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Completely irrelevant to compare , as i said they don't even need the same stats. You are asking for frogs to compare with cabbages, even if "Warrior Stats" in your eye are better , it is wrong , again T3 offers more Stamina , offset offers more Avoidance. Warrior need Stamina and Block Value , Paladin need Avoidance. All your logic goes down with this Titanic , Warrior get only 10% threats increase using def stance. Neither Paladin need Shield Wall according to your logic, it can again live without it again. Bubble have macro for that , removes it within 1 second or less , warrior can indeed also make mistakes too , none of your logic about this is accurate at all again. Perhaps you play in some broken project or noob guild , with people full dpsing , Warrior goes nearly always without Rage and cry for it , unless you play Kronos/Feenix/Old Nost/Crestfall where they have endless and infinite rage according to Modified formula instead to proper Blizzlike formula. Give me any Video where you have full Avoidance Gear Warrior with maximum rage spamming his Abilities on CD's , the Video must be from Elysium and must be from current timeline period (when things got fixed). This is where your knowledge is inferior about Paladins , Paladins threats mainly are from Seal of Righteousness and because Paladins can't get Avoidance cap , they will still block same as always do , which mean Bosanc/Holy Shield will still work in exact manner , the only difference is they wont get big hits thanks to Avoidance , nothing else, Warrior without eating big hits = cry's for Rage. Check your T3 Stats , you say that you are pro Warrior , you should have known that already , T3 beside Stamina has huge amount of Block Value . If you sy shit stat for Warrior , then it means T3 is shit for Warrior. (Your Logic is again Titanic). You again talk nonsense , i never said 1k "DPS" , i have said 1k "TPS" , in before you even talk craps like that , i suggest you to first read "TPS" before you trashtalk. What 100 SoR hits??? I am currently doing more than 100 SoR damage with MC Gear, you said Naxx Gear , Paladin with Naxx Gear will do over 500 SoR damage . Now add One-Handed Weap damage 10% for sor and the white swings increased by 10% from it. Only noobs tank with 100% consecration uptime , your logic fails from here, nobody in the world will dare to tank with this on a Singe-Target Boss , else he is clearly disaster player draining his mana worthless. I can see how noob player you are when you talk your logic. You never ever played Paladin Tank to begin with and if you ever tried then you was terrible clueless player. Holy Shield with spell damage is not 180 damage , neither you get extra 40 threats from block, it is lot more than that. You add numbers out of thin air , Exorcism with strong Spell Damage can go up to 2k damage. You are adding numbers out of thin air , overgeared Paladins will do 500 SoR damage, with only it's Seal will make 900 TPS , not to mention the white swings and other abilities used. Since you trash talk about Overgeared , think about Legendary Weapon who have 50% proc rate for Paladin compare to 25% proc rate for Warrior thanks to Seal of Righteousness. Your rotation is out of touch , neither efficient , neither properly , you made things out of nowhere with nonsense . JoR was not calculated , neither you specified Spell Damage , scales and everything , neither you added White swings to that etc , you simple based your rotation of 100% consecration uptime which is Titanic logic. Instead wasting your time on nonsense trying to preach with false and out of thin air stuffs like "60 damage = 6 stamina", you could at least do your own investigation by your own, i am not going to waste my time for someone who is clearly out of it's way to even accept things not in his favor, only because you believe in something else, doesn't mean it is truth and you are now angry for that. /Kind regards Killerduki

