R10 blue item updates.

[Vollfos 2]

bullshit, you can reach the blue rank 10 gear in 4-5 weeks easyly with bracket 3 , 40 people getting in bwl 2,5 items per boss  + onyxia/ ragnaros its 10 bosses +2,5 items = 25 items per week (ony 5 days i know) 

you can get with reputation rewards from the pvp faction about 8-9 good items. compared to get 9 items in raids  (9 itemsslots devided 0,625 items per week = 14 weeks to get the same amount of items , yeah its easier to get from the time amount, but you have to wait normally way longer to get that itemsbecause you never know when they drop and if you get the .And you can get pretty much for every itemslot another nonset item in mc/ony/wb/bwl as a bis thing. so cry about the blue set just because you are not willing to invest time ( why you dont go for the epic pvp set if you dont like the blue one ) and dont say its too much time, then dont cry about it , thats the pvp system in vanilla and everyone should know it.

 

and even when you now say bla chinese spent more time bla.  make your own premade. be better then alliance/horde and grind your way. 

alot of people are here to have that kind of gamefeeling. and been something like shadow priest. the pvp items were created to make pvp not that people get in pvp their bis items for raiding. this is not retail ( and thats why blizzard implemented resilence in tbc, to have that diffrence between pvp and pve)

 

 

[Spriest4lyfe 0]

47 minutes ago, Vollfos said:

bullshit, you can reach the blue rank 10 gear in 4-5 weeks easyly with bracket 3 , 40 people getting in bwl 2,5 items per boss  + onyxia/ ragnaros its 10 bosses +2,5 items = 25 items per week (ony 5 days i know) 

you can get with reputation rewards from the pvp faction about 8-9 good items. compared to get 9 items in raids  (9 itemsslots devided 0,625 items per week = 14 weeks to get the same amount of items , yeah its easier to get from the time amount, but you have to wait normally way longer to get that itemsbecause you never know when they drop and if you get the .And you can get pretty much for every itemslot another nonset item in mc/ony/wb/bwl as a bis thing. so cry about the blue set just because you are not willing to invest time ( why you dont go for the epic pvp set if you dont like the blue one ) and dont say its too much time, then dont cry about it , thats the pvp system in vanilla and everyone should know it.

 

and even when you now say bla chinese spent more time bla.  make your own premade. be better then alliance/horde and grind your way. 

alot of people are here to have that kind of gamefeeling. and been something like shadow priest. the pvp items were created to make pvp not that people get in pvp their bis items for raiding. this is not retail ( and thats why blizzard implemented resilence in tbc, to have that diffrence between pvp and pve)

 

 

Sorry it's harder for a casuals perspective. I don't get to Plum bob it all day at my computer.    Raiding is easier for your prime time only casuals with 2-3 hrs play time a day. Why do I feel the hardcore MC RAIDER biases on this thread. 

I'm not crying I am not even 60 yet. Just think it's pretty stupid. Sounds like you'll be the one crying when they do update it and you spent all that time raiding and a fresh 60 runs across you in a blue set and 360 windmills you. 

[Shedur 2]

The Upgraded Blue PvP Set is needed now and not with 1.11 for a healthy PvP Community. Right now it makes absolutely 0 sense to rank to only R10 because the blue set is shit for the most classes. Please change that like it was on Nostalrius that more ppl start to do PvP. You made so many non-blizzlike changes because it's 2017 and because of the high population, and these changes are needed, so why stick to Blizzlike with the Blue Set?

Thanks

[Spriest4lyfe 0]

57 minutes ago, Shedur said:

The Upgraded Blue PvP Set is needed now and not with 1.11 for a healthy PvP Community. Right now it makes absolutely 0 sense to rank to only R10 because the blue set is shit for the most classes. Please change that like it was on Nostalrius that more ppl start to do PvP. You made so many non-blizzlike changes because it's 2017 and because of the high population, and these changes are needed, so why stick to Blizzlike with the Blue Set?

Thanks

I agree 110% +1

[Myllz 8]

As someone who both raids (6/8 BWL) and PvPs (R9), the blue set should be updated now. I have no dog in this fight since I have access to both gear types, but the current PvP blue set is honestly useless. I only bought one piece of the set and that's because I've had absolute garbage luck getting T1 or T2 legs. 

[Sabre 5]

Should keep it blizzlike.

[Vollfos 2]

i have 8/8 bwl , i have rank 12  , and i work 45-50 hours a week. its just all organisation!  i made my own premade with rank 9. and i never used one piece of the blue pvp gear, and why ? mc gear was easier and better...

 

its 2017 everybody could know before he starts pvping that the set is not as good then epics from mc/ bwl . 

 

i dont get it. on the other hand there is no point ! for that update ! and why ? because the blue pvp 1.10 gear is for alot of classes/speccs better then t1 , which should never be the case at this state of the server timeline. and if you really want to play pvp you dont need even the shit blue pvp gear. just because its all about teamwork/tactic  not gear in bg´s , in open pvp it is , but then you have to deal with it.

