killerduki

If he is doing Dungeons this is not true , go for Consecration first and then prot talents is best choice to do as low levels . https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/24155-tanking-video-guides/ Everything you need to know and do as Prot from lowest up to highest. /Kind regards Killerduki

Yes , that way it should work. /Kind regards Killerduki

There is evidence from before 1.8 and TBC. While there is no evidence of removal between 1.8 and TBC , it was pure assumption for that. /Kind regards Killerduki

The bugreport was locked to provide further evidence for that, which is why lot of them are not even there. There was no Visual Bug through TBC and this was proven via Video where between 1st and 2nd mob there is difference with Damage doing. Your "visual bug is based off garbage theory unproven" , neither any of your 1000+ Videos have any Paladin trying to do it in order to disapprove it. In fact there are even more evidence where JoW did also work even thru TBC all the way up to WotLK where a person says he did it on his own tests. What did you provide as evidence to claim the removal post 1.8 Patch ? There was no fix , it's pure assumption where you try to disclaim and deny the evidence given opposite of you. Like you was the first person who said Holy Resistance should exist and you were working very hard to prove that Items/Mobs should have Holy Resistance. Great , everyone can see your comments and position about it , it all exist in Crestfall Forums. http://forums.crestfall-gaming.com/index.php?/topic/237-paladin-bug-thread/&page=2#comment-2632 imbaslap Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) This is how he push so hard his assumptions as Evidence , same as he do for Judgements Stacking. Nothing but a pure assumption , which is worse , he is also part of Beta team and behind the scene about Paladins decisions, everything he says is followed by QA and Devs. /Kind regards Killerduki

You should thanks for Crestfall , increasing the Anti Chinese stereotype , they will even Ban VPN or create specific server only for Chinese which is indirect cause of such behavior within the people. There the equality fails. /Kind regards Killerduki

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What alts and what gold? You drunk? /Kind regards Killerduki

Depend on the group you are with , if you are in group at your levels and dungeon is probably 1-2 lvl higher or equal to you , then pure Holy is better, but when you get boost by geared or higher lvl's , then whatever , pick int gear and heal. /Kind regards Killerduki

This is again false statement , nothing was nerfed/removed in live until TBC where for the very first time JoTC was nerf, Light/Wisdom remained up until WotLK. I speak about the facts and evidence provided. Their removal in this project was based off assumption (credits to Crestfall and Imbaslap) , no evidence for such thing given at all. Your link seems doesn't work. I reported such thing as evidence using Videos from Vanilla period, none of them did scale with sp. Now , try to read old wowwiki from 2006 , it explain everything about 100% proc rates items, none of them did scale with spell damage. The only items who scale with SP are those who are "chance on proc" but not 100% proc, also don't confuse this with Enchants, Enchants with or without chance to proc doesn't scale with SP either . They are in 1 specific category for a reason. /Kind regards Killerduki

This is false statement, Fiery Plate Gauntlet and Fiery Retributer was proven via oldshcool Videos. It was not nerfed for balance reason , it was nerfed because it was proven that way. In other side Stacking Judgements removal was not proven and they removed it based on assumptions. /Kind regards Killerduki

I am afraid the Owner Poster have said Leveling , not at level 60. Consecration is the only thing causes people drink so much for doing low DPS. BoW+JoW+SoC/JoC = good mana regen+good DPS and max ranks on cd. While leveling you barely do 8-20 DPS per target using Consecration. You do lot more DPS via SoC/JoC max rank on cd. I've seen JoC doing 400-500 Crits on stunned targets by low level Paladin. (we talk about trash mobs in dungeons while leveling). Even at level 60 , unless you have 3+ Targets , Consecration is still much lower than SoC/JoC. /Kind regards Killerduki

Not true, you hear only trolls confusing everyone with raid and dungeon comparison as it is false statement , pick some good weapon , Int/Agi mixed Gear (both stats in 1 like deadmine finger) or in 1 word = hunter gear. Use Blessing of Wisdom , SoC/JoC (depend on the weapon) or SoR/JoR , use Judges max rank on cd and crush these bones. Don't bother with consecration and you will do crazy big dps. /Kind regards Killerduki

Same as Loatheb/Twins making it simple for Horde using Windfury , since threats are not working like any normal encounters there. /Kind regards Killerduki

Mangos as usual (hope i am wrong). /Kind regards Killerduki

It was released back in 2010 and used , today it will be same as it used to be with some extra bugfixes, (bugs with 2010 standards of knowledge). This might happen really soon (assuming) winter and i believe it will be straight live instead of beta . Maybe they will , but this could probably happen upon live release. Depend on Crogge , but i don't think so. (maybe). /Kind regards Killerduki