The same thing you can say for Bubble, the best ability to remove all debuffs who can kill you as a tank either and Warriors don't have that. Your theory about best surviving ability goes again Titanic. Still it's not efficient like DP Paladin Bubble as a Tank where you can remove the debuff and time it still. Same you can say for Paladin about every single boss, it can be done without Warrior too. With Paladin Huhuran is so much easy and it makes everybody life easier when you remove the debuff. Your modifier is 10% for all damage , but Paladin does 90% on Holy and 10% on white hits (Thanks to one-handed weapon spec) . Paladin Tank threats and damage output is mainly Holy but not limited and still does lot damage/threats with white swings, so your Warrior "All attacks" goes again Titanic. You say BT is 350 TPS , i am sorry but all the abilities you mention are either on CD or Rage requirement , you can't spam them on CD each second because your rage will go down and then you also go down with that. Paladin Tank can do 1k TPS only by SoR for infinite time (without even bothering with other abilities at all) "Speaking with Naxx Gear" is even more than that. Even your fury warrior will not even get close to the threats Paladin could do. Mages can still do Ignite and Paladin will handle it , Warrior will never handle this . You again speaking with theory based of a Garbage , Paladin in every angle will beat Warrior in threats , even if you are Fury , Warrior will still do 2 times lower threats than the Paladin , but when you compare frogs with cabbage , then Retribution Paladin will kick the shit out of Fury Warrior on threats. Irrelevant to compare , none of both classes are using the same stats or even need the same stats , similar yes , but it's not the same to compare them at all. Warrior need more Block Value to keep the constant damage taken lower , Paladin need more Avoidance to keep the damage taken lower. Warrior with Avoidance is wipe for the raid , he will loose threats , Paladin with Avoidance is unaffected to it's threats and it's good for him , he can still do threats and Avoid . I don't have to bother listing you BiS in game tanking gear , you have Atlas Loot , DB and Google for that , unless you are irresponsible to do it , not my fault. You already wasted lot time trying to preach something you have no clue about , you could instead use that time for something more useful and do your own investigation instead trash talking about Paladins. /Kind regards Killerduki

Speaking out of thin air again , nobody would be stupid to go in deep raids like t2 and t3 with low gear, which mean if Paladin go there will ofc have enough Stamina, but once you have descent Stamina , anything more than that is worthless compare to Avoidance, Avoidance is 0 Damage and yes Crit immune is mandatory or you are noob if you don't . Broodlord - Stoneshield potion + Bubble from Priest = problem solved , nothing will kill you with that. Your "TrueHP" is Titanic , because nobody is stupid to use Blue items to tank these bosses. Still Paladin Tank will have another one as Extra , where Warrior Tank will not . You logic is again Titanic. You can't remove nothing with BoP , unless something is bugged in this private servers, not at all. Divine is immune on everything , BoP is just immune on physical damage , nothing else. There are plenty critical debuffs that can be removed, example for this are : Golemagg debuffs , Huhuran debuff , Conflag from bwl 1st boss etc etc. Neither Paladin will go OOM on 1 min fight even without JoW, your logic is indeed again Titanic. Good , it cost me 30 minutes in my life to spend for that, nice farming , i get Felcloths by doing that either which i also profit from that. What this have anything with Paladin tank ? What you are even trying to achieve with comparing frogs and noggers? Best gear for Tanking is only for Warriors ,not for Paladins , doesn't mean it's the best gear forever for everyone , neither best Cloth items are best for Mages , can be also best for Warlocks. You are talking out of thin air , There are Naxx offset items and they are plenty. T3 Warrior Gear is mainly Block Value and Stamina , where it lack lot on Avoidance such as Parry and Dodge . Parry and Dodge can be crucial to wipe the whole raid for Warrior , because he will lack of threats . For Paladin this is superior and best. Talking what is best Gear for Tanking is not overall class related , it is specific class, none of the Classes have things in common to compare , all your theory is based of Garbage. Bosses: Same rule apply for Warrior , it will one shot them either way. Paladin is not that weak with HP as you have with your delusional way of thinking , Paladin can still manage to go up to 15k HP while Frostbolt hit 10-11k dmg , still 4k HP left to survive it as Paladin. Again you try to push your logic out of nonsense . As i said , Paladin don't need lot mana , it is enough to use once Potion and burn all mana for extremely high threats , only noobs will stay there with mana by not wasting it while tanking. All you need is to use Seal , spam everything to Exorcism,Shield,Consecration and enjoy with Autoattack swings with Seal . During Dancing Phase you use Rune and Exorcism it all the time (building threats even more while Warrior can just cry for it). Your oneshot theory is again Titanic. Any Resist on Taunt will wipe the Raid , Paladin have 2 options , 1 is Exorcism and 2 is Judgement , while Holy Resistance is extremely unlikely to be resisted , the Warrior is the one who will cry for aggro , not Paladin. Your theory is again based of Garbage. http://wowwiki.wikia.com/wiki/Maexxna?oldid=346543 Revision as of 02:53, November 29, 2006 It has been witnessed that with surgical timing Rogues (using Vanish) and Mages (with Iceblock) can avoid the Web Spray and continue to DPS her down during the final Web Spray when they would normally be immobilised. Also, since a Web Wrap takes a half second to be removed after it's been DPS'd down, a player can avoid Web Spray if timed correctly. Your logic is again Titanic , everyone can see this , you talk nothing but nonsense . OOM does not mean i am loosing threats at all , if you see me OOM , it can be for another reason , like helping out to increase damage done , completely irrelevant to what you think , because the fight is Tank/Spank in the SS you see mainly (with minor exclusions). For example Twins does not even require Mana , once they Teleport the closest target have extremely high threats, Mana is irrelevant there at all , for Maexxna is just Tank/Spank for MT and that's it, burn your mana free without any care, you will regen extremely fast with JoW / SoR . Again your logic is Titanic. Vanilla is not 2010 , Wrath of the Lich king is 2010. I am one of the rare Prot Paladins who have done all this things during 2005 and 2006 , where people was still new and had no clue how to play this game, not like today "Experts like you" trying to preach nonsense . Having Gear obtained as Holy or Retri has nothing with having Skills as Paladin Tank. Him being CL position shows nothing but a junk of noob who has no idea how to play his class . I been GM so what? Does this make any better for you ? I also played in Feenix , completely broken server with extremely broken Paladin Abilities, you couldn't even regen mana with SoR there , you couldn't even proc Items with SoR , neither SoR did scale properly at all , it was disaster , extremely broken and bad project with non working Abilities. 5 years reported but never fixed bugs. None of the calculations are proper , Feenix was disaster project to begin with your calculations , nothing was working properly there at all , even Elysium today has so much significant bugs , this does not make Warrior better , it make just more broken Paladins , bug is bug and nothing you try to propagate is relevant , you have no facts to even claim something , you have no evidence to even show us your Paladin , your playstyle , your gear, skills , server you record at etc , bugs etc , you just talk out of thin air nonsense . Tanks are and always was and will be Druids/Warriors/Paladins and this is final , you can try compare frogs with rabbits , but all you say is just garbage. Paladins are for those who enjoy to play , it's not limited to 5-10 man or the raids you mention , it is designed and created for everything. Fanatics are those who try to preach like you , who should eat , who should play and what should play, nothing else but fanatics trying to push over propaganda to others (like Alexensual) . Retribution Paladin will do 10 times more than your Fury Warrior , your theory again goes Titanic. Put Tanking gear on Retribution Paladin and you will get 10 times better results again , Vengeance will simple do crazy threats , especially where you have Exorcism available to use. Same Retribution Paladin can do either and even better than Fury , since Holy is 90% more threats. Sure , show me Twins and Maexxna tanking in Fury Gear/Spec and i will believe you , otherwise you talk Garbage or the project you play is extremely bugged. Frost resistance gear with def gear = Retribution can do it using Shield even better , he can do Exorcism when boss fly and still do threats. It's not and will never be , any Holy damage Paladin does is 90% more threats , Warrior is extremely limited to it's Abilities and his white swings can do 10% more threats only. Your theory is just Garbage and Titanic. Top Kek , you made my day <3 /Kind regards Killerduki

