New Server, Elysium PVP - On the Backburner

[Vye 2]

   Before you react negatively on preconceived notions regarding the title – please take the time to read all of this, and if you haven’t read the newest announcement you should probably head to reddit – links below.

 

   First off, I’m so thankful for another opportunity to experience a high caliber legacy realm. I am very excited to see the team taking necessary precautions to ensure a safe launch. I will be attending the stress test November 20th, and I urge everyone to participate as it will lead to a more accurate reading of the server traffic. I will also be there for the second stress test November 27^th, and again I hope the significance of the test will persuade others. The data the team will gain from these stress tests will help them better prepare for the “storm” of players logging in come release date.

 

   Furthermore, reading that we have realm names now just helps me believe that this is REALLY happening. I remember registering on Nostalrius in March and my excitement was rather short lived. I also took part in the petition and submitted over a paragraph with my signature. I’ve followed the news and watched how Blizzard reacted to the public, and I had a slight hope that maybe Blizzcon would bring a shock, but before the event took place - Nostalrius made a promise and they kept that promise.

 

   Consequently, I’m not entirely satisfied and that’s okay because I’m just one person. This isn’t an act to riot over the news, and I’m not writing to rally up members to help fight against this decision. You guys came to a mutual agreement and I know there’s nothing that is going to change that; I know you guys are expecting to get a lot of negative feedback over the announcement. I’m not here to feed into that. Truthfully, I’m here just to help channel the opinions of everyone into one thread like civil people.

 

   I feel that the interval of time between the Nostalrius PVP realm and Elysium will have a detrimental effect on the great start I was hoping. Naturally, the tactic of trying to balance the player base will work, but why make this decision without the community? Yes, you’ve seen the polls and the majority speaks for itself. EVEN if I had a level 60 on Nostalrius, I’d still go for the fresh start. Why? Everyone loves starting a new without higher levels interfering in terms of economics, PVP, and overall consensus. Imagine if you released Elysium first; imagine all the people that didn’t get a chance at Nostalrius and all the people from Nostalrius that want a new start. You’ll have a launch that is greater than that of retail WoW and any other private party.

 

   Lastly, you’ve seen the impatience of the community. You know you’re taking away from Elysium by giving a month wait on our beloved start. We’ll lose people and I’m sure that is the intention. Maybe it is for the best, but I know there are more people that didn’t have a character on Nostalrius, that heard about the news and wanted a chance to play Vanilla; people that have never attempted to play on private server, and due to the sheer amount of volume and exposure the server got over the internet, they signed the petition and followed the train. I witnessed K2’s failure first hand, I noticed that some could play and other couldn’t during the race, and I don’t want that to happen here. I know the new server won’t happen this year, but I’ll still wait.

 

   In conclusion, I only have to make one last perspective apparent. Everyone isn’t here for their old characters. We’re here for the new server with Nostalrius core. Elysium PVP will be far greater than Nostalrius PVP. I’m not here to make this a war between realms; that will happen anyway. No one wants population pulled from their server or to play on a server that has a chance of becoming depopulated due to a new server. I’m just saying that releasing Nostalrius PVP beforehand is a wholly waste of time because the end result is inevitable. In advance, I'm sorry if this offends anyone - it is merely my opinion and just a bit of rambling.

 

 

 

Thank you,

Vye

 

 

Reddit link, announcement #2: https://www.reddit.com/r/ElysiumProject/comments/5cmsp7/announcement_2_realm_names_launch_order_stress/

 

Straw Poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/11589399/r

Edited November 12, 2016 by Vye

[Shayss 43]

Sigh, again with the strawpoll.

 

When will you people actually use your brains. Three things.

One: If you think that, after waiting 7 months after the shut down of Nostalrius (assuming you aren't just some fresh newcomer, in which case you don't really have a say in the matter) that waiting another 3-4 weeks is too much, then you are retarded.

 

Two: If you think that 3 servers is going to be enough to host the ammount of people this project is going to get, with time, will be enough, then you are retarded.

