AZUREGOS DESPAWNED BECAUSE OF SERVER ISSUES

[Cyrulaen 7]

As of today the login servers went down, and since have been fixed. However the GMs decided to despawn azuregos while we were fighting it with a full raid group due to unknown reasons. I'm assuming it was because the GMs thought it was unfair that alliance couldn't log in to contest it, but I feel that this is unfair to us Horde for several reasons. The first  is that the situation was the same for both sides. Alliance and Horde were unable to log in, so since the situation was equal for both sides, there wasn't a problem in my eyes with fairness. Second is that we spent our time to put together a collective of Horde from many different guilds including Bright of Shine, Vanilla the Hun, Snicklefritz, and my guild, Maximum Effort to combat the fact that  we had a limited number of players to work with.  People spent money to respec and people used raid consumables to combat the odds at hand and to overcome them, and this was all rendered fruitless due to DIRECT INTERFERENCE by GMs. If you want to make it equal, then shut down the servers temporarily, don't take away only specific mobs. The GMs have wasted our time, effort, and in game items without any prior explanation or reasoning, and I find it to be a disgusting abuse of power and lack of judgement. 

[Nodl 0]

Considering the whole horde server pulled together to make a pug to fight azuregos this was a dirty move after hours of prep.

Honestly this is the least blizz-like thing i have seen on this server. If login servers are down, GMs despawning rares from the people fighting them is insane.

Edited April 20, 2018 by Nodl

[Rain 29]

Shutting down the realm would have been the same as disabling the mobs that we disabled for the 10 minutes while we fixed the connection issues people were having, except it would have affected 1000 people rather than 30. World bosses are meant to be world pvp oriented - not something to be taken advantage of because of server issues and then complaining when the fight becomes fair.

I personally don't care who kills Azuregos - but I do care that our realm was inaccessible to anyone logging in for a period of time. That takes priority over anything happening on the realm at the time.

[Cyrulaen 7]

I can tell you that /who was showing 215 people on during that attempt, and 40 of them were us, and about 20 were alli in azshara with us. I don't understand where the 1000 number is coming from, but I'm saying that if there are people picking black lotus when others cant login , that's unfair. If people are farming devilsaur leather while others cant login, that unfair. If people have access to the auction house when others can't log in, that's unfair. Shutting down the server temporarily was by far the fairest option. 

[Cyrulaen 7]

And to be clear I'm not complaining  about  "having a fair azuregos fight". Nowhere in my post comes close to that. What it is for is to admonish the decisions made during this situation and explain our side of the problem and why we feel the decision made was wrong. It also offers constructive criticism that we hope you will take into account if anything similar happens in the future.

[Rain 29]

Concerns noted.

[Cowkingpin 0]

Despawning the world boss when its at 40% hp? Great idea! You think it was unfair? We could not log onto the server either. We just happened to have 10 people online at the time of spawn, I myself was not even online. This is complete bullshit. The World boss was up for 1 + hour and you wait until the boss is about to die to despawn it? Classic. And you guys wonder why people are bitching about GM's playing/ being on the alliance side? 

[bortok 0]

Getting him to 30% then get rekt by the server to see ally kill it -.-

[Froglet 0]

Waiting for 4 hours. while Indominus is offline and all that fun shit, while we all know which GM is apart of their guild, we enguage with a full raid... And at 30% you despawn it and respawn when indominus is able to get online rofl. Pretty scumbag move. Makes me not want to play this server, kinda hoping somebody gets held responsible for this illegal crap

 

Edited April 20, 2018 by Froglet

[Goodlilprick 0]

You seriously gonna fuck people over on a boss almost dead? Do yourself a favor and don't kill your server please.....

 

Why are you disabling a boss for 5mins? We understand the server needs to allow people to login but seriously? I just wasted 4hrs+ of my life I wont get back because of your poor GM decision making...

Edited April 20, 2018 by Goodlilprick

[Novat93 0]

49 minutes ago, Cyrulaen said:

I can tell you that /who was showing 215 people on during that attempt, and 40 of them were us, and about 20 were alli in azshara with us. I don't understand where the 1000 number is coming from, but I'm saying that if there are people picking black lotus when others cant login , that's unfair. If people are farming devilsaur leather while others cant login, that unfair. If people have access to the auction house when others can't log in, that's unfair. Shutting down the server temporarily was by far the fairest option. 

