Wrathran

Pottu was a GM and forum moderator. Sounded like a nice, honest and active guy and all but what exactly did he do for the community that is so amazing compared to all other GMs?

@JustCurious Well you have yourself a little safespace account you can anonymously use so that no one learns your honest opinions. I would say that's a bad thing. Live today, play today because there may be no tomorrow as the server may be shut down tomorrow, you know, it's a freaking pirate server. You may also be crushed under a truck on the way home from school, who knows. I mean everything here is pretty pathetic when you put it in other contexts. I'm gonna quote my hero again: Can you log in right now and play and have fun? Yes, great, you can't ask for anything more than that. You can't even ask for that. Just be happy with what you got. You act like a guild falling apart is the end for the world or something strange or terrible. In Legion on Retail I had 4 mythic guilds in a row fall apart and it's not like people on retail is worried by the future... It happens for all kind of reasons. The beautiful thing with vanilla wow is that you can take a break for like a year and come back and just pick up where you left. Or not, maybe the server and all your effort is gone tomorrow. sadface.

Your guild sound like a bunch of whiny butthurt pussies anyway whose feelings are hurt. Who gives a shieat. Do they need a safespace? Maybe it's a good thing. If a guild falls apart due to tinfoilhat drama and rumors then maybe it's for the best.

My new hero said this in another thread:

You just did with this thread. You brought back the bullshit drama and rumors to this forum. What you have failed, just as every post on Reddit etc have failed is TO PROVIDE EVIDENCE for the claims!

You have presented a claim that logs was deleted. I am not saying you are wrong. I am saying I don't believe you until you can shown sufficient evidence to support that claim. You are not saying "I believe", "I heard from X" or "my opinion is", you are factually claiming that logs was deleted. Unless you provide evidence for this you are sabotaging and spreading drama and rumors. That's one REALLY f-ed up comment. Oh did they act DEFENSIVELY when they accused of something serious, impossible to disprove (the burden of proof is on the person making the claim) and that could potentially ruin the whole project? Well they must be guilty then!?!?! Only a guilty person would act DEFENSIVELY. And acting SHADY, oh my, do these anonymous people running an illegal pirate server acting, SHADY? Oh my, they surely are guilty of these claims then! Seriously dude. So far, YOU, and people like you are the only problem I see here. Unless you are here to actively sabotaging Elysium then I wonder, what kind of f-ed up idiot are you? Seriously?

Donno what you mean. A full scan takes like 30min. When you search a specific item it need to search maybe 1-2 pages or up to 8-10 on some common items like cloth. You do a full scan by just clicking search without anything typed in the box. It will search though 300-400 pages and save the info. It will say something after some time that table is full or similar, that can just be ignored, it will still save the info but just not show it all in one window.

What FACTS made you lose faith in the staff? Facts backed by evidence, that's what you should believe and nothing else. I really hope you will show some facts backed by evidence... Unless you can do that you are not part of the problem, you are the f-ing problem!

Says the dude who plays vanilla wow. Well, I presume.

The claim was that Alliance have x50 times more "super nerds". The claim was not that Alliance have more active players. To claim that alliance have more active players is a totally reasonable claim, does not require much evidence. But to claim that Alliance have x50! times more active players (word used was "super nerds" but I assume it actually means "very active"), well that's an extraordinary claim and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

So what is the definition of the word then? Just define it and make me shut up... What does it take to be considered a casual and when does a casual change from a casual into say, a hardcore? I mean it's an English Word that is printed in the Dictionary, but how do you define the word in this context? First step is to define the words used as they have different meaning to different people and different contexts. Second step is to provide evidence for the claims where that word is being used. or Just say it's not a fact and just an opinion or personal observation.

Ok that's fine. Your definition (please correct me if I get this wrong) of a "super nerd" is someone who ask for evidence on factual claims and who ask for definitions of made up words. I don't think other people used "super nerd" in that context though, but hey, you can define any word in any way you want if that makes you happy. Doesn't make any sense though in my opinion. Great, now we have defined what a "super nerd" is. Awesome! Now provide evidence for you claim. Thanks.

