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:) But can't wait. TBC is from far away the best expansion

@ScottK1994 why are you asking question if you except one exact answer ? It's just stupid af. Naxx was not so hard and everybody assume but this is NOW. In the past only a little part of players was good enough in therms of gear optimization and knowledge to go. - Vanilla was hard because of 40 people raid group - Vanilla was hard because of time spent only in raid prep - Vanilla was hard because nobody was really knowing the game - Vanilla was hard because addon was not optimized as today The retail players who think Naxx was easy are in general people who was not inside and just take a look on some video as you. I was never in Naxx during Vanilla and for sure the strat are not so hard. But I can imagine how it looks hard without the knowledge we have now and the addon we are using. So if we can close this sterile conversation, memorize this. - Vanilla was harder than BC in therms of raid organization - Vanilla was harder than BC in therms of raid preparation - Vanilla was harder than BC in therms of Gear Optimization - BC was harder than Vanilla in therms of individual skills - BC was harder than Vanilla in therms of Boss strat - BC was harder than TLK in therms of raid preparation - BC was harder than TLK in therms of Gear Optimization (they add a lot of things in TLK to reach a good stuff lvl and go through ICC easily and it was not the case in BC) - BC was harder than TLK in therms of time consuming - TLK was harder than BC in therms of individual skills - TLK was harder than BC in therms of Boss strat You can more or less repeat this story till Legion. And you know why WoW is hard but far away from what an MMORPG should be. So yeah, BC was the perfect average.

@Ickus is 100% right. That's it. Depends of which way you are playing the game. For me BC was really the most average one in time consuming. Not hard as Vanilla, but you can see the difference between an hardcore player and a casual easily.

TBC was not so difficult. It's the perfect average between Vanilla and TLK weirdo.

Right. There is Chinese outside of China :D

@Keala let's hope this post is coming soon. Servers are now upgraded on new hardware (old one was efficient for Anathema) so sounds like something is coming. They don't want to reproduce the error from the past so they take the decision to upgrade everything before any official announcement about carac transfer or anything else. The way they are doing everything looks better than before (Nostalrius transfer/reopening was really chaotic). Since this TBC announcement I really feel like they are listening the community now and taking in general the "best" solution. Now one point is Benediction PTE. I don't know if they want to make two big announcement at the same time to equalize properly the population between every realm.

If their is nothing on your provider side maybe Elysium has to check there side... I don't know how the blocking mechanic are working for Elysium but maybe you have to take a look with them (IP or something else...) So for the moment issue in temporally fixed by using the VPN right ? Now cross finger and *summon a gm*

Y en avait pas un chez les Utopi récemment encore ?

Hi, was the same for me but a lot of different Questie version are existing. Check your version and try to download the latest one (but not the beta) from github Questie. Cannot provide you the link atm sry

So if it's working with a VPN for me it's a provider related issue. If the issue was coming from your PC doesn't matter of VPN or not issue will still the same. So now you can play with the VPN connection but open a ticket with your ISP and explain him it's working with a VPN. If he can't solved it I hope you don't have high latency with the VPN cause you will have to run it always when you play...

So ok, no packet loss... Have you tried to run a vpn to connect ? Sounds really strange for me, like an ISP provider restriction or a Firewall who don't allow the connection, but you are able to connect till the characters page. If it's working with the vpn application I suggest you to contact your ISP provider and explain the case properly. It look likes in any case we are not able to ping the logon.elysium-project.org but it sounds logic to have ICMP locked on server side... We will find the issue :)

If you are loosing some packets it will be really an issue. So you can try this : - Update router software (fix some instability issue for me some month ago) - Check lan cable and maybe change it - Change the port you are connected on the router - Change the network card in your pc at the end Just one question, you asked your ISP provider to check if you was not blocked, but have you check the line stability with him ? And if possible can you just send a screenshot of a simple ping to an public ip ? (8.8.8.8 for example) for 30/40 packets ?

Nop. Nop. And nop. We need more player not more account with the same guys on it. But maybe if you are schizophrenic you can have 2 account.