Your inferior logic can be seen from this ^ 60 more damage blocked is not 6 stamina, it is 60 more damage blocked per swing , in a fight with 5 minutes duration this is like over 10 000 damage or more (depend on block chance) , if you convert 10 000 damage into stamina , this is 1000 stamina for you. Even if your mana goes down , it will not make any changes , you would use Judgement of Wisdom which is superior debuff anyway. LoH is also not 60 minutes if you spec it. Comparing Shield Wall with LoH is irrelevant , you already tried to with Last Stand and Lifegiving , you have Bubble removing deadly debuffs in that case ,which can be 100% death for Warrior. All of those bosses are irrelevant to compare Warrior vs Paladin , it is all about resistance gear and the damage Taken is equal , think about Paladins using Auras at spots where nobody should get close to Tank , this is where Warrior will have issues , but not Paladin. ShadowFlame = Onyxia Cloak , problem solved, this logic goes Titanic. What Zerker rage ? This is not Warrior to compare frogs and peanuts , we have Exorcism , Judgements , Consecration , Seals . Consecration can be used as kiting tool , Exorcism can be used as Ranged pulling tool for Undeads and Demons and is beyond efficient compare to Ranged Shot , Intercept ? huh , this is so irrelevant spell to use even , unless you are noob loosing aggro. We seems to live in 2 different worlds , JoW is bad????? WoW , Mages,Healers,Warlocks do benefit from JoW so much , especially when they have to burn down some target and long fights like Nefarian etc. SoW i never use , it is irrelevant, but useful for AoE fights . Mana pots/Runes is bad? for what? It cost me like 1 hour farming demons to collect enough. Mana is never an issue , i don't drink mana while at trash , whoever drink mana between trash is plain noob playing without JoW and SoR , none skilled paladin should ever drink or waste time for trash. Non-stop pulling is Paladin thing so much more than Warrior , it can run forward and spam AoE , this not just save the Raid but also focus healers on 1 target instead everyone around, saying Paladin have issues with mana and have to drink is just nonsense talking out of thin air. Why i don't have any mana issue? I never drink water between packs at all. Warrior will tend to use Tier Gear , Tiers does not offer enough Avoidance compare to offset items , Avoidance for warrior is also bad because it will cause him to loose aggro. Paladin always strife to use offset Gear , this gives him plenty Avoidance which is extra good for surviving , Avoidance is no problem at all for Paladin , in fact it benefit him thanks to Parry where he get extra swing and this mean extra threats. 4h is the only one boss, the rest are 10 times better for Paladin Tank. You have mention KT , i am sorry but he drop the threats and is immune to Taunt , Paladin have Exorcism for this job , Exorcism is 100 times more efficient than Warrior crying for "slow down the damage" in order to get Aggro. Heigan and Noth are also better for Paladin , remember Exorcism and Mana Pots. You can dance and still do threats thanks to this. In 1 word , everything Undead is Paladin > Warrior by miles , exception is 4h as i already mention. Speaking with facts and speaking with evidence is not same thing , here are all your facts Titanic , where you can't comprehend and will never do. "Denying the truth is edge of madness". Those are not Thaddius as far i can see , these are the 2 hardest bosses (except KT) in this Game , who are not even Undeads. All your logic goes Titanic. Probably you live into different world as it seems , https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=paladin+tank+vanilla The reason why you can't see any Paladin tank last 7 years is because you never even tried to see any, you would explicitly deny them even if you would seen any, there was some known Paladin Tanks even in Private Servers scene like Cystheen etc. Yes , they was not efficient until today, because Private servers like Feenix,Nostalrius,Kronos and even old Elysium and Valkyrie had extremely big issues with Game Breaking bugged Abilities , none of them did bother fixing them until today , even today Paladins do have some bugs which influence their game and hold them down (such bugged bosses not fixed in ZG by Elysium etc) . When something is broken , how can you expect people to play or to be efficient? Ofc not , nobody want to play on Bugged Character and those who will try, will quit. If you had Taunt non working to a Warrior , is he going to be any efficient ? Ofc not , nobody will even play it. /Kind regards Killerduki