 

Three: I have 3 lvl 60s on Nost, Priest is BWL geared and Rogue and Shaman are both MC geared. I will be going to the fresh server because I have my own plans for this time round but I would not for one moment think to release the fresh server first. All of you cucks wanting the fresh server out first better understand that you wouldn't even be getting this damn fresh server if it wasn't for the mad, almost fanatical playerbase from the old nost server forming the community that you have here today.

 

I said it in another thread already but I'll say it here aswell.

 

Old PVP server launches. Load of players flock to it and pick up thier old chars or start new ones. Then 3-4 weeks down the line the Fresh server opens and all the people who wana reroll or start to join the project have a choice to join either of those. Then the PVE realm opens and carebears will flock there. Both PvP realms will most likely spill over and the PVE realm will get bigger but I wouldn't count on it reaching the size of the PvP realms. The old server will have less players than the fresh one and will diminish with time but only because it is half way through its lifecycle.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Shayss

[Vye 2]

Sigh, again with the strawpoll.

 

When will you people actually use your brains. Three things.

One: If you think that, after waiting 7 months after the shut down of Nostalrius (assuming you aren't just some fresh newcomer, in which case you don't really have a say in the matter) that waiting another 3-4 weeks is too much, then you are retarded.

 

Two: If you think that 3 servers is going to be enough to host the ammount of people this project is going to get, with time, will be enough, then you are retarded.

 

Three: I have 3 lvl 60s on Nost, Priest is BWL geared and Rogue and Shaman are both MC geared. I will be going to the fresh server because I have my own plans for this time round but I would not for one moment think to release the fresh server first. All of you cucks wanting the fresh server out first better understand that you wouldn't even be getting this damn fresh server if it wasn't for the mad, almost fanatical playerbase from the old nost server forming the community that you have here today.

 

I said it in another thread already but I'll say it here aswell.

 

Old PVP server launches. Load of players flock to it and pick up thier old chars or start new ones. Then 3-4 weeks down the line the Fresh server opens and all the people who wana reroll or start to join the project have a choice to join either of those. Then the PVE realm opens and carebears will flock there. Both PvP realms will most likely spill over and the PVE realm will get bigger but I wouldn't count on it reaching the size of the PvP realms. The old server will have less players than the fresh one and will diminish with time but only because it is half way through its lifecycle.

That stawpoll upsets you? Well, numbers don't lie. Its my opinion and you don't have to like it, but naturally this is an argument between a Elysium PVP enthusiast and upset Nostalrius player. The only way to save your server is if they do not release the fresh server, and then we don't have to worry about population issues because 60% of the population will leave.

 

The thing is, not everyone is going to commit to the stay anyway, Nostalrius or Fresh start. K1 died when when K2 released, and the same will happen here.  

Edited November 12, 2016 by Vye

[Vye 2]

If you think that this isn't just Nost under a different name then you are even more retarded than you sounded in that post you made earlier Papakoko.

Sorry, you're wrong the new people that came here are neither from Nostalrius, Kronos, Rebirth, Feenix, Valk, or Elysium.

 

A large percentage may have attempted this servers, but the majority are the people that wanted a fresh start when Nostalrius was up! We were late to the party, and we haven't been entirely satisfied with the alternative Vanilla realms. People are going to have to adapt, the fresh realm is going to take over, and the Nostalrius PVE realm will be more populated than Nostalrius PVP by the time its over.

[Shayss 43]

I know this might be hard for you, as an Elysium player, but listen closely. Nostalrius is waaaaaaaay bigger than Elysium ever was. There is no private server out there that has had even a fraction of the exposure Nost has created. If you think these servers will be like Kronos... or even that if only Old server releases, that the server won't be flooded (lol btw, lose 60% pop xD), then you are very very naive.

[Topkek 13]

i love this old server players xDDDD the strawpoll dont matter a фекал for them, ofc they have lose 6k vs 2k so better avoid the strawpoll hahaha poor sad retardeds

[Shayss 43]

Sorry, you're wrong the new people that came here are neither from Nostalrius, Kronos, Rebirth, Feenix, Valk, or Elysium.

