killerduki

It is not doomsday scenario if something was already experienced within private servers , back in the retail rarely someone even used it , in retail there is progression which prevents this system to flow , here in private servers you are limited to specific raiding progression and this system doesn't work properly for that. There is real reason why Kronos banned it and Feenix also get rip by this, not talking this out of tin air but from something that already happened. /Kind regards Killerduki

Gold paying and Gold whoring (farming) in pug runs instead guild runs. /Kind regards Killerduki

Nhaa, it's not in live yet, it will release next patch unfortunately, maybe in 2 weeks. /Kind regards Killerduki

bump /Kind regards Killerduki

Because all "free runs" will get rekt by the system , no raiding guild will sustain except the hardcore guild . Everyone will go and tend to do Gold Run instead free pug. I don't fear if guilds will disband , i know they will disband , experienced it and proven it. /Kind regards Killerduki

Why should people pay Gold for Items when they can get them for free? If GDKP was nice , it wouldn't be banned from Kronos and yes feenix was rip'd by gdkp raids, still getting the same rip after they did the same mistake on their new server. And the same question again , why people should pay Gold for Gear ? It is changing the whole Vanilla into something that this Game never been. Casual guilds got rip by system , this is unavoidable and proven for many times in feenix. /Kind regards Killerduki

At the end of the day , again Elysium will merge within Anathema and we all end up with 2 servers like Nostalrius used to , with big population nice and dandy . It will just take some time until people realize that. Pottu and Nano will come back again ;) /Kind regards Killerduki

Welcome back Pottu , server need you like no tomorrow <3 I wonder why people didn't announced it yet to Reddit like they did for your leaving. /Kind regards Killerduki

That's because new players will come at level 60 without gold and gear , won't be able to find people for 5mans since everyone will do only raid and wont do any 5 mans. By doing this , the new people wont stand a chance joining these Gold raiders , since the requirements within time will become extremely high "Gold Requirements" unless you bring T2 Gear and carry only those who come with Gold. What is the alternative to the new people ? There won't be any Casual/Social/Normal Guilds for them to progress further , there won't be free pugs for everyone , there won't be 5 mans dungeons running for pre bis gear since everyone will use Gold and Raid. New people will simple quit the server after this situation. Another reason : It is not win-win for everyone , because new people will have to waste gold for Consumes and for Gear , while End-Game geared will not spend any gold to either things. This will drawn all the Gold from new people and casual and transfer to high end which will cause the same people leaving server being unable to make enough gold in order to join the Raids. The System will be optional at the beginning , but during time everyone will tend to join Gold runs instead normal gear , nobody will be able to make any alternative raid since nobody will join them. Last reason : Only few people will be able to lead these GDKP , not everyone like now , only the few people will monopolize the whole raiding within the server. Not everyone will be able to fit in that system , this will result to plenty scamming , confusions and ofc leaving server. /Kind regards Killerduki

@Esfand You will enjoy reading this : http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/2064-retribution-paladin-pve/&do=findComment&comment=31085 It made me top KEK ! /Kind regards Killerduki

Very well done , just you are missing our threats weapon , because we want Spell Damage weapon for more aggro or Thunderfury . Wraith Blade > The End of Dreams > Thunderfury > Lok'Amir > Azuresong Mageblade > Bloodcaller > Ironfoe > Flurry Axe > whatever ? /Kind regards Killerduki

MC and ZG was never obsolete neither there neither here before GDKP. But i welcome to Elysium and whole community to give a try and destroy it's own project/server with this , i wouldn't mind as long it doesn't affect all servers, because i see the same few gold abuser players from Kronos flee from there and joined here after their System was banned in that project. /Kind regards Killerduki

Are you afraid to join his Raid and do more than him? For second time you try to get away from this offer. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/44208-ret-paladins-can-dps/?do=findComment&comment=381747 /Kind regards Killerduki

Nothing with any intentions , but fascinating description of Elysium project and the fall it had, not only the song but the picture describe the project past 1 month. Uploaded at 2015 /Kind regards Killerduki

Druid Restoration most wanted , 2x Paladin healers need. Other classes/specs are also welcome . /Kind regards Killerduki

Eve tho we have 2 Bugs in the Table who nerf our Threats by 50% from Auto Attacks using SoR: https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/250 https://elysium-project.org/bugtracker/issue/282 /Kind regards Killerduki

You should be impressed , i am currently tanking with Flurry Axe , not with Thunderfury. /kind regards Killerduki

@Shino reminder ^ . /Kind regards Killerduki

And SW_STATS is accurate? Rename Hunter pet same as any Character name , the Hunter pet DPS will be added to the Character name instead. Use 10 Hunters pets = Character name will have 5000 dps. /Kind regards Killerduki