As i said the same for the respec cost, in b4 they might even remove your post for pointing this. /Kind regards Killerduki

I am sorry , but i have made it clear , 30% Block Value does replace the lack of Stamina and the extra Avoidance Paladin get replace the lack of "Damage Reduction" 2.5% from Warrior. They would indeed use Rage Potion , but their threats are getting wiped afterward compare to Paladin. LoH is not worse than Last Stand , it is indeed better , if you spec on it , will give you extra Armor which makes you cap and take lot less damage. I think you don't get the point, even if explained, you still wont. The 10% Damage reduction is not 40% damage reduction , it is 10% before Armor , which mean after you get swing , first it count the damage reduction and then Armor reduce the damage you take, this mean you will end up with 2.5% or let say according to your logic 3.5% damage reduction. This is easily replaced by either Paladin Avoidance or Paladin extra Block Value by far. Speaking about Magic damage like Shadowflame = Onyxia Cloak and Resistance cap = GG , all this logic goes Titanic. Even on big mobs single target , it is still strong point and most effective for 2 things = Threats and Damage reduction and reducing the chance to eat Crushing Blow. It is indeed fun, but let see your inferior logic and knowledge at this : Rag would much easier Blast Warriors , because they build less threats than Paladin it will wipe the whole Raid , the AoE knockback by Ragnaros with Fire Resistance Gear you can full resist 75% of the time , which mean most of the time you Tank/Spank solo it , you can have any other tank (including druids) or (another Pala Tank) replace you when you get knock (which is extremely less likely with fr cap). Sartura indeed can be also Tank by Paladin even without Taunt, your logic again goes Titanic. Only 1 Boss in the game , but not impossible to do with Paladin at least 1 of the Horses together with another (druid or warrior support) . The Horses do reduce threats each time they set Mark on the Tank , having Paladin build threats all the time , go up to 8 Marks and then let other Tank Taunt but not do threats for a specific time, each time other Tank get Mark , his threats will get reduced and will fall under Paladin threats, timing this properly will mean after Paladin get his marks reset , the other tank will simple not re taunt and the Aggro continue to the Paladin again. Yes , we Paladins do have fun with it and we don't try to sound like its a great idea, we do say our possibilities as Tanks and we do say what you can do with Paladin where Warrior can't do. Paladin will do more threats , Warrior can mitigate bit more but not limited to "how much people imagine" because it can end up wipe thus more Avoid=Less threats. Paladins can still get Def cap and the "extreme big hits" can be replaced by Armor Cap using Stoneshield Potions. Warriors does indeed beat Paladins but only in the fights where Taunt is needed, the rest is just nonsense to compare , especially where you have 90% of the Raid Bosses not even requiring Taunt to do it. I am sorry but nothing was shown to me in other thread, it instead proved the theory where Paladin will do indeed more threats and still have this Proc lot more than Warrior spamming Sunders (which they got fixed) . "The thread facts was they will spam endlessly Sunders to make Thunderfury proc close to Paladin" in order to sacrifice their whole threats for that from all other abilities, because Sunders wont make even 10% threats compare to Paladin with all his Abilities used. In other case , Warriors will never ever have possibility to spam all their Abilities on CD (outside of sunders) in order to make more threats and at same time keeping Thunderfury up and Rage for that . Paladins can indeed use Seal and all their abilities to keep Thunderfury all the time up and do lot threats. All the theory about Thunderfury and Warrior > Paladin goes Titanic. /Kind regards Killerduki