 

A large percentage may have attempted this servers, but the majority are the people that wanted a fresh start when Nostalrius was up! We were late to the party, and we haven't been entirely satisfied with the alternative Vanilla realms. People are going to have to adapt, the fresh realm is going to take over, and the Nostalrius PVE realm will be more populated than Nostalrius PVP by the time its over.

 

That's just like, your opinion man, and just goes straight back to my point about the new and entitled players coming in.

 

Btw, saying the PVE realm will be more populated than the PVP realm by the time it is over is stupid. The PVE realm is relatively fresh, the old PvP realm is not. It is at AQ war effort. Obviously it will finish first.

[Noxm 1]

Whos the real retard here ... Nostalrius Shut down .. It is no more .. What ever clout you think you had there does not matter anymore..Sorry to piss in your cornflakes bud. This in not NOSTALRUIS . It's Elysium.. even if thay dedicate and name one or two of their server's after it..Even if they transfer the DB. It is NO MORE... We are all essentially new comers ...  Theres a new sheriff in town .. and the badge reads Elysium..  

 

hey you are wrong

 

I'm currently in the process of building a list of guilds that are currently looking into returning to the old Nostalrius PvP server when it gets relaunched. 

 

My intention with this list is to hopefully ease everybody's mind since I have seen a lot of doubt from the old community. I think many of us who played on the old server are worried about its future. Hopefully we can get a better picture of how the server is going to turn out once the list is finished. I am hopeful.

 

So far I have seen forum posts from a number of guilds, and I have also spoken to many representatives of various guilds myself and at the moment there are over 30 established old guilds that have either confirmed their plans, or are still discussing them.

 

 

source : http://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=44685

 

Making fresh start same day as old pvp server will be a mess, they need a lot of time to polish data / config to the new server.

 

I predict more than 10k player on fresh start, you will soon cry cause the server will DC/crash all week

 

i think all new incomer dont understand how it difficult for a mango server to old 10k new player in same zone, but i will leave you at your ignorance, cause you want it all now like crying babies crying for milk.

Edited November 12, 2016 by Noxm

[Vye 2]

Shayss is just a Nostalrius PVP player.

 

First off, I think he believes I'm an Elysium player? No, I came here because of Nostalrius, but when the team announced a new server I soon became a big fan, and so did majority of the Nostalrius population. I'm not trying to argue, I respect the fact that he doesn't want his server to die, but the fresh server will attract even more people that haven't came yet.

 

The amount of people that heard of Nostalrius before ever getting a chance to play are here waiting for the fresh start. 

[Triumph 0]

So... they are going to make this move to grab players for the new server to the old nostalrius but.... they even realized the fact of that this people wiating for the fresh server are going to the old PVP just for fun while they waiting for the new server and then the old pvp will explode?

[Vye 2]

So... they are going to make this move to grab players for the new server to the old nostalrius but.... they even realized the fact of that this people wiating for the fresh server are going to the old PVP just for fun while they waiting for the new server and then the old pvp will explode?

They are hoping that people will just stay since its probably going to take 3-4 weeks, maybe longer, before the new realm is released. I saw this happen to Kronos when they were having hella trouble keeping up with the DDOS. Everyone rolled on rebirth and some even stayed.

[Tijn 0]

When will you people actually use your brains.

I see you posting everywhere defending every decision being made, you remind me of a blizzard fan boy.

[Shayss 43]

More like people will get pissed and go to memefall for a real fresh start

 

Why? What will make Crestfall fresh start any more fresh that Nost 2.0?

 

Your impression that Crestfall, or any other private server for that matter, has even close to the same publicity that Nost has generated these past few months is beyond me. These servers are going to be packed to the brim.

[Shayss 43]

I see you posting everywhere defending every decision being made, you remind me of a blizzard fan boy.

 

Except I'm an old Nost PVP fanboy. I will be going to the fresh server (if you even read that) because I have my own plans that mesh well with the fresh start, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the damn community that built the driving force for a fresh server to be opened up in the first place.