Wow you were 40 people? We were 13 people, 1 of whom lvl 57. Only 4 on discord.
2 of us was Indominus if that interests you.

I have no clue, how in the hell we managed to wipe you TWICE if you were actually 40 people. I'm not gonna claim we could have stopped you that last time, we got a few kills on rogues trying to pick us of. Then there was some poking, viper stings and the sort. When you turned on us, i cast eagle eye to check on the boss and he was gone.

[Effi28 0]

Alliance scouted Azuregos for 96 hours, and always has alot of people ready to login in the moment he spawns. 
Leting a raid kill worldbosses while people can not login is just unfair. 
Worldbosses should be disabled as soon as there are problems with the server, to make it a fair competition. 
 

Edited April 20, 2018 by Effi28

[Goodlilprick 0]

1 minute ago, Novat93 said:

Wow you were 40 people? We were 13 people, 1 of whom lvl 57. Only 4 on discord.
2 of us was Indominus if that interests you.

I have no clue, how in the hell we managed to wipe you TWICE if you were actually 40 people. I'm not gonna claim we could have stopped you that last time, we got a few kills on rogues trying to pick us of. Then there was some poking, viper stings and the sort. When you turned on us, i cast eagle eye to check on the boss and he was gone.

Being the servers were down... We didn't have much of a choice of who we could bring but we did manage to find 3 healers....even offering to gold for people to respec as healers....not to mention the 15min buff that gives you 2min stun non-stop. Back to the point though, why was the boss despawned mid fight? Fucking cheap, I feel robbed and don't really see any point of playing a game where you get robbed of your time by poor decision making on the GM's behalf.

[Goodlilprick 0]

1 minute ago, Effi28 said:

Alliance scouted Azuregos for 96 hours, and always has alot of people ready to login in the moment he spawns. 
Leting a raid kill worldbosses while people can not login is just unfair. 
Worldbosses should be disabled as soon as there are problems with the server, to make it a fair competition. 
 

Keyword: Fair, we were on, ready and found the boss, attempted it twice and wiped by competition...Tell me is it fair when GM despawn's boss at 30%? If you wanna despawn bosses do it when the server problem was apparent...not as were about to kill it...people have better shit to do then be scammed out of 4hrs+ time

[Llama 0]

So the whole idea of world bosses is that they require both time and attendance. As soon as a world boss spawns there is an arms race between factions to discover the spawn and gather the numbers required to both kill the boss and defend from opposing factions. While I agree that Azu was in a unique scenario and should in my opinion of been despawned from the start. It was not, for over 2 hours the remaining members still logged into the server, spent gold on respecs and supplies in an effort to down the boss without reinforcements. The fact the boss was despawned at 40% is bullshit and the fact it was done suggests a GM was receiving complaints of it being unfair. ( We all have an opinion on GM favouritism ).   Regardless, if the GM's thought it to be unfair, then fair enough.  However, to then respawn Azuregos after three hours of notice turned Azuregos into an attendance fight, the biggest team wins... There is no strategy, there are no advantages gained from discovering the boss first, or from notifying your guildies quick enough. When the server was accessible again, more Alliance were ready and so won the fight. This is not how the fight should have happened. I believe everyone on both sides would have agreed to have a GM kill Azuregos and reset its respawn. Instead, you have a lot of pissed of people who woke up early, stayed up late, gave up three hours of their time on top of 4 days of scouting (that both ME and Indom do). If nobody scouted this week it wouldn't have mattered. You wasted our time with a stupid decision and I full heartedly believe Indominous would have the same opinion had Horde had taken the kill.

Gratz to the Alliance for the kill, but I know members of my guild are now looking at other servers. If they do change servers, good luck to anymore World Boss pvp as I believe Horde will not be attending...... 

 

[Novat93 0]

I agree, the boss should have been ideally prevented from spawning in the first place while the login server was down, with a system message extending the boss re-spawn window. Though this is only advisable when the window is very near closing time, as it was today when there was issues with the login server. If there is a problem 20 hours into the window, and there is an issue, you can safely move the spawn timer 2 hours without telling anyone.

