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No one asserted camping a mob like a devilsaur is against the rules. That is a strawman. The argument, which you didn't understand at first, is that same faction players are helping opposite faction players win in PvP. That is wintrading, and is most definitely against the rules. I get Pottu's point that there are insufficient resources to police this, that doesn't make it right or "legal".

Wintrading is wintrading... whether it's honor (as it is in this case as well) or goods. You make yourself sound silly saying that it's ok for players on your faction to help players on the opposite faction beat you in PvP. And everyone can also abuse or exploit the PvP system by wintrading in a BG... but I assume you're against that. right?

What's your point? Any help at all is wintrading. Any healing that happens is lost DPS and favors the helped player. Are you ok with people wintrading? Are you saying it's not good enough to be better then the opposite faction, you have to be so much better so you can overcome the help they receive from your own faction? That's ok with you?

You sheep them. Sheeped players are healed.

This has nothing to do with not assisting (which is perfectly fine with me). Same faction players are HEALING the opposite faction so they can WIN in PvP. That is win-trading.

How is this issue solved by the players? I can't prevent another player on my own faction from healing the opposite faction in this way. Are you saying Blizzard intended players of one faction to help players of the other faction win in PvP? That's win-trading as far as I can tell.

I think teaming up with 100 people to control the supply is fine... as long as those 100 people on all on the same faction and not griefing anyone. This should be causing world PvE, not preventing it which is what seems to be the case here.

If an alliance player helps a horde player beat another alliance player. And the horde player does the same for the alliance player... that's the definition of win-trading. I don't see any way you could consider that within the rules. I get Pottu's point that they don't have the resources to police this (although this is how policing works, you find the most troublesome place and you enforce there until the trouble move to another place... rinse/repeat). Not policing something is not the same as saying it is within the rules.

"helping opposite faction members by sheeping them to heal them" How is that not exactly win-trading?

By this logic then there is no rule against win-trading right? That's simply people in both factions communicating to the benefit of both parties and against everyone else. Or is this just blatant hypocrisy.

Security through obfuscation is not security.

So what, grouping to fight the other faction is part of the game. Grouping to fight other players on your own faction is not.

So when you're proven wrong and uninformed you just change your argument rather then admit you were wrong. Got it. And no, it isn't "funny", it's griefing.

You should try reading the thread before commenting. The complaint is about griefing from member of the same faction. This should, obviously, be a bannable offense.

I was immediately DCed on log in with the character I used earlier tonight, but was able to log into a character I hadn't used today.

Ahh, I read it backwards. Good to know. Thank you.

Just so I'm clear, because I might count on this. If I don't PvP this week then I won't be subject to decay? I didn't know about this until this thread so just want to be crystal clear on it before I sit out a week.

What's with all the whining? I remember when blizz implemented this so all the ninja whining would stop. If you can click the button it means you can click the button...

DKs are in the game, or are you saying they're only partially in? OP, how are you corpse camped for 2hrs exactly? It's pretty easy to hearth and go do something in a different area.

Promise to stop spamming people who sign up for it.

I saw pools in Tanaris tonight. So they're not gone from Anathema.

I think I said "tons of landmines". I don't recall them respawning as much or after disarming them or killing the minelayer.

I was led to believe there were posts here to farm?

I don't remember tons of landmines in the original AV.