 

My chars from old PVP server.

my priest - http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayss

my rogue - http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shays

my shaman - http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayys

 

That is what I am leaving behind, but not everyone wants to do that. You are an entitled little s.hit if you think the fresh server should get the leg up over the old server.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Shayss

[slarkstob 1]

We have thought long and hard about this decision. The staff is in unanimous agreement that the Nostalrius PvP realm will come first. We understand that the majority of players are looking forward to playing on the Elysium PvP fresh realm. However, there are significant reasons to launch the Nostalrius PvP realm before the fresh realm. The Nostalrius PvP server is the most significant aspect of this revival. A huge part of our success will be in the result of being able to bring your characters back. This will only add to the reputation and hype of the project, lending more respect and population. Population is also a large aspect of our choice. Releasing the Nostalrius PvP realm first will minorly effect the population of the fresh realm. However, based on polls, the Elysium fresh realm will have the most active players, and so by launching in this order, we effectively balance out the two servers. One last reason is bug fixes. By fixing bugs before launching the brand new server, we will be making it a far more pristine place early on, and in the future. However, do not fear! There will only be a 3-4 week period between Nostalrius PvP and the fresh realm.

 

Read it & Read it again.

 

This decision wasn't made lightly. This team is doing unbelievable things.

 

Not to mention, 3-4 weeks is nothing compared to the 10 years I've been waiting.

 

Join me for a cold beer, chillout, cheers.

Edited November 13, 2016 by slarkstob

[trash656 0]

I don't see how calling people retards, tell them too get Sh i t on and other names is really mature or a constructive way to get your argument across. Most people stop reading when all they are reading is "You NO AGREE? YOU DUMB DUMB!"

[Trinity 1]

They really need to word filter 'entitled' to 'someone who has a different opinion than I do that I don't agree with' on the forums. Getting tired of seeing that buzzword, people use all the time on the retail forums and now it's bleeding over here too

Edited November 13, 2016 by Trinity

[Shayss 43]

They really need to word filter 'entitled' to 'someone who has a different opinion than I do that I don't agree with' on the forums. Getting tired of seeing that buzzword, people use all the time on the retail forums and now it's bleeding over here too

 

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[–]SLO7H 1 point

54 minutes ago

 

Your reason for the server launch order is terrible. The majority will be playing on the fresh server. The majority want a fresh restart, you gotta understand that there weren't that many lvl 60's in the previous Nostalrius. And people want everyone to start out fresh.

You should launch the fresh server first! Then later the server that already have characters.

I am not pleased at all. So basically, the majority have to wait 3-4 weeks longer than the minority??

 

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This post on the QnA is the reason why we can't have propper dialogue -.-

Edited November 13, 2016 by Shayss

[Vye 2]

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[–]SLO7H 1 point

54 minutes ago

 

Your reason for the server launch order is terrible. The majority will be playing on the fresh server. The majority want a fresh restart, you gotta understand that there weren't that many lvl 60's in the previous Nostalrius. And people want everyone to start out fresh.

You should launch the fresh server first! Then later the server that already have characters.

I am not pleased at all. So basically, the majority have to wait 3-4 weeks longer than the minority??

 

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This post on the QnA is the reason why we can't have propper dialogue -.-

You just said the majority want the fresh start. The majority are people that didn't have a chance to play on Nostalrius.

 

Old Nostalrius players are not the majority, arguing with you is rather pointless.

 

I know the fresh server isn't coming first, but don't don't the numbers confused - you're the minority with the PVE players. 

[Shayss 43]

Minority doesn't matter in this case. Respect and trust does.

 

Respect the people who made the community in the first place.

 

Trust is given when the players are given thier server with their chars back.

 

Majority who voted for the fresh server are not a part of that community or have not invested time in Nostalrius.

 

As you do not understand this , I agree, arguing with you is rather pointless.

[Trinity 1]

I fail to understand your point, Shayss. The post you're referencing is clearly wrong about how many 60's existed, but I don't see anything wrong with the rest of his post. Just a guy airing his disagreement and giving his reasoning behind it. Because you don't agree with him, that makes him entitled? Wew lad.

