Beerwizzard

Okay, i'll try to explane it one last time. Gold (the money) is a commodity that commonly used to trade it for other ones. No one can use gold, no one ever seen someone thet equipped dold etc. Though the gold is used to buy something we dont have, like gear, flasks, mats, whatever. We cant have anything in one time so we NEED this gold to get the other gear. Thats how it works irl, you saying that no one NEEDS money (fucking comunist) but the money (golds ingame) are because of their value and liquidity (if you still have the same thoughts about money irl then pm me ur bank account, you dont need it). When the warrior is rolling a boe technicly he dont need the item because if he did he could already get it on the AH whenever he wanted. He is rolling the item's gold value because he simply to GREEDy to buy it on the AH. P.S. If you still have any questions feel free to ask it but if you still dont get the elementary basics of the economy then you are dumb.

Ya. There was afair roll. I've already explaned the reasons why i needed the item and why i decided not to give it back. imho everything seems to be at least logical.

not rly, i just wanna say that its pretty naive to think that someone will give something to you after getting a dozen of whispers from different accounts like "YOU DUMB FUCK IF YOU WONT GIVE HIM THE ITEM WE WIL RUIN UR LIFE BLA BLA BLAAAAA"

Mokes! Relog to ur previous account, u've already told it to me many times! I know that you guys are qualified psychologists and know everything about me. Feel free to add any new information after ur further research. :) The main reasin thy he didnt get the item from me is that he (and all his friends) starten threatning me in pm (like a lot of caps lock, unsult and other bullshit). The reaction was extremely inedequate xD. Ya, ur reaction was funny but hope you got the piont why i rolled an item and why i decided not to give it to you (if you dont then im not surprised cause u probably didnt get anything from prev posts).

1st I dont realy care about this, ur butthurts are realy hilarious. 2nd no one gave any reasonable argument why am i wrong and if you do not understand the point then you are dumb.

Why should i care about that? I dont realy gove a fuck about it since u've tried to insult me, Just go grind the same mobs. The wish to save those X gold is the same greed.

People usualy run dungeons to get BoP items obviously because you cant get them anywhere exapt current mobs (usuclly bosses). None usualy comes to the dungeon with a purpose of getting an item with 0.02% droprate. We need this boe the same way as the guy that can equip it cause we will definetely change it into another item that match our class. Thats why passing an item we are loosing our items and giving them to someone else. I'm just trying to explane that all ppl in a group can rly need an item in case if its rare and boe. I needed this item as mutch as this guy because i need to trade it into the other item and he needs it to save movey from buying it (so if the grp passed it to warrior we would tecnicly buy him this item). In both cases according to ur logic our aims could be classified as GREED so for making a fair roll ppl usually press need.

Amen.

If you equipped those shoulders it means that you dont have to spend the X amount of gold of buying it. Also it means that the other members are getting the same amount of lost profit (loosing their gold). is it so hard to get it?

The item becomes valuable if it is tradable between the players, it makes a real value. Thats so obvious that i agree with Oakenlix.

Exactly. The worst thing is that after loosing an item ppl start cry and insult the winner.

not incurred costs ( money saved on the same item on ah) = lost profits for the ones tho passed item

In this case passing an item means getting a loss / ggifting gold (not item) to the other person

the AH can give the same upgrade, why should the whole grp pay for it? usually i pass items but this guy was too rude xD

Why this guy cant buy the same item on the ah before / after the run? Why should i gift him the X amount of gold? p.s. as i said i was ready to give the item away but sometimes ppl should be more polite to each other.

As i said if the item is boe then his item is someone else's other boe item. Thats why i need it too.

Hey mate! Finaly you've created a thread as i insisted yesterday. I'm very glad that you didnt burn ur house with ur buttfire. Here i will be able to ask all ur questiona and ask mine (you've already told me a dozen of times that i have some physical and mental dosabilities so probably my silly brain dont understand all the situation). So you've asked why i did it? But why not? Every item (ingame or irl) could be considered as a currency and all of them have a different liquidity. Ofc the most universal one is gold and usually we are using it in wow. If the epic item is BoE it becomes pretty liquid and could be turned into the other boe item (item - gold - item). In this case we had a rare drop of a value of X. What means that your shoulders a someone else's devilsaur set / robe of winter night / whatever. Im pretty sure that all group members should have a right to roll on this value. Also here comes a question: Why the whole group should pass you this value if you could get it by yourself? There always usualy 2-4 of this items on the ah.Dont see any reasons why you shouldnt farm gold the same way as we all do. Yesterday we had a rare drop and 4/5 ppl from the grp needed it, i've offered a hunter to roll but he refused. Btw at one moment i was ready to pass it to you but you threatened me (and kept threatning / blackmailing me for a pretty long time) xD. I won the fair roll, sry mate. If you still have any questions feel free to ask it. P.S. Dude, you had a huuuuuge butthurt. Take it easy :) In some hrs after the issue u've capsed me with different bullshit about me, my loneliness, my physical and mental disabilities etc. (despite you already had 6 am). Duno what you've spammed in world chat but even today one guy whispered me that <quote> it was hilarious </quote>. Instead of wasting ur time you could farm some gold for buying some ingame items or just try to restore you nerves. :)

Can anyone pls give me the list of actual pre raid mage gear for PvE realm? Promise to give stacks of food/water to this guy.

Seems like no one ever reed threads in bug reports so i'll post it here. After turning a pre quest (Magecraft) Archmage Xylem dont give me the next part of the chain. Fix it pls.