 

and saying that the pvp player comunity needs that set for more pvp is stupid , 90% of the player would take it for pve and would just play pvp for the set to get pve advantages. 

that is not the case why it should get updated! 

they could implement that you can use the pvp set only in battlegrounds, or either dont use the blue set  in dungeons/raids, its easy to implement . and then you would have the same player cry about that they cant use their " PvP gear " for pve.

 

so dont cry and  get other gear.  and btw, with bwl gear, you dont want the blue pve gear anyway. and i bet  the same people who cry now about not having the 1.10 itemset cry to get punched from ashkandi warrior or getting 2 shotted from nefarian geared casters.

 

git gud

[Myllz 8]

2 hours ago, Vollfos said:

90% of the player would take it for pve and would just play pvp for the set to get pve advantages. 

that is not the case why it should get updated! 

they could implement that you can use the pvp set only in battlegrounds, or either dont use the blue set  in dungeons/raids, its easy to implement . and then you would have the same player cry about that they cant use their " PvP gear " for pve.

 

So?  The only real place where that would really matter is MC, and who cares about MC?  If you're having trouble clearing MC having the set bonuses from the blue gear isn't going to make the difference.

[Vollfos 2]

then say me which reason it should have to update then the gear ? if you say its garbage even the updated one, then there is no reason for it.

[Myllz 8]

36 minutes ago, Vollfos said:

then say me which reason it should have to update then the gear ? if you say its garbage even the updated one, then there is no reason for it.

The reason is to reward people ranking with something that isn't useless.  Where people use the items doesn't matter.

[Spriest4lyfe 0]

2 hours ago, Myllz said:

The reason is to reward people ranking with something that isn't useless.  Where people use the items doesn't matter.

This^ it will get more people in BG's and also shorten up the queue times. Because as of right now unless you are gonna poop sock it to r13-14 there is no reason at all the even queue up.

[Vollfos 2]

alliance has instant queues, perhaps you doing it wrong. your rank should be reward enough. and been less then rank 11 .. there is no need to reward anything, you can easy get rank 11 with been hafl afk , its just been a thing of time.

 

and you wrote its easy to get t1 , so why getting blue gear for pvp ? like i said you dont need that blue gear, to be good. 

[Spriest4lyfe 0]

7 minutes ago, Vollfos said:

alliance has instant queues, perhaps you doing it wrong. your rank should be reward enough. and been less then rank 11 .. there is no need to reward anything, you can easy get rank 11 with been hafl afk , its just been a thing of time.

 

and you wrote its easy to get t1 , so why getting blue gear for pvp ? like i said you dont need that blue gear, to be good. 

You are correct. Don't know the class you play. But I will 1v1 in whatever gear I hit 60 in. Bo3 500g. IG name? 

You get rewarded for raiding why can't we get rewarded for PvPing? 

[Myllz 8]

10 minutes ago, Vollfos said:

alliance has instant queues, perhaps you doing it wrong. your rank should be reward enough. and been less then rank 11 .. there is no need to reward anything, you can easy get rank 11 with been hafl afk , its just been a thing of time.

 

and you wrote its easy to get t1 , so why getting blue gear for pvp ? like i said you dont need that blue gear, to be good. 

With that logic, shouldn't killing bosses in raids be reward enough?  Why bother having raid loot?

[Vollfos 2]

i dont care about raid loot. im raiding since 5  month now and passed most of the bis items just because to make others happy ;) 

for me you are right getting a boss killed in best possible performance or with hard circumstances is enough for me.

and duelling me in a 1v1 ? whats that shit ? XD 

 

im against updating the gear before its current patch, but i mean elysium already stated that it gets updates earlier (2 weeks after opening aq ) so there is no cry about more. 

and btw with zg ( in octobre) even the the 1.10 gear will be outdated for many classes

 

like i said , i leaded my own premade even with no experiance in bg leading and proper tactics or flasks like others. and we did well , its nothing about gear. its all about who has the better tactic setup and coordination.

and against randoms its just stack as much high ranked players ( which ends in more afk pugs) for faster games 

[Fell 0]

17 hours ago, Vollfos said:

then say me which reason it should have to update then the gear ? if you say its garbage even the updated one, then there is no reason for it.

Whats the point ranking up, spending so much time in BG, if you dont get any rew for it, that would actually effect your gameplay? Rank system in vanilla is just a grind.
Achievement getting high rank is shit, it doesn't show ur PVP skill or anything, just shows you got nothing else better to do, then farm 8h a day for weeks to get that r13... Its not like arena ratings or similar rank systems in other games. Here its just who spends more time in BG, gets more ranking progress...
You talk about making premades and be better on tacs and coordination. Its mostly that premades play against pugs win in 5 mins and queue next, for maximum honor gain. If u are up against an other premade, you dodge them next time, so you can play again against pugs again. And so on... Is that fair? Its broken!
Not enough ppl who wants to PVP cause there is no reason for it, no decent rewards. There are those few ppl premade grps who aim for r13, r14. Who daily do PVP for hours and hours to reserve all top brackets, making it hard to those who want to want pvp on their free time, with aim for r10 60lvl blue set thats not in game... 
But pvp for casual ppl is broken, cause most of time you are against premades.  Not everyone can get in decently managed premade, If you are not tryhard, and cant devote enough PVP time to those grind groups. And those premade grps aint that many...