[Vye 2]

Minority doesn't matter in this case. Respect and trust does.

 

Respect the people who made the community in the first place.

 

Trust is given when the players are given thier server with their chars back.

 

Majority who voted for the fresh server are not a part of that community or have not invested time in Nostalrius.

 

As you do not understand this , I agree, arguing with you is rather pointless.

No, I get it! I do!

 

But the end result is inevitable, Nostalrius will die when Elysium is released.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Vye

[Shayss 43]

I fail to understand your point, Shayss. The post you're referencing is clearly wrong about how many 60's existed, but I don't see anything wrong with the rest of his post. Just a guy airing his disagreement and giving his reasoning behind it. Because you don't agree with him, that makes him entitled? Wew lad.

 

Errrrr? Because he is acting entitled? Forgive me if i'm wrong but he said minority are the old players. Like it gives the majority that voted fresh some kind of special privilege over the people who formed the community in the first place.

 

That is the definition of entitled.

 

I personally, am going fresh. Sure I would like it out asap but I don't mind waiting that extra few weeks. This is the respect I will give the other old players (Myself included since I am  dropping 3 x geared 60s on old pvp realm) because I am not an entitled kid.

 

Edit:

better post my chars before he calls bullshit right -.-

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayss

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shays

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayys

Edited November 13, 2016 by Shayss

[Vye 2]

Errrrr? Because he is acting entitled? Forgive me if i'm wrong but he said minority are the old players. Like it gives the majority that voted fresh some kind of special privilege over the people who formed the community in the first place.

 

That is the definition of entitled.

 

I personally, am going fresh. Sure I would like it out asap but I don't mind waiting that extra few weeks. This is the respect I will give the other old players (Myself included since I am  dropping 3 x geared 60s on old pvp realm) because I am not an entitled kid.

 

Edit:

better post my chars before he calls bullshit right -.-

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayss

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shays

http://realmplayers.com/CharacterViewer.aspx?realm=NRB&player=Shayys

This is the second time you've posted your characters. I never neglected to believe, and If I failed to acknowledge your characters - it was because your characters are irrelevant to the matter at hand. The point I was trying to make is that we have over ten thousand people anticipating a fresh server. Sure, we'll fool around on Nostalrius when its released in case Elysium PVP is pushed back a two months, but I myself have no intention of staying there. I have been arguing that its pointless for a bunch of people to enjoy their old characters when they'll be abandoning them for new characters. This is the case and you also admit that this is your goal as well - unless you're just lying to come off as a mutual party. We both know that isn't true.

 

My guess is you'll be one of the many people that will auction off their characters. It's brilliant really - you think I'm stupid? EVERYONE is going to sell their accounts, and I bet the staff really hasn't put much thought into it, but you have people claiming they'll leave Nostalrius for the new Elysium servers, and you think they're not going to sell their gold and characters? It works so perfectly for them! The anticipated wait of Nostalrius returning is over, and you have all these people that are going to reap the benefits, and they don't lose anything they're heading over to Elysium to restart and repeat essentially.

 

Okay, maybe not everyone is going to do this, but I'm going to reveal to you that A LOT IS. I'm going to expose every person that tries to RMT their account and gold and report them directly to the staff - even if I have to imitate a potential customers. That's what pisses me off. That these people get their beloved database back and their server first so that they can just dick around and sell all their фекал.

 

Well, you've given them trust - watch what they do with your trust.

 

You think I'm kidding? Got facebook? Head over the to the Kronos page - look at the last 3 months alone. Everyone selling their account to start on the juicy new server. I can give you every website that involves black market listings. I know this "secondary market" all too well. 

[Shayss 43]

I hadn't thought of this. Good point on the character selling. However this was not your original point and it also does not reflect that there is a large group of players from the old PvP realm that wish to continue.

 

Wether they sell thier chars or not is irrelevant to me. I already have plans for the fresh realm.

 

Edit:

Just a quick mention, Nost did have detection in place for people selling accounts and those people were permabanned. I would assume the same thing would be re-enforced now as it was then.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Shayss