It's extremely important and constructive to call out people for using claims without evidence. On topic. It's not "blizz like" so it's stupid to even ask for it on a "blizz like" server. Only time there is something to discuss is when something is not "blizz like" for whatever reason. What OP is saying is really that Elysium should not be "blizz like" anymore. I strongly disagree. That's my plain and simple opinion. The most constructive thing I can do is to try and make people stop making factual claims without evidence and instead present them as open and honest opinions or personal observations.

So I am crazy and a troll for asking for the definition of words used in claims without evidence. Just define your meaning of a "super nerd" and "harcore" (I mean it's clear that hardcore is used on someone who plays "a lot", but how much? And when do someone change from a "casual" into a "hardcore"?) and provide evidence for your factual claims. That will shut me up. promise. or Change your position from a factual claim into an opinion or personal observation.

I have never asked for that though. Why do you claim I have asked for evidence of what side is more "hardcore". Also, please define what "hardcore" is.

Yes not accepting claims presented as facts without evidence makes me crazy.... I would say it makes me the opposite. People who accept claims without evidence are the crazy, or at least dumb. Get's what? What do "everyone" gets? Who are these "everyone"? What are a "super nerd" and what are a "casual", we still haven't defined what they are. So define the following: "we" "everyone" "super nerd" "casuals" Then after defining what they are, present evidence for your claims, or, also totally ok, change your position from a factual claim, to an, opinion or personal observation. Awesome, but what does this prove? Are they the undefined "super nerds"?

When you provide evidence that start with the word "think" you have not fully understood what evidence is. Maybe that is why you write "evidence?" with a questionmark... All I am trying to convey is that if you present a claim you need evidence to support that claim. It's ok to provide ideas and opinion but then you should not present them as a fact. Ok, but do you have evidence to support your claim? Where can I find facts that support your claim? And is people who play pvp in battlegrounds "super nerds"? You don't write that you think, or that you have heard or that it's your opinion or comment, you write this as a fact. Also, even if you do provide evidence for your claim, what have you proven? Is premades run by these "super nerd"`? I mean no one have defined what a "super nerd" is yet. With all bullshit claims without evidence surrounding this server and even all media with fake news people should stop spreading claims without evidence. That's all. Oh and on topic. Did vanilla have double queues or did vanilla retail prevent premades? You are playing on a "blizz like" vanilla realm that try to clone vanilla retail as much as possible. It's very simple actually. Asking for changes that are not "bizz like" here is stupid.

Do you have evidence to support your claim? Start by defining a "super nerd". Next provide evidence on how many there are on each side. Next define "casuals" and then show evidence that Horde have more of those. Also define who these "we" are that you talk about. Is that people (you) who join battlegrounds solo and loose to premades and base their opinion on this but then later present it as facts without evidence?

OOoooh this is great because what makes retail so fun is rushing through dungeons as fast as possible. /endsarcasm

Only problem are people's expectations.

Report the player in-game! Click the "?" and report character stuck, still stuck, and write the text + link to screenshot so that a GM can investigate. Hack or not, gambling is against the rules.

Well duuuuuuuuh, everyone and everything will die. Do you have a date when it will die? If anything, having a moderate amount of players is probably safer. I mean Nostalrius had a gazillion players and that didn't help now did it?

Well it's not really a gold-sink when you sell player2player, but yeah the Auction house have a small cut on everything and that's a goldsink.

How is it a goldsink exactly?

This is not due to inflation. It has to do with low supply and high demand. With inflation you have normal supply and normal demand but the value of the currency goes down. I don't think the reason a Black Lotus cost 150g is because the value of gold is low, i think it's because the Black Lotus is very rare and the demnd is very high. Also this is no way near the hyper inflation they had in Germany when they printed money to pay loans. They had 1 trillion - 1 000 000 000 000 decrease of currency value.