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No

It's not if it's true :P (which it is)

Prsina is half right, I've been running a horde premade all weekend and for the first 2 days, every game was a premade vs premade. It was amazing fun and great competition all around. This is actually one of the best and most even weekends (between horde and alliance) that I've ever seen on Elysium. However, after a little while the Chinese premades started to just roll over against us, they would either send 10 players to mid to try and farm kills and let us run flag, or they'd all sit on graveyard. This happens far less often with the Eu/Na rankers I've noticed.

More evidence to the point that the solution to the "problem" of alliance premades? Horde premades. If you don't like losing to premades, make a premade and beat them. Nobody real wants this change, the best pvp in vanilla is premade vs premade, don't spoil it to cater to people who play 2 hours of pvp a week. https://imgur.com/7kLDw8I

I understand them trying to make their own mark on the pserver scene, split off from the "Nostalrius 2.0" image they have and do their own thing. Regrettably, this is the worst possible way to do it. It's almost as though it's their attempt to make sure half the server population quits Elysium so it stops lagging.

@sabre that's not true :') People who have any understanding of the game and the implications of this change are complaining.

It's a shame, I'm having the most fun I've ever had on Elysium this wsg weekend. So many excellent premade vs premade games. I'm going to miss this.

Doesn't that sound great! Being able to queue battlegrounds with your friends? Wow! Imagine playing an MMO where you could do that Oh...Wait... :thinking:

Don't worry, if they implement this Elysium will successfully manage to kill their own project. You'll see it how you want to see it I guess, not my job to change your mind, but scroll up - Nostalrius posted on reddit that it's a mistake to do it too :')

@creeps1 that's not correct, a lot of players on Elysium played on Nostalrius/Kronos 1/2 or Feenix as well as retail vanilla before playing here. Quite a foolish sweeping statement really.

Astonishing.

@elysium. please take a look at this and reconsider. Who would know better than the people who tried this before? You're going to ruin your own project if you can't listen to reason. Doing this to a pvper is like forcing raiders to PuG raids and not play with their guilds/friends. It's a core part of the game experience for a lot of players and goes completely against the MMO spirit of the game. I'm not sure why you're making this decision, and I trust you have rational reasons for doing so, but it's quite obviously a mistake - particularly in light of the backlash you've received thisevening on Reddit/Forums since the announcement. We'd love an official response to this and to know what you intend to do, because it's quite clear that things can't continue as planned or you're risking a large portion of your playerbase.

I hope they see the error they're making here, they can't ignore their community like this, although, that is quite blizzlike too :D

"The Elysium Project was born from the desire to capture World of Warcraft in it's original state so that we might share our passion with the world once more." But we're gonna change the things that make it great. Thanks elysium!

I'm not sure what this change is intended to accomplish, but it's only going to ruin the pvp experience even further. You can't pretend to be a blizzlike server, and use that reasoning as a shield for decisions such as not updating pvp gear at sensible times and then make completely random un-blizzlike changes such as this. After Nostalrius went down, we had nowhere to go. We're here now, please don't make the same mistakes. Nostalrius did this and reverted the change 2 weeks after. Why was this? Because it doesn't fix anything, and it's a dreadful idea to begin with. You're only going to drive players away by removing the core part of the game for a lot of people. This is like removing raiding as an option for a pve player and saying "sorry, you can only do dungeons because it's not fair that everyone can't clear every raid" This game is a meritocracy, people aren't entitled to anything. Premades are a player created thing, with player create-able solutions. If you don't like facing premades, do what I did on horde and make your own premade and beat the alliance back, after all, it's what the game's about.