In PVE Im happy also killing bosses, gaining guild progress, passing loot. But PVP is not the case here. There is no satisfaction just having useless r13 written in ur character profile. That just shows others you are fcking nolife farmer. Probably gained rank by raping random pugs in BG with ur full premade grps. Now thats a gr8 Achievment! U can be proud of. ITS A JOKE!

If there would be decent PVP gear more ppl would farm it, more premades that can compete with each other, less Premade vs PUG situations. And in the end some decent upgrade for ur char that affects ur further gameplay...

[Vollfos 2]

you forgot one essential point:

the playerbase is to 95% the same since month. barely new players are coming and even more leave the project.

why ? if you hit the rank you wanted , and cleared the content you wanted, many people make an alt. or raidlog. playing other games or just do in their free time something else. i dont know how horde side looks atm but , pretty much 50% of all 60 on alliance sides are raid characters.     for most of them there is no reason to farm that blue set even if the update is there !

i even know people who has 12/13/14 and now made a alt and premading with them.  means the same people which made the grind, do it again because they like the system. eah the system is crap and yeah i stoped with 12 because i got my items i wanted, and stopped because its not easy to manage a premade group with alot of work and a normal reallife aswell.... my sleep scedule was pretty much fucked. and atm i dont have even time for more thn 10 hours a week for elysium. which is ok , its a hobby.

since beginning of the server , the alliance side had less then 50% pvper then horde ( mostly everyone who liked pvp were going undead horde) 

means alliance has less people and from that less people even most of them are not intrested in pvp ... even with the new set, it will be a hype of perhaps 4 weeks , ( then most of the people who wanted the rank 10 set ) got it ( because if you are ambitioned to get a gear peace you work alot of time for it).

 

and even if you set this update now , its stupid to compete against bwl geared people with the updated set :D 

and  as i said i made premade which is not that easy, but we werent hardcore , because we didnt spent 18 hours on saturday sunday to reach the brackets. but the effort i did was enough to get 12 which wouldnt be possible on alliance side without a premade,...and on alliance side are the brackets atm just half the honor then 2 month ago and just 1/3 of the honor you had to reach at the beginning of the server ( you had to reach 1.5 million+ at alliance side .. 2 month ago about 800-1000k and now its just 500 k at most weeks)

 

yeah the system is shit, but even the updated version is not as good then t2 ...and i saw alot of t2 people the last 2 weeks in bg´s in pug games ( i retired from the system and just play for fun ) 

[Vollfos 2]

better option is to just raid , get gear and then play pvp for fun. not for a blue set which gets even now punished from better gear in a raid ;) 

[Spriest4lyfe 0]

Yes I'm asking for a wager duel. You seem to be very competent in yourself and your tatcis I figured you would jump on the free 500g. 

I come from a different game called Darkfall-rise of agon. In that community you put your money where your mouth is. You wear your R10 blue set and when I hit 60 in about a week and a half I'll duel you in the set I hit 60 in. See how good the R10 set really is. 

Bo3 500g you can choose the middle man.

[Vollfos 2]

haha , no not even did 1 duell since i played on that server . and tbh i never bought the rank 10 gear, you know why ? before i even was rank 10 i already had better gear from raids/dungeons,, and cant purchase it anymore because im deranked since weeks ;) .

its not my mouth about im the greatest, and it doesnt matter because it makes no sense, i never said that the rank 10 gear is a good set , its just that i say there is no need for having the better set. and there is no need for because noone has it. if noone has the better gear there is no need for.

 

i was back in the days rank 13 aswell with my paladin heal(2006) , and even there i never used the full pvp set ( not even back in the days you used that gear if you had the posibility to have t2/bwl gear.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2017 by Vollfos

[Vollfos 2]

you guys all forget the point that everything which isnt out yet and you want to have it now , will lower the durability of the server in future.  this project will die faster with every patch  which get faster then the timeline, because when people has that gear/raids what so ever, they are faster again bored.... you guys have to think in years... not in the now time of this evening

[Myllz 8]

Vollfos your entire argument is "well I have better gear and others can get better gear so it doesn't need to be updated."  That's not even an argument, it's just you being against it because it does nothing for you.  Updating the gear does nothing for me either since I have access to much better loot, but that doesn't mean it shouldn't be updated so it's not complete garbage for the people who do get it.

[QQsya 4]

Elysium may as well be a PvE server, it's obvious that both the staff and most of the playerbase hate PvP and just want to log on for an hour a week and kill their dragons, scurrying to the instance portal like wet rats in order to protect their precious buffs.  It's frankly sickening, never before have I played on a server with such a garbage PvP environment.

Devs, you say you want active PvP?  Prove it.  Give people a reason to actually go out and rank.  Other people can pretend to be some kind of enlightened ascetics who need no rewards from PvP except the spiritual reward of a game well played but for the vast majority of PvPers, the reason for ranking is to get the rank gear.  If there's no point in getting the gear, then there's no point in ranking, then there's no point for the most active portion of the playerbase to play aside from joining the raidlog train.

[Swiftdeus 0]