This statement and decision was decided by devs/testers and quality assurance according to assumptions , none of them had any evidence for Judgements stacking removal between 1.8-1.12 , unfortunately and nothing is going to change/reverse their decision i am afraid. All the credits for "disappear and reappear" idea you can give to whole Crestfall , Crestfall beta testers (they was strongly involved in this) and the Elysium Quality Assurance + Phoosy + Hudson (supporting it). /Kind regards Killerduki

This is also wrong , 130 Holy Damage / 4 = 32.5 base damage per block + 90% rf threat = 61.75 TPS + 20% by Holy Shield = 74.1 base TPS per block (without any buffs or anything i calculated , just base dmg). Spell Damage gives 5% coefficient per block. Sanctity Aura is 10% more damage per block. "Currently in server is bugged and can crit". /Kind regards Killerduki

That's because of the base damage and coefficient is not 9.2% for 2h weapons as he compared the 4.0 speed , it is much higher. But then you wont get 4-8 tps from base SoR damage increase with slower weapons , they are much off and higher , tho you have some other calculations not included into the formula. /Kind regards Killerduki

Additional thing to add (Which is bug) , currently in this Project Holy Shield can Crit and it work according to Spell Crits (which should not). "this is just to let you know since it makes some changes to the threats values" . Another spell needs to be taken into account is Holy Shock , since many go for it . This really need to get fixed , it is so much confusing and missleading to be honest as Consecration is not making 600 TPS to a single target , not even close to this (even with or without JoL) . I've never seen Consecration doing 300 Holy Damage per tick as a Tank , it is the reason why it is so weird to see this , Consecration so far i have done max with 400 SP was around 60-70 damage a tick = 140 TPS max. It would probably make around 150 TPS or 200 TPS by max if you have 1k sp , i still have no clear view how did you got Consecration doing such big amount , TPS = Threat per second , Consecration = Damage divided over 8 seconds = 1/8 of the TPS . /Kind regards Killerduki

I am not sure why this was pointed at me , for some moment i tough i speak regarding this Topic. (All these formulas you guys speak about was discovered and reported to bugtracker by me ,otherwise not sure how people can forget the use of SoR previously where it was doing some flat random dmg with 10% coefficient regardless of speed excluding one-handed etc). The Problem with your calculation is : You said i need 1000 Spell damage to make 190 Holy damage for 1.6 Speed , while in reality i been doing with 400 SP = 190 Holy damage with 1.9 Speed. (This is why your calculations are wrong). This is also wrong and proven as wrong with evidence in the Bugtracker. There is a reason why your math was not added into account. /Kind regards Killerduki

Where are those calculations and results ? can't see them. /Kind regards Killerduki

Well for example , this matter so much , especially for Attack Power and White Swings where you didn't add the difference for Weapon Speed , you did calculate AP for white swings , but there was nothing mention about the weapon speed used etc , because "claiming xx TPS with xx AP" will give some bad conclusions with wrong math, this will end up trolls being fed again relying on wrong math. Another thing you might forget is , each time you parry , your next attack swing is reduced by (average) 40% , which mean with fast weapon like 4.0 speed it will work like 4.0 speed formula , but will swing each 2.1 second which is also TPS increasing. I think it should be the same as Healing TPS (for Paladins) 0.25 , might check Kenco threat Guide for confirmation. Blessing of Wisdom does not increase TPS, but Judgement/Seal of Wisdom does increase TPS when someone/you regen mana from it. His language barrier confuses you and he is usually Paladin Tank/Ret hater so , don't mind him too much else he will derail whole Topic. In fact "Overheals" as he try to say (regardless if Holy or JoL) will not give you any threats, only the "heal received" will do , but if your heals top just portion of target hp instead the full amount , it will count as the portion of target hp. /Kind regards Killerduki

You forgot something here in this calculations. Weapon Speed , because it matters so much and makes extremely big difference regarding TPS and completely different values, different coefficients for both etc, sanctity aura missing too. Procs missing into calculations too . (For example with TF and 390 SP "included JoTC into SP") i was able to make 190 Holy Damage per swing with SoR , without Imp SoR . This will result into nearly 380 threats / 1.90 = around 190 TPS (without TF Procs and without Imp SoR). If you add the TPS from White Swings/Crits+TPS from TF Procs , this would been much higher per swing. There is something wrong with this calculations , Consecration is not doing 170 damage per tick in order to be 341 TPS. Sanctity Aura missing too. You are missing Crits and Sanctity Aura. You forgot Exorcism ,Holy Wrath , Hammer of Wraith, Judgement of Wisdom (it still makes threats per mana) . /Kind regards Killerduki

What this has with me? Not sure if you are trolling or trying to achieve something. /Kind regards Killerduki

The "on-next swing" abilities means = 2-3-4-5 swing by reckoning , how it explain the patchnote is a bit weird but the intention is that. so only 1st reckoning swing can proc everything while (all swings can proc only SoR ), the thing why you might see multiple procs is because of SoR does procs . /Kind regards Killerduki