blame people that use it properly as ninjas.

You managed to completely ignore my arguments and respond with some "This is how it's supposed to be so use it this way!" bullshit. Please try to re-read my post and give it some thought. My point has nothing to do with being a "selfish prick", how about this actually: you try and provide any argument that whoever intends to use a BoE item need it more than anyone else. Could you? I don't think so, nothing you came up with so far makes for a good argument. A person calling someone who rolls need for a BoE item a ninja - that's what a selfish prick is. Once again, are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them? If so, please re-read my post and think about it for a minute. If that doesn't help either, my apologies and condolenses. Speculating with what "need" and "greed" means doesn't help you build up an argument for why someone would need a BoE item more than another person. My point is that value of a BoE item is equal for everyone. If you really want to argue, try to disprove my point first, hopefully you'll understand its legitimacy in the process.

Zethkur is probably better, no overpopulation, no queue.

Are you aware we're talking about BoE items and selling them on AH, not BoP items and vendoring them? If so, let me explain. A value of BoE item is the same for everyone no matter if you're gonna use it or sell it. To use this item, you can buy it for the same amount another player can sell it. Therefore everyone needs it equally. Hope now it's clear.

Wow, too complicated... So what if you need an item to sell it?

But everyone needs any BoE item. Assuming your need for an item to use it is more important than other person's need to sell it on AH - now thats a little douchy.

What if Nost realms had different cores? :O By the amount of controversy about the old nost bugs and other things, it sure seems so.