Sandor Clegane 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) -Well this is mainly to the devs and the role players here if i say so , to start we have already four active realms in regards of the population and the aspects of the gameplay which are the pvp and the pve ,and what i would love to see , is a role play realm to be honest , maybe one of this four , or a new fresh realm , well this is your decision after all ! , because i'm pretty sure if you "try" to role play in one of these Pve and Pvp realms you will get trolled and that's for sure , and this kills the role play experience for me to be honest , and i know there are role players around in both factions in this four realms which is pretty exciting from the start , and adding to that , for example the most populated realms in retail are the Role play realms like Moon Guard and Wyrmrest Accord......and so on . And i'm sure this will be a good idea for the role players in the other servers who wants to join this "Future realm" ? , please met me know , and thank you. Edited January 15, 2017 by Sandor Clegane 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorak 1 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 (edited) To be honest, I dont like those massive "RP" realms, where RP is only a little part of the game ... if you want to feel the true RP, you need a real HC RP realm, with bunch of rules, very detailed lore specified for the age you are playing right now, and so on, and so on ... I know what I am talking about, was on HC RP scene for about 3 years. The other thing is, that mostlly kids playing in here, which fact puts the quality down a lot. And it is not game for everyone ... People has to understand, that RP is not about yaaaay, gona kill some biiiiig badie. It is about life, mostly chat-based and small roles are mmore than needed for realistic world ... farmer, woodcutter, bard, Physician, Bartender .. And really much more. Next thing is, that you need a serious core changes .. like hunger/thirst buffs, door system (open/close), fall change (not just ratio from config, but you need to rewrite the detection range), and then, there are some other client changes, like new proffesions like joinery (woodwork), alchemy (two directions like high alchemy (lab alchemy) and nature alchemy (like countryside people "alchemy") and so on, you need custom mobs, you need custom titles, you need custom reputations, you need in some cases custom maps, you might need custom models from higher expansions .... and much more ... And most importantly, you need to organize events, evolve lore, and check the situation, you need to cooperate with players so they have the chance to evolve the lore. The team must be a part of the game... The other thing is, that this can be doable only with wotlk expansion, as on others, there are big limits of what can be edited in client (for pre-wotlk are not fan-made tools because noone really worked on them back then, and for post-wotlk expansions, there are limitations form blizzard, new coding, more complicated client ...) Whole this would need a separate project team. You have no idea, how much work it takes to acheieve believably real world. And for well semi RP realm ... the truth is, that this ends the same everywhere ... noone is roleplaying. Everyone is farming in the different corner of the world. Everyone wants to be the most baddass multikill harvester ... and that always ends in Dungeon or on PVP battlefield ... whch has nothing to do with RP ... So for me ... no Players will not be disciplined enough to handle real RP and the team would need like 20 more GMs, game Mods and developers to make it.... (seriously, in our country, there are small HC RP realms, played on one locked map, where there are like 5-10 server team for comunity with like 250ACCs in total with max 40ppl in peaks, and some of the regular players are coordinated with team like storytellers with extended competence.... Nothing really doable, of there will be several thousands people logged in and half of them will not know, what actually RP is and for RP situations, they will run (in better case) or ask you a question, what the hell are you doing, followed by duel spam or running and jumping around ... Edited January 15, 2017 by Zorak 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TechnoMulen 1 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 *giggles in spanish* 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorak 1 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Oh, that thing I have almost foorgotten ...RP requires fluent english. This is international server, where english native speakers makes only a small % of community. Other people can write about basic things, but I really do not think, that everyone will be able to write about some historic things, or forfessional things (like I do not think that 2 non-native speakers will be able to speac on topic like processes used in smelting ores and processing it into weapons and armor) - just an example .... these are complicated topics, that people maybe can uderstand in their native language, but they definitely do not know the terms in english. Any RP like that would take very long time, while players will be writing things twice (or actially three times), once into the google translator, once into the game and once the other player once again into the translator to his native language... 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandor Clegane 0 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 - Listen i respect and understand your opinion , i played World of Warcraft in retail for 2 years now , and mainly because of the RolePlay experience , and i know exactly what are you talking about , especially the thing with learning the lore , and players ages , and organizing events , and most importantly knowing how to role play in general , what i'm talking about is i don't want a "hardcore" realm only for role playing , because i know this will be impossible for a private server to do that ! and to have a realm only for RP , right ?! , because as you know , retail have a few features for the role play realms like additional NPCs and proffesions.....ect , but BUT what i would love to see "maybe" , is to dedicate one of this four realms at least for one RP/Pve realm , but with the Pve/~RP restriction , so the role players that are dispersed in this four realms will join this RP/Pve realm , and speaking about the languages , i'm sure this won't be a problem at all , let's face it , all this realms are international right ? why there are no problems of communication ?! and don't get me wrong it's the same thing about RP. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zorak 1 Report post Posted January 15, 2017 Just to correct you .. HC RP servers are doable. But not for that amount of players. There must be almost 100% supervision, if players act like they should act at HC RP server. Anyway, for casual RP server ... maybe it is doable, still, I am afraid, there will be an extra team for that needed. Anyone, who already has experience from RP servers. or for expample some HC "Dragons lair" players (in here, I don't know, if the dragons lair is the name in english for that, this is a direct translation from my language, it is the spoken game played by a table, with game master/story teller, you also play your character, you say what you want to do, you throw dices for chances and so on ... )... The core things we need to define, is "What level of RP will be set" (how casual it will be) and What will be the tollerance for non-RP actions near Roleplaying characters. And the balance between RP and normal content. Then, there should be definitely a way, how to transfer characters between realms. I dont think, I will want to exp up the same character twice just to play on realm, where I can MAYBE play RP from time to time ... And about the language ... I think it WILL be a problem ... English for normal gaming is quite sufficient, there is dozen on situations you need to handle in normal gameplay, what you ask for, what you explain to others ... probably the most difficult english is used in boss tactics problems .... but in general, you can play with a very limited vocabulary and still be able to communicate. But for RP realms, you need andvanced language skill to be able explayin yourself on specific and sometimes hardly explainable topics ... and that can do just a few people (compared to server population) 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandor Clegane 0 Report post Posted January 16, 2017 - Let's not argue about the role play realm features , because i'm sure the devs won't bother themselves adding some new role play characteristics to one of this realms , and hey ! the role play community is getting biger and biger in this one , people here are asking everyday about RP , you only need to check the forums deeper , and before i forget we can't decide here if we make a RP/Pve or RP/Pvp realm only by comparing this realms to retail and giving our opinions and disagreements , and you can't tell me "no" neither "yes", i know you are against it but it's a suggestion after all , and it's up to the devs to answer , the role players in this server are spread across four realms remember ? , and i'm giving this idea to the devs so we can bring all the role players in one server that's all and nothing more than this , i'm not asking for a hardcore role play realm with the role play features like retail , i'm just asking/suggesting/proposing that we change one of this four realm into one RP/Pve or RP/Pvp ------------->Nothing more than this<---------------. 0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