So you need all of that in order to outdps Ret Paladin? /Kind regards Killerduki

Telling you because i have huge amount of experience about the system , experienced it already, it is like disease swallowing the server to the point of no returning slowly and steady. Ninjaing items and Gold will become so much legal thanks to the system flaws, according to the rules of this system GM's wont stand a chance to take action against abusers, only few will be able to do runs for them and it will be only the same individuals all the time instead everyone doing their own things. In the short time , it work , but later everyone will choose the system as only way to Raid , nobody will be able to do free pugs , nobody will be able to create social/casual/normal guilds , nobody will bother with progression, not because they don't want, because everyone will choose to go Gold runs. High End Gear people either way can even create new raid for the Items they do, with this system Reserve still will exist regardless , so they can still reserve the items they want and still use P2W system. It have so many flaws , if you were playing Feenix 3 years ago , then you would know , unfortunately many tend to forget it and many old players no longer play the game to share their experience from the system back in the days. I just suggest you to take a look on Kronos as example , why they banned and you can see their ban to this system. Kronos is 2nd server after Feenix where GDKP was implemented and in practice , Feenix didn't ban and died ,Kronos after the recent events it got alive but it banned immediate this system afterward. I hope @Elviss give some of his hints about GDKP , ofc he wont share the same point of view like me , but he has some experience of this system and i think he can explain it better. /Kind regards Killerduki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_pjqqzn4Q Watch from 10:00 This is how Hunter easily abuse Boss in Diremaul North. Suggestion is , make Boss "Evade" when someone stay upside the Wall at the "Ogres" position. This will prevent Bug Abuses that leads to extremely Damaging Server Economy especially Enchanters. They can Solo Tribute and Abuse this to Disenchant and make "Tremendous" amount of Shards and Epic Shards that will lead Auction House devaluation and unfair advantage against others.

And most important , changing the whole Vanilla ways doing Raids. Guilds disbanding and turning into Pug without alternative working against new people in server , LFR Version of Retail. It damages extremely the server. /Kind regards Killerduki

Here is example from some people revolt of what happened in Feenix back in the days : https://forum.nostalrius.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=771&hilit=gdkp by zorex270 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:42 pm Here is now example how it affect server : Alright seems the same propaganda here like in p....x. Let me enlighten you what will happen : 1.Crafting Gear from Professions will Devalue to 0 point (useless) . 2.With that crafting Gear all this "mining,skinning,tailoring" . Goes down too (with minor exception of Tailoring). 3.World Drops will Devalue to 0 point (useless). 4.Consumes will start skyrock with price since farmers will get reduced. (people will 90% choose to farm gold from GDKP) 5.Preraid requirement would slowly become a Gold requirement. (we don't care about gear,show your gold). 6.Other Alternative to GDKP will be wiped out and it will remain only system. 7.Items will become Expensive so People would have to farm Gold for Gear instead Gold for Consumes. 8.Scammers would be all around , some leaders will also scam 5% from each pot legally "which could go high number". 9.There is no real Evidence of what will happen (gold trade or mailbox) since it would affect 40 People. 10.Leaders will request "example" : show 10 000 gold if you want to join us. (this was example). 11.People will become Solo and the attitude will get changed to more toxic instead team spirit depend. (lfr blizzard way). 12.Leaders of Pugs are Allowed to "Goldban" people for minor mistake or anytime he wish for if he feel and this is making them profit from that person more. 13.People would stop worry about fun and progressing , they would all "gold,gold,gold". 14.Low Geared People will never be allowed to step in Raid except gold showing. (this make that people leave server). 15.Some Rich "Green Geared" will do High End Raid and get this Gear immediate and fast while 100 others wont be able to step in High End. 16. All Casual and Progressive Guilds Risk getting Wiped out completely and only "Hardcore" will Remain. - Keep in Note all this happen before in p....x - and i already have that experience . - Only one who benefit from GDKP are Fully High End Geared by the cost of 90% of overall Population. - Everyone else Risk leaving Server because of the mention Reasons once there is a choice to do. There is a reason for this : 1.Many people can't fit in the complex of counting , working proper while leading the raid and doing the "gold calculations/distribution" (i tak overall view) include here also scammers that will scam 40 people gold instead "one pity item". 2.Only few people who understand perfect this system will be able to do raids. 3.There will be opening of "ninja people or trustful/untrustful leaders bad/good leaders" list which unlikely for some mistake many will fill inside this list and will cause only these few people able to lead instead everyone. 4.There will be no alternative to this GDKP since everyone will choose to do it and those people who are unable to fit in the complexity of the system won't be able to lead raids or pugs. 5. It make sense why remaining 90%, its because people will always choose to join "trustful" GDKP leaders by high end guilds only and high end geared only . 6. Meanwhile progressive guilds/casual guilds will go down and this will leave only "hardcore high end" and this is connection among number 5. (there will not be lot more choice) . 7. Why shall we turn this server in PUG's run instead Guild's runs?. 8.I would given you whole situation what has happened before and experience about it with evidences but i am afraid i can't do that because it will end up "server advertisement" . (need approval by Admins to post screenshots with examples). 9.It will destroy server and i am 100% positive in that and this will cost 1-2 years amount of time so please don't (saying from personal experience) . 10.High End people can always switch to level new alternative character when they clear everything and there is no real reason to see them "farming gold" beside "selling that gold" when they got full bis gear. 11. New people in server will not be able to fit in this system because they will need to farm tons of gold in order to join raid or get at least few pieces of gear. 12.Meanwhile Gold is split but New Players still waste gold on gear and consumes while High End gear keep their Gold because they wont even need to use consumes . (this will cause strong damage to economy inbalance). (few people will become enormous rich while everyone will remain on the bottom). /Kind regards Killerduki

All Normal,Casual,Social Guilds disbanded (except hardcore) and Pug-Pug-Pug - Inflated Gold spreading - New people can't get groups for 5 mans neither join raid, LFR version of retail , Gold>Gear , Goldsellers everywhere, P2W = dead server . /Kind regards Killerduki