The Light and How to Swing It! - Drakova & Esfand Ret Paladin Guides

[Esfand 0]

Hey everyone, we've gotten a lot of requests for some more tutorial types of videos so Drakova and I are kicking off a series of these called "The Light and How to Swing It!" if we get good feedback from this, we'll continue highlighting different Ret paladin specs/builds. Hope you guys enjoy!

 

 

Edited April 4, 2017 by Esfand

[Theloras 108]

lolret

:P

hi drakova!

[killerduki 54]

Regarding your Talent tree , if you don't mind , i want to point out :

Spiritual focus is not good for Ret PVE dps , same as Repentance .

The both Talents can be used for more Intellect - more DPS and less mana for your Judges - more DPS for long time.

More Judges of Command max rank = more Vengeance procs and more DPS .

And yep Intellect is viable stat for more DPS , people underestimate this stat for Retribution Paladin too much unfortunately :(

Here is log from our Paladins owning meters thanks to non warrior Gear , using JoTC and Intellect in their Gear owning the Legendary Paladin :

https://legacy-logs.com/Vanilla/Rankings/Table/?server=0&faction=0&mode=0&type=-1&id=00000000000000000000000000000000000001&class=8

The rest i enjoyed the Video regardless of my opinions.

I like the part at 10:00 when you spoke about Bugs fixed and Elysium Paladins doing more dps than other projects for that :)

/Kind regards Killerduki

Edited April 4, 2017 by killerduki

[kupo 0]

nice vid.  what enchant do you think is best for ret pallies on elysium? 

[sirtokealot 0]

I liked this video it was very informative. make sure you cover a pvp spec as well, and a reckoning spec. maybe how some of the skills scale with ap vs spell power

[Esfand 0]

Thanks for the feedback guys!

Killerduki it's good that you mention the Divine Int and Repentance, we actually talked about that but cut it out along with some random givverish to reduce the time of the video by about 10 minutes... But after we released it we realized that there's a handful of things we actually didn't mention that we should have so we're going to make Volume 2 a Part 2 of PvE ret to explain more stuff such as enchants and some other stuff we've been asked about since we put this video out.

Thanks again guys, I'll just keep posting future "The Light and How to Swing It!" videos in this thread!

[killerduki 54]

I do welcome you to join in one of my Groups for Paladins combo if you play Anathema ;)

You can enjoy with some lovely 3 fecta paladins tricks ^^

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Esfand 0]

12 hours ago, killerduki said:

I do welcome you to join in one of my Groups for Paladins combo if you play Anathema ;)

You can enjoy with some lovely 3 fecta paladins tricks ^^

/Kind regards Killerduki

Ahh I wish, but we just play on Elysium :-(

 

Here is Volume 2/Part 2!

[killerduki 54]

TL:DR (sorry for this and my poor English, since you are doing amazing job with you lovely Video Guide)

Another thing to add since i enjoyed your part 2 :

Seal of Command currently get from 14 AP - 1 damage, but in archives i have found that Seal of Command should also work similar like white hits , 14 AP = 1 damage per 1.0 weap speed (just like you explained for white hits and weapon speed) Apparently in private server this is unknown bug and it is everywhere.

Regarding Seal of Command resisting - It is indeed Holy and can't get Full Resist , but you can do partial resists on Higher Level targets according to 15 Resistance (only partial resist) . Which mean for Boss you will have around 30%+- chance to resist 25% of the damage , 15% (around) chance to resist 50% of the damage , 2% (around) chance to resist 75% of the damage while 45% (around) will do Full damage.  (Same for JoC/JoR/Exorcism/Holy Wrath/Hammer of Wrath).

JoR - Exorcism - Holy Wrath work according to Spell Hit rule , so they have chance to full resist (according to spell miss rate).

JoC - can resist only if you lack melee hit rating.  (you was correct on that).

Hammer of Wrath can't full resist but it can miss if you lack melee hit rating.

And when you said regarding Spell Damage and Seal of Command , actually you was correct , Spell Damage increase lot more damage to Seal of Command rather than Attack Power .

Currently in your server Elysium , the PVP Gear is Best in Slot forever for you until you have 1.9 T2 Gear thanks to Spell Damage and Intellect with Str combo.

When you spoke about Enchants, Agi>Str always , regarding the 15 Agi you are correct but when you said Libram to go Str was actually incorrect because  8 Agi > 8 Str thanks to Vengeance boosting the whole damage by 15% (when you have white crit + command) it is more than 15% ;) .

Remember Seal of Command and Judgement of Command also scale from Agility (Crit) , so your Base crit as Paladin (for logical thing) count as double since it work on Special Abilities and White Swings at the same time.

Hit>Crit>Agi>Spell Damage>Strength in combination with Intellect/Mp5.

Speaking about Weapon - You are correct regarding Speed etc , but you still want some Weapon that have proc (not speaking actually about nightfall since it is disaster dps) , Sulfuron Hammer (Epic Version) probably cost fortune , but what many underestimate this weapon is the proc.