When TBC release, Anathema and Darrow will die upon migration open. /Kind regards Killerduki

That's because Holy/Prot is even worse to aoe pack and MT paladin is more efficient on Boss kills for faster speed kill rather than waiting for Warrior to build up rage in order to make threats. And it is not true without cd's , paladin have LoH for hp and Bubble to remove deadly debuffs. Defstance = let me educate when Warrior get high armor , the defstance is not "10% damage reduction", but "2.5% damage reduction", because it goes before Armor reduction. Your theory about this goes Titanic. At the same time Paladin have 30% more Block Value which increase Block Damage by 30% and it count after Armor reduction , this mean full amount blocking. Another thing is Thunderfury , Paladin proc this twice more than Warrior , which is also more def compare to Warrior. /Kind regards Killerduki

Stamina yes it is worse a bit, Armor you will get capped anyway so it's no , Avoidance Paladin will get by far much more than the Warrior. In b4 you try to neglect , Avoidance does not mean completely Block , it means Dodge/Parry and this is where Paladin shine compare to Warrior. Avoidance for Warrior mean wipe for the Raid due lack of threats , where for Paladin it is exactly the opposite. /Kind regards Killerduki

They don't lack of tank gear, their tank gear is there , the only true thing about their tank gear is , it is spread among all raids instead "full tier in molten core". You will find few pieces in ZG , few pieces in MC , few pieces in BWL , few pieces in AQ , few pieces in World Bosses , 1 piece in Onyxia. But when you combine , it gives full gear, which mean it's not lack of tank gear , but gear spread all around the raids where people unfortunately tend to skip that and the same gear they prio to warriors instead to paladins. I have seen an examples where people tend to give Legs from ZG to Warrior > Paladin tank, this is wrong because it is BiS for Paladin and part of the issue which is called "Lack of Gear" . /Kind regards Killerduki

Unfortunately not from earlier in the fight , but i got plenty different screenshot from different Naxx fights if that helps. /Kind regards Killerduki

But i didn't create this Guild to do it ;) /Kind regards Killerduki

You are so wrong , you have no idea about it at all. Crogge's server was already developed and opened during 2010 and 2011 , it will indeed release soon after Naxx release in Anathema. Question is , is he going to release the bugged server he had or he will fix it until then? Crestfall is the server in question , it might never release or will release extremely broken, just as reminder it didn't even released the "open beta" , far from "official release", open beta was planned for summer 2016 , but here we go , almost september 2017 and nothing from "open beta" (not official release even). /Kind regards Killerduki

No, you are not wrong from what you have seen, unfortunately everyone tells you it is just tiny fraction while in reality is the opposite. This happening only within private servers including and mostly in Elysium , reality i am afraid is that. Anywhere outside of Private servers and mainly outside of Elysium is completely different by huge margins , i tried/tested and seen, people in the Private Server scene are influenced 90% by this Toxic disease and i am afraid there is no way out of this , only way is when some project comes out with anti trolling solution which is unlikely to happen , the issue is too complex and really bad. 80% of your time you will always struggling with Toxic Trolls and no action will ever be taken against them , they can be Toxic even without insulting you but in a manner of demoralizing you and turn out any negative attitude toward you. /Kind regards Killerduki