Second best option, despawn the boss shortly after he spawns. Before anyone get in any real attempts.

Doesn't really change the fact that the boss was yours. We were struggling with coordination, people were all over the zone, few on discord, and only 2 of us were from my guild. You could have gotten him on either of the two first attempts.

[Effi28 0]

Azuregos spawned at 09:17 as login servers were down. 5 Minutes later we had 25 people in discord waiting to login. We found the boss at the same time. For us it was just impossible to login. Azuregos was despawned 1:30 hour later. not 4hrs+, as soon as the login has gone online again, everyone had the same chance to fight for the kill. In fact both factions had the same amount of people and we won by using the better strategy.

 

 

Edited April 20, 2018 by Effi28

[Llama 0]

Maximum Effort scouted Azu spawn at 09:17, it was despawned at 11:10. We had 35 members on discord at 9:25, Indom had 2-4 on discord at 9:25...... Had we been able to log in, we would of had the numbers for at least 2-3 pulls.

[Goodlilprick 0]

10 minutes ago, Effi28 said:

 Azuregos was despawned 1:30 hour later. not 4hrs+

 

 

We had 4hrs invested into this....Not saying it was down for that long. 3rd attempt he was despawned as he was about to die, feeling as if I was a victim of burglary. Yes, I think its awesome PVP action but not worth how long I personally invested of my own time to attempt killing a boss which was eventually despawned on us all. GM's need to handle this in a more professional manner, Blizzard wouldn't of handled it like that at all.

Edited April 20, 2018 by Goodlilprick

[Cowkingpin 0]

It's fine you wanted to make it fair. I respect that. But you chose between making it unlucky for the alliance (because they happened to be offline) and unfair for the horde (because we were online and killing the boss). You De-spawned the boss in front of a raid team of 40 people. Your argument of making it fair for everyone is bullshit. No one could log on. Not even horde players. It was not a faction based bug. Interfering with world bosses because one team can't log in? Thats unfair. Having people spend their time, stop PvPing, respec/ spend gold on consumables, stay up late, skip work, just to have the GM's de-spawn the boss, i'd say thats pretty unfair. Anyway you look at the picture its wrong what the GM team chose to do in this situation. I seem to recall multiple times when GM team specially said "We do NOT interfere with world bosses". Funny how that goes out the window when its convenient for the alliance. :)

I had a lot of respect for the GM team on this server despite all that has been said about them in the media. I'm afraid I can no longer say the same anymore. I would also like to point out that we are not simply upset for losing the world boss. We have lost world bosses before and have never resorted to the forums. We are resorting to the forums because the GM's deliberately stopped the horde from a kill. We Stopped doing world bosses for 2 months because of the GM corruption on World bosses. I have screenshots from multiple GM's telling me this would not happen anymore. Then what do you know. We had every single guild on the horde there in small numbers and they all watched it happen.

So, GG?

Edited April 20, 2018 by Cowkingpin

[Salve 0]

Our healers had plenty mana, we had Azuregos @ 40-50%, we just wiped the alliance raid and then the gm's decide its "fair" to despawn the boss. 

 

[Drustic 0]

After doing over 100 hours of scouting by my self this since last kill. I have never felt more robbed ( And I was one of them who couldn't log in) I cant believe you DE spawned him at 40%. Fix ur shit GM's!

[Arkonos 0]

Cant we all just get along?

[Novat93 0]

What is this GM corruption you are talking about? I would love some evidence to back up your claims. At no point was i, or anyone else in the guild told to be ready at certain hours because the world boss would spawn. We continued scouting with very few gaps for the entire duration that you gave up scouting for world bosses.

I won't say GM corruption never happened, since it was pretty much confirmed by staff. But at no point did this corruption benefit Indominus in any way, shape or form.

Your incompetence however, continue to benefit us on a near daily basis.

Edited April 20, 2018 by Novat93

[Skarito 0]

It doesn't matter how many members each faction had online ,nor how many hours of scouting you did. The fact that a GM decided to despawn Azuregos mid-fight at 30% only shows favouritism and involvement to a single faction. This isn't the first time GM's get involved with World Bosses and if you really want to be serious about your server you should start investigating the issue and throw responsibilities.

1 hour ago, Rain said:

Concerns noted.

This means nothing btw.