Procs from Weapons like Sulfuron Hammer (Legend and Epic Version) if it crit can trigger Vengeance , same as Maelstrom Trinket and LBRS Proc Trinket . (In Elysium you have Maelstrom) , they can all proc Vengeance like nerds and keep your dps always increased by 15% , thanks to Agility your damage will be crazy.

What is the point behind Intellect and why it is so good and many underestimate this stat ?

Intellect increase the chance for procs by Weapons/Trinkets to crit , Intellect allows you to spam more Judgement of Commands that can trigger more Procs and more Crits by Agi to keep Vengeance uptime , Intellect allows you to spam more Consecrations (for aoe only) , Intellect allows you to spam more Hammer of Wraths for execution which can also Crit and proc Vengeance.

This is where intellect actually increase your dps .

Currently in Elysium you can find items like Int+Agi (similar like hunter) which are much better for you rather than using the Warrior Str Gear .

Here is an example from the Gear access for you (not 100% accurate but example only) :

Every single list consist with hit cap items.

 

Without PVP items list of Preraid BiS (current patch):

[slashclaw Bracers]

[Lionheart Helm]

[battleborn Armbraces]

[Lightforge Spaulders]

[Lightforge Breastplate]

[Lightforge Gauntlets]

[Lightforge Belt]

[Lightforge Legplates]

[Lightforge Boots]

[Mark of Fordring]

[Windshear Cape]

2x[Tarnished Elven Ring]

[Hand of Justice]

[Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom]

(if immune on nature swap to)

[blackhand's Breadth]

[sulfuron Hammer]

 

With PVP Items list of Preraid BiS (current patch):

(will exclude field marshal since it is extra hard to achieve)

[Lionheart Helm]

[Lieutenant Commander's Lamellar Shoulders]

[Knight-Captain's Lamellar Breastplate]

[Knight-Lieutenant's Lamellar Gauntlets]

[Knight-Captain's Lamellar Leggings]

[Knight-Lieutenant's Lamellar Sabatons]

[Warpwood Binding]

[Windshear Cape]

[slashclaw Bracers]

[Don Julio's Band]

[Tarnished Elven Ring]

[Hand of Justice]

[Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom]

(if immune on nature swap to)

[blackhand's Breadth]

[sulfuron Hammer]

 

Without PVP Items list of BiS Forever (current patch):

[Runed Bloodstained Hauberk]

[Primalist's Linked Waistguard]

[Wristguards of True Flight]

[Crown of Destruction]

[black Brood Pauldrons]

[seafury Leggings]

[seafury Gauntlets]

[Malignant Footguards]

[Puissant Cape]

[Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom] (if immune on nature swap to another) [Hand of Justice] / [blackhand's Breadth]

[Drake Fang Talisman] (if over hit cap swap to) [Hand of Justice] / [blackhand's Breadth]

[Onyxia Tooth Pendant]

[band of Accuria]

[band of Jin]

[sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros]

 

With PVP Items list on BiS Forever (current patch):

[Field Marshal's Lamellar Chestplate]

[Primalist's Linked Waistguard]

[Wristguards of True Flight]

[Field Marshal's Lamellar Faceguard]

[Field Marshal's Lamellar Pauldrons]

[Marshal's Lamellar Gloves]

[Marshal's Lamellar Boots]

[Puissant Cape]

[Darkmoon Card: Maelstrom] (if immune on nature swap to another) [Hand of Justice] / [blackhand's Breadth]

[Drake Fang Talisman] (if over hit cap swap to) [Hand of Justice] / [blackhand's Breadth]

[Onyxia Tooth Pendant]

[band of Accuria]

[Don Julio's Band]

[sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros]

 

Enchants (current patch):

8 Agility = Helm/Legs

7 Agility = Gloves

15 Agility = Weapon

9 Strength = Bracer

7 Agility = Feets

18 Spell damage = Shoulders

 

Mandatory Consumes (current patch) :

[Flask of Supreme Power]

[Greater Arcane Elixir]

[Elixir of the Mongoose]

[Elixir of the Sages]

[Elixir of Greater Intellect]

[Elixir of Giants]

[Elemental Sharpening Stone]

 

And here is BiS Forever  Click here for 1.12 Patch Gear only.

 

Here is example Paladins from our Guild (with our current progress and Gear) , topping the Paladin DPS Ranks thanks to the itemization which consist Intellect in it (items like Int+Agi or Int+Crit) combo (that was example) : Click to see the Ranks from our Paladins using Int Gear owning Legendary Geared Paladin using Warrior Gear (The Blooders Guild and check their Gear compare to other Paladins).

p.s i subscribed to your channel ;)

/Kind regards Killerduki

[killerduki 54]

I will post this here for you , because you deserve it !

/Kind regards Killerduki

[Bagger 0]

Again what is the rotations on trash and on bosses? 

And when you're leveling should you go for consecration first or just straight to the Seal of Command ?

[Smiter 9]

Judge Crusader or Wisdom> Seal of Command> Drop conse> Judge command off CD and in between auto attacks.... that is how every pull starts

The actual ability prio is: Judge Crusader/wis>Judge command> conse 

Seal of Command first when leveling, conse costs too much mana and does not do enough damage when leveling unless it is in an AoE situation