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Does anyone know if these books are solo farmable? I know there are a few book spawn locations, but I don't know of all of them. Anyone have experience with this? Edit: I figured out how to solo farm the dm west book.

Not if you were a vanilla hunter who actually used Zin'rok.

So instead of you "throwing away" time on your main, you'd ask a huge portion of the Darrowshire population to "throw away" their experience? Many like me simply wouldn't play any more if this happened. Cool. The fact is, many of us like a small population, and we don't all want to play on ridiculously unrealistic megaservers with 7000+ people. That's not my issue that you decided to roll there and are too stubborn to make a new character.

You could, you know, just go play on the other servers.

A valid point, but only to a degree. It's not 100% true. It's only partly true. The point I'm making is that there are a lot of players who play on PvE realms, and simply won't play or donate anything at all without one, because I (get this) don't want to play with the majority of you.

I keep seeing the argument about splitting the community. Stop it. It's not valid. Many players like myself simply don't play if there's not a PvE server. The alternative isn't what I'm looking for. It doesn't matter how you attempt to rationalize it "Oh, well the ganking isn't that bad! There are flying mounts which kill world PvP!" Stop it. I don't care. I'm not interested in playing on a PvP realm at all. Not since retail.

How do those players get into karazhan without doing those heroics?

What makes you think they won't do at least two separate servers? At the very least, there will two. One PvE and one PvP.

Agreed. A LOT of players skip green quests because they think they aren't worth doing. They still give xp and they're so much easier to do as well. Never skip green quests unless it's a single quest in a zone very far out of your way.

I'm a bit foggy on the exact time before it's considered against the tos, but I do vaguely remember it being upwards of 24 hours.

I don't want exploits in game. I do however want consistency with changes and fixes. I don't want changes based on "blizzard just never got around to it" unless that applies universally. DM trib runs were 100% solo farmable by hunters in retail, yet it's not any more here. That doesn't fly Hudson.

You sound like you belong on the retail forums with a post like that, pal. You've added nothing to this thread. Go away, turd.

If it wasn't fixed until Cataclysm on retail WoW, the team here shouldn't touch it. Assuming they want that "blizzlike" experience. They need to stop cherry picking shit like this. It needs to be all or none.

Did blizzard fix it during vanilla?

"Working as intended... if you have evidence blah blah, submit a bug report elsewhere bla blah" Closed topic

Quoted from a closed topic (I don't really care if it's closed, close this too if you want ya stooges...) Greetings. Unfortunately using Mind Control or the engineering Mind Control Cap to remove players out of a Battleground is allowed. It is not an exploit and working as intended. The portals were introduced for players to leave the Battleground due to missing knowledge of the /AFK function to remove yourself from a Battleground back in Vanilla, using an ability to remove players out of a Battleground due to the portals and Mind Control is clever use of game mechanics. 16 hours ago, Software said: We are one of the very few private servers in the world that did almost very accurate loot table and spell coefficient adjustments, to have both on the most blizzlike level. If you don't get as much gold out of your Dire Maul East farm as on other private servers, you are just used to farm on broken servers. Players that say we 'nerfed' farming methods usually say that when we actually fix them. One exception is the Dire Maul Tribute change on the endboss, where you can debate if you want hunters to solo it for a massive gold farm, or if you want to prevent it. However, this change is not made by us, it's from Nostalrius. I think it's borderline insanity that someone can lean on the side of "clever use of game mechanics" when it results in literally removing a player from a battleground. A function that absolutely not be achievable by any player in a non premade battleground. Yet, when it comes to soloing a dungeon, it's an exploit and they do custom scripting to "fix" it. Completely ignoring the fact that other dungeon material can be solo farmed by specific classes for massive amounts of gold (don't worry, that's ok guys) Was evade bugging all the adds in Deadmines on Van Cleef clever use of game mechanics? Absolutely yes, do you guys call it "safe spotting" and call it an exploit? Also yes... You can't even begin to argue that Blizzard's grand design with battle grounds was to expect to lose a player or two each match by literally being removed from the opposing team. You just can't. If you tried, you have to be taking crazy pills. In short, fuck that response. It's a stupid parrot response and you put no original thought into it whatsoever. Edit: quoting from the GM communications thread... We want to provide all players with an equal level playing field and if you suspect any players breaking our Terms of Use to report them using our in game ticket system. -GM Team Yeah, mind control cap sure is a level playing field, right!

It was terribly slow even on Darrowshire last time I ran out to farm herbs. People will chime in with "well...that's how it was in vanilla!" and "people don't want to work for things! they think everything should just be given to them..." but those people are idiots. As a vanilla herbalist, I know the spawn timers are not accurate.

I just can't fathom how anyone can see it as ok. It's completely mindboggling to me. It's literally an ability you can purchase to delete a member of the opposing team, and not by killing them.

They don't discuss shit. They cite broken things as clever use of game mechanics, except when they don't like it, and they close topics. The question is, what do you think about mind control cap in BG's to intentionally remove a player from the entire game. I'd legitimately like to get your opinion on it, since you seem to feel the need to blanket every single thread in the forums. We're not talking about using it to kill them once, such as mind controlling people into lava in blackrock mountain for instance, or off an AB cliff. This removes them from the game, leaving the team short handed. Now, it may not have been fixed by blizzard right away, but it's clearly one of those things that went under their radar and is broken and not an intentional tactic at all. Imagine a PvE raid fight where the boss didn't just teleport you away from the raid, but back to your hearth location... Think that would be acceptable?

Ok forum buzzword guy. I'll put it into words you understand then. Go crack a cold one open with the boyz, cuck, or something like that.

Gotta get passionate when you're dealing with rocks-for-brains.

No. I'd prefer a game where 10 players can queue up and reliably fight against 10 other players, but an inevitable 8 on 9 or something along those lines...but fuck me right? You trolly garbage flinging dork. The suggestion is to fix the shit that was obviously an oversight by Blizzard. Read, man. Try it.

Don't take it personally dude. This community has rocks for brains. So much arguing over "blizzlike" shit that they 100% ignore things like this that are obviously exploits and/or unintended behavior that Blizzard themselves just never got around to fixing. Don't worry though, they had plenty of time to make non blizzlike changes to specific dungeons to prevent a single class from solo farming it. They cherry pick blizzlike behaviors and call it a day.

To this day, I still read that magazine occasionally while I'm on the toilet.

You probably can't consistently find groups because you call dungeons dung's.