Can be a solution but now it's too late ! Most healthy and easy solution is to offer transfer from Elysium to Anathema and Darrowshire. But I think it's really hard to estimate how many players will transfer

Don't except something constructive when you are trying to destroy Vanilla experience :]

I'm playing on Anathema and it's so much easier to make money than Elysium. Farming is super easy, price are higher yeah so more easy to by mount and all NPC related stuff. But at the end it's the same for the AH (higher price for selling and buying don't have a real impact). I was really pissed off because of the low pop but now for me it's really cool (3k would be perfect). I feel like on retail, I was used of Nostalrius and the high pop so I wine a lot about this low pop issue but now it's ok. More hard to find player during the lvling for sure but at the end when you find someone you directly add him to your friend list and start to play with him. Now it's a big wait&see :)

It's now the time to find a solution. I don't know if it's only linked to the OVH server or just the core who can go over +7k ppl without loosing a lot of stability. At the end issue remain the same, Anathema will have Naxx released a few days. So they can't force players to move their characters on a realm with a different timeline. For sure let the people choose (and not only on Anathema but with Daro too sounds like a good idea. But with the TBC announcement I'm pretty sure they will offer something to Elysium players to transfer on Anathema.

You ask for suggestion on this topic ? I don't have suggestion for the actual way to transfer all the Server on different timeline on TBC but maybe just open transfer from Ely to Anathema. At the end I'm just dreaming of this : Vanilla, BC, TLK servers and every 2 years merge all the realm on the same version together and open a fresh Vanilla again , and migrate the most recent Vanilla to BC, BC to TLK and like this forever. 6 realm, 3 old, 3 fresh and the story never end.

Hi ! Don't be scared, it's not a transfer to TBC but a copy. So yes you char will be copied on a TBC server but still available on the Vanilla Server :) So at the end you can play both:)

Hi ! I don't know which class in particular but roll a shaman ! If you plan to progress into TBC after vanilla content it's a really good choice, all 3 specs are f*cking useful at the end. Good luck and welcome !

I'm on Anathema horde side ! But Anathema is at the end content and in some months (year, century, I don't know) will progress to TBC (theoretically before Elysium). So there is a lot of option for you :) Have a good start and lot of fun !

The last option you have at the end is the Crestfall server but it's not released atm. If you want to wait some few months you can make a fresh start on it with everyone (the server should be caped at 4/5k ppl online so maybe some queue but not overpopulated when playing). It will be a PTE server so Vanilla -> TBC -> TLK

You're right but there is another point we have to think about. Nostalrius ask Elysium to stop the usage of all the data they provide them and they stopped character migration from Nost to Anathema. This is one point who was hard for us and probably kill the server. Now we need to find solution without the Elysium staff because sorry : they don't give a shit of Anathema. So what we can do ? I have an idea, it would probably sounds stupid, but I don't care. Maybe we can start a sponsorship program. Create a topic with all the people who are ok to sponsor a new player with a proper list (name/faction/and on what he can help newcomer) We are all out of us because of this situation and the staff reaction but for me Nostalrius player are the Legacy fighter, let show our best part and stop create thread and thread about this. THEY DON'T CARE AT ALL. So let's find a solution by ourself.

We ask this so many times. But now Anathema pop is just beta tester for Elysium... Their is a lot of solution who can be found. But they don't give any kind of consideration to any of them. By Pottu on another topic : "Anathema and Elysium will not be merged as they are on different timelines. We are not currently looking at any options to either accelerate Elysium or "freeze" Anathema. We are still dedicated to bring to the end goal the dream that Nostalrius started - of a proper vanilla server going through the whole vanilla patch progress as closely Blizzlike as possible. So we are not going to вау over the remaining Anathema players and "freeze" their progress to allow Elysium to "catch up". Nor are we going to accelerate Elysium timeline in any major fashion, as that would be a literal slap in the face to most of the players there. Trust me, we have heard all possible arguments for and against this issue. And because this topic is repeatedly brought up, instead of posters reading the existing threads - we do have a search function - we now routinely lock the new threads. It has nothing to do with our communication standards or us being clueless retards." This is what they think now. We have to deal with or move to Elysium. This is my point of view: I will play until it became really impossible to do stuff (But sometimes don't have the motivation because of this, I reconnect yesterday after 5 days without connection) After that I will not reroll on Elysium just because of the consideration they gave us (hard to think something else with this message) but I will change of server. Their is some other project who sounds quit interesting (I don't give name, because for sure if this project is really released one day it will be a pain in the *ss for Elysium). So yeah, no more faith.

Good to now, I haven't see it before. But force people to go on Anathema can be hard regarding the timeline.