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I play NA hours as alliance and as stated I rarely encounter premades. I have easily played over 200 bgs in the last 3 weeks as a pug. I play WSG mainly as AB is significantly less efficient honor wise compared to WSG as a pug and you are less likely to have to suffer through afkrs while your own contribution to the team is more impactful. I make no "utter rubbish" arguments but am merely relating my experiences on the matter. There are very few people in world chat lfm for bg premades so I rarely get to join premades and my guild doesn't PvP much.

On Elysium you could go from rank 6 to 7 in a week fairly easily with the amount of bgs and size of brackets. I suspect that is not the case on Zeth'Kur and that is by no means a high level rank. I agree that they should be monitoring the transfer status but a 2 week window will be missed by many for a variety of reasons.

It's not a presumed preference. Zeth'Kur was an extension of Elysium, if they wanted to roll on anathema they would have. Presuming they want to play on anathema when they already went out of their way not to is absurd and will not sit well with most of the people that miss the 2 week window. If you attempted to PvP on Zeth'Kur then I think you would not have stated there is no situation.

That is true. The situation now is a little different in that the only info available stated for awhile that the default server was Elysium. Now players have less than a month to be enlightened and even less of a window to manually pick their server of choice. Many will have walked away yesterday/weeks ago and will return in a month to see they are not on the server they were told they would be on.

I approve of Ragward's post. Removing choice rarely is a good thing.

Zeth'Kur's existence was to mitigate Elysium's high pop. It was a decent idea but a failure. People chose Elysium over zeth and that's why zeth failed. Asking why the devs didn't ask players if they wanted to go from ely to zeth would be redundant, they already created the option and it didn't pan out.

I play alot on Elysium and raid with 3 different guilds and have not heard a single player complain about this. If we Elysium players wanted a more progressed server we would have rolled on one.

There's going to be alot of people coming to the forums in July, August and beyond asking why their characters were mistakenly sent to anathema when it was announced that Elysium was the default destination. It's been what, 7 months since the nost transfer and people still come to the forums regularly asking if they can transfer their nost char even though plenty of information was given out when it happened that there was a limited window to do so. Elysium was the logical default but if some reason that was deemed a bad idea then darrowshire should have been next in line as the default choice due to its similar player base mindset and population preference. This is a big mistake that this project will have to deal with for months.

The Chinese have nothing to do with the current lag. It's been lagging off and on at random times lately. The Zeth'Kur merge will hardly impact Elysium's economy, it's too big to be impacted by the small number of players coming from Zeth'Kur. You guys are coming to some crazy conclusions based off no evidence and poorly thought out reasoning.

The only way to get gold is by spending time to get it. So how am I wrong?

I don't see how you can argue that spending 5200 gold a year if you respeced every week is a good idea. That's not a gold sink, it's a time sink and a completely unnecessary one. As it is now people who primarily PvE (which is the majority of the sever pop) choose not to PvP because understandably the respec cost is not justifiable and PvP in a PvE spec for most classes is a waste of time for the individual and a burden on the team. Lowering respec cost essentially increases the amount of in game content available yet you argue it would kill the game. That makes no sense.

So im running to MC on my alliance warlock in BRM and horde mage Methane and a warrior jump me which I welcome since I just sacrificed my voidwalker in anticipation of knowing some horde think they're gonna get some free honor. I get Methane down to 10% hp and he ice blocks and then vaporized. How did he exit the game in less than 20 seconds and is that allowed?

He still had iceblock up so it wasn't an invis potion. I think noobie is probably right.

Edit caused double post.

This makes no sense. Reducing respec cost and allowing queue from anywhere simply would increase PvP activity at the cost of nothing. Your proposal to limit people who organize however would be a drastic change and would reduce PvP activity. I do bgs as a solo queue 95% of the time and don't agree that playing against premades is an issue. I think a lot of people mistake being outranked and getting steamrolled for premades. Get better gear, ranks, and learn to play your class and play as a team with random people and you can solve your own problems.

I've played 100s of bgs on Elysium and can say nothing you say here is even remotely true. I encounter premades as a pug in about 10% of my games. More than likely you're getting outplayed consistently and wish to the lay blame any where but on yourself for constantly getting steamrolled. I encountered far more premades in retail vanilla than I do here.

That is not evidence or proof and congrats you are the 1st person I've had to ignore in 6 months of viewing these forums due to your ignorance and spreading of stupidity.

This is a good example where a unanimous vote kick option would be useful but barring that my 1st post stated an easy solution that for some reason your team was not keen on.

This post duki refers to is hearsay and in no way fits the definition of proof or evidence which is needed in the argument he is attempting to make. The gms have asked for evidence and duki has not obliged.

I'm confused how someone could hold the flag all game. The only way to do that is to safe spot/glitch to prevent being killed by the opposing faction and that would get the abuser banned. Let the flag carrier die and go pick up the respawn. Seems like an easy solution. Also AB does indeed suck. As a pug I get 25% more honor for time spent in WSG compared to AB. I don't know why pugs would ever queue AB unless it's honor bonus weekend there.

"A lot of people use Aux and autobuy feature." An assumption that is very likely to be incorrect. I'd guess that maybe 10% of the server pop uses this add-on and only a small % of them use the part of it that is not allowed. "Almost none of them get caught." An assumption that is likely correct but irrelevant since botting is not allowed. These are assumptions that led you to form the opinion that botting the AH should be allowed because you like it and you don't think it harms the community. I don't agree that it doesn't hurt the community. As someone who does not bot the AH, allowing botters can only lower the chances of me buying out or winning a bid since botters can automatically do what I do manually. I shouldn't have to spell out self evident logic like this to explain why botting is bad.

I can't put into words how much I like this idea.

You are positing an opinion from a biased point of view that does not benefit the community in any way. I read and understood your points and I disagree with you that in this instance botting should be allowed.

I was going to make a post similar to this but this is spot on. The biggest problem with bgs isn't the current design or management but the servers with low population. None of the suggestions in this thread will fix the issues with bgs when you have such low populations on 3 of the servers. The only suggestion I've seen that is worth discussion is possibly lowering respect costs.

The rule is being enforced which is why this thread exists. You just don't agree with it. Report botters if you think there's uneven enforcement.