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/48667-quotes-by-killerduki/ https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/51218-elysium-forum-rules-and-terms-of-use/ /Kind regards Killerduki

Go get some fresh air bro , you really need it , i feel sorry for you :( , you already mentioned you got some mental issues in your previous post, i doubt you didn't lie this time . /Kind regards Killerduki

And then Stodola calling me Toxic.... This is just proving my point why he is plain wrong and hence ignorant. /Kind regards Killerduki

You are comparing 2 irrelevant things, Doctors with Games , first of all for Doctors it depend lives on them, for Police and Veteran it depend the nation on them. Working on an Illegal project which is being created by someone else is not even close to the same thing as you just mentioned, you basically contribute the opposite of what you said. Fine i will respect that if you only been working inside Blizzard and doing something for community there , bringing the real legacy there, not a GM inside a private server. The only thing we can respect you is for destroying Anathema right now , because that's the only remains of what Nostalrius gave you and you even refuse to do single advertisements in order to bring it alive as "former staff". If it was not Nostalrius giving you the cake, i remember this project had barely 1k people overall. Then do the cap , because full server is full , even Blizzard has created cap limits for their server in order to balance more or save their dead and empty servers , doing a cap to 8k in Elysium is also part of saving Anathema and Darrowshire, so either your mental flexibility is causing for you being unable to understand this or you are born by nature like that. If you see something goes really high while other thing is struggling , then you gotta do something to help the struggling thing, not just sitting there and watching how it gets destroyed hoping for summer end . That's the exactly same thing as you said about Kronos , manipulative project, but still as result of competition between servers , toxic and negative. So if for you Kronos is any different than Crestfall shit talking and PlayTBC disappointing community , then you really need to be emotionally immature about things like this. Unblizzlike is unblizzlike , it is exact thing why people left and leaving , community want Blizzlike project, not someone who will destroy their dream for this game, only because you can't see that this is the problem you've created denying what community wants, is what made Anathema also collapse. That's because you don't have any logical mindset about it , if you at least even tried to think few seconds with 001% IQ , you would realize what's all about "dividing community" for your failed decision in regards to respec cost. The same players you talk about is playing in Elysium , not Anathema, you see, the difference between Elysium and Anathema is not "New Contents" but old same "Boredom" you are claiming , it's either you are blind or you need to wake up in order to see that. Quality is always important , but doesn't mean you should stop working and never give them any content only because you already gave them quality project. It's much more easier to fix last 1k bugs rather than programming and scripting the whole new content. Nostalrius could do both at once , never complained, the reason why people enjoyed it was Quality what they bring , not some crappy project you see everyday. First of all , you didn't even release this , you adopted the server together with the population , server which was worked on over 6+ years in order to reach this quality. Nobody said you should do it in 1 day , but when you have already finished cake that require few more fixes , you should not even complain about , but say thanks for those who gave you that cake. I am not questioning their skills , but knowing that they will do that in 1 single day and clear the whole content is terrible and clear sign that need to be tuned a bit to prevent them from leaving too early, nor i am telling you to make it impossible to kill , just to tune it depend on the standard which will cause people give some efforts in order to get there, which will keep people busy trying to get there, not someone who will clear it in 1 day. Your ignorance made you turn blind eye on the current issue , which you are still blind even today as everyone can see. Having a choice or doing any decision after someone who was a real issue for this project during that period , telling and doxxing to everyone about your second fail decision made, is beyond fail and ignorance of what is happening in real world. This clearly shows how irresponsible and immature you are in regards to doing your job. That's the same as with behavior either , not just giving excuses "i do this for free and you can't expect me to act as professional" , you either do it or not , which you personally didn't do in professional matter. Yea sure , there can be easy 10000 applications , are you going to "accept them" or you will bring another excuse "the team is too big for this" . Right, it's not a first time to read such excuse. And then you complain for lack of application and lack of work done because you are unable to do it. Partially it is truth that mouth spread helps ,but not at all , Advertisement is where this project failed , decisions made and unprofessional staff like you is part of the collapse, Zeth'Kur had over 6k population in which collapsed down to 600 people because of that. Telling that failure was because it was a merge is showing just how blind you are. You just back to my point once again , you expect mouth talker community to advertise you in which just shows how lack the advertisement is and how much it needs for this project. Nostalrius didn't wait for people to advertise, they simple done the advertisements everywhere : Youtube,New Pappers,Gaming websites,Facebook,Twitter,Reddit. Where is Elysium today with their Advertisement? Few poor Videos on Youtube and Twitter, afraid to even come and face with community in wowservers reddit , only because the lack of management shows how much they are "afraid" to do it. If you are responsible for something , then you should be good in promotions , if you are not good then it will collapse. Simple as that. https://www.reddit.com/r/wowservers/search?q=felmyst&restrict_sr=on https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&site=&source=hp&q=felmyst&oq=felmyst&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i131k1j0l3.14961.19430.0.19845.12.10.0.0.0.0.1021.2175.0j2j1j5-1j0j1.5.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..7.5.2132.0..46j0i13k1j0i13i46k1j46i13k1j0i10k1j0i46k1.x6SbtGIrN9I https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/252692-new-world-warcraft-unofficial-felmyst-server-takes-players-back-burning-crusade Told you already , you are plain wrong and you live in denial and ignorance. /Kind regards Killerduki

https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/50284-how-to-save-anathema/?do=findComment&comment=419332 Unfortunately that is what he want , to derail this topic in order to get locked. This is what he did to the last Topic/s who got deleted either. The reason he came out to talk offtopic and insult me. His whole idea and plan was just to remove what was suggested how to save this Server by attacking me personally, knowing that i will respond to it and abusing the GM power to get away from it. /Kind regards Killerduki

Just like your attitude toward me, exactly , calling repeatedly thick head,moron and insulting the whole community in each 2nd of your "personal post". ^ Go ahead and post it , i gladly accept that but you instead talk something out of tin air lying all the time. Everything , only because you can't see that , not my problem. Only because you want to cover the truth or lie to the community doesn't mean that you are right, everyone can see and read , sooner or later you will realize that. It's not about who you are, it's all about your personal behavior during and post being a Senior GM , only because you were given a rank doesn't mean you were doing your job properly , judging on your personal believes is what made you turning into a blind eye. You were simple not for that job, because such toxic person who has no idea about moral and ego is what made Staff look really bad unfortunately, your contributions was nothing more but few announcements given after it was demanded, the rest was just insults toward the community. Talking about my flexibility, only because i don't care , doesn't mean that i can't do this job twice better than you, mainly because i do actually understand how community work coming out as "simple and ordinary player" unlike you who believe "created the world" . Just like i said, you were not even here in order to judge about my attitude or how i were before, because you brought the toxic attitude in this project by doing the opposite of what you had to do. This is the most funny part i read , sorry but i couldn't avoid to laugh about it. Sorry bro, but you are the person who drove people away from this project currently. Poor Stodola , i just enjoy how you entertain this community . That's why i suggested you already , go get some fresh air and enjoy a bit in real world , this Game is not for you, if you are getting stress from internet then i feel sorry for you. /Kind regards Killerduki

This sound like the Doomsday and world will end up , thanks for being Savior of private servers Stodola , everyone should obey you. Nobody forced you or gave any 2 cents about you doing it , nobody is forced to do it , they just did it because they want. You were not the first neither the last person on this planet doing it , there were private servers since 2006 up until today and will continue being , not because "they has to", but because it is their will and wish , nobody demand them to do it in order to forcefully "appreciate" their work. People join , play this game and leave, they do what is allowed for them and what they want , not because your name is written in the center of Brussel or Washington. If people actually did care about you, they would have already called your name in reddit and everywhere, but instead you accomplished being a toxic former Staff of an project. That's why you call the same community morons,idiots,brain lexicon and more, i am sorry but who are you? Nobody heard about you? Nobody in Washington streets gave any cent about you. You are just person who everyone can see it's true face and nature putting your own words in my mouth. And yeah , they couldn't set a server cap limit after opening the 3rd server? So they had to open 4th server knewing that the hype will go down sooner or later?. My suggestion was never wrong , it was given with analyze , but everyone see how your "right decision" gave ZethKur a happy ending. A vision where you try to bring Project like Crestfall who were shit talking about Elysium previously , A vision where you pick disastrous project like PlayTBC which people hated so much during that period. Nice vision you brought here, i see you are damn blinded person. Nobody's fault for the things you have failed and tend to ignore by disappointing your own community extremely. You talk bullshit right now , first of all none of these doxxing was given by me , neither i was part of. The first person who i personally gave this info and warning about spy's and "terrorists" inside the team doxxing was @Shenna and @Jakira , nobody else. Even tho they never took me serious and called me crazy , i tried at least. The idea to merge Zeth'Kur was never wrong , it was given right in time before the population shrink even happen , it was given to prevent the issue which happen today, unfortunately it was done way too late like no tomorrow after the collapse (like soviet union). Community joined here following Nostalrius characters , it was given them a promise of Blizzlike project ,not some modified project where everything that is non blizzlike is getting implemented , this is direct betrayal of the whole community , then you wonder why the project end up disaster , it did because someone is working very opposite of what community expect. That's what's been called "Quantity>Quality" , you can't let bugs unfixed while rushing forward to open terrible progression, the same mistake was done by Feenix and everyone know how it end up today. It's either working properly or non working ,you can't just jump on a cliff knowing that the cliff will fall apart. And how much time it took first Guilds to clear it? 1 day..... Everyone witnessed that. Making a mistake once is forgivable , but doing the same mistake for second time is plain bad, what is even worse is it all happened after the doxxing of Alexensual , this just set an oil inside the fire and hence why this decision was disaster. That is the problem , you have no idea what does it mean proper conversation and communication , lack of knowledge about moral,ego and arrogance is biggest issue inside you , otherwise you would comprehend that. Nobody ask you to be here 24 hours or force you to be here if you don't want , but when you join in something for free or paid then you also bring responsibility and consequences about that, just because you were not professional enough Anathema end up like it is today. If you can't do properly what you are assigned to it , then let someone else do it who willing to do better than you. If you believe that the community should Advertise instead the project Leadership , then you have no clue about anything and i doubt you can make things anytime better , but worse. Nobody outside of the project is responsible about population gain or lost, it is the Project management who shall do Advertisements in order to expose their project to the community , to attract community , if the project is unknown or asking their customers to do advertisements then it is doomed to fail terrible. Give me any project where community tend to advertise instead the project itself!?! Even Nostalrius,Feenix or any other outside good or bad , successful or failed projects are doing Advertisements, even Blizzard, but community is not doing it neither obligated to do , the leadership and management should do that task instead. Asking from community to do advertisement is like kamikaze for this project, especially when today the only thing community talk about this project is negative and terrible point of view. You are wrong as always and one of the reasons why the project end up so disaster, because you simple can't accept the reality. /Kind regards Killerduki

Not being part of the project anymore , doesn't give you any right to demoralize the integrity of the project as a former Staff, which should have dignity and end up with dignity given by the community , not by exposing what kind of toxic kid was behind the scene all along during the period where you were Staff. It gives negative effect toward the project and you are not even aware of it , just like narcissistic person who has no motions about his behavior. I really apologize if i have hurt your feelings , but you sound more like a damn crag right now. When community criticize the problems of this project and point on the truth , doesn't mean the same community is insulting you. Tell me you little kid Stodola , where is the part which i called this project corrupted!?!?! If constructive criticism about something for you is insulting , then i have no other comment , you are exactly the person which most of these are written , because you are the incompetent person and what is even worse Toxic like explosive Keg. And there was Insults written in that post right?! Ill give you one example about it , since you tend to lie people all the time : https://forum.elysium-project.org/profile/80591-kingrat/ Joined May 22 His first derailing comment against me was written and also reported during May 26 , days and days after many reports for harassing , derailing etc and even today , this person never got any sanction , this also include period when you were still Staff, by not doing any of what you just said here. That person is just one of many others who still are free derailing and trolling at any sight which has done before and still doing it. Ill just let this, so people can see things behind the scene a bit. You should even say thank you for someone doing the job you should do and was assigned to. https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/50645-anathemas-only-population-fix/?do=findComment&comment=418675 Excuses for insulting is not accepted by anyone , when you call someone to practice his brain before he type lexical diarrhea is exactly the same as calling someone retarded. I am sorry , but i was never wrong on anything , it is you just bringing up lies to the community , nothing more but "same old story". I was never respected , neither i have said that i was ever respected. But unfortunately you are not respected either , hence why you were thrown out from being a toxic Staff implying lies to the community. Suggestions was given , most importantly many of these was referring to clean up the toxic Staff which is causing big damage to this project, which unfortunately you were one of them and i feel your anger toward me now , because this project finally has it's own 2 cents better live without you being any part of it. Because something was said as Truth , doesn't mean it was offensive, but what is truly happening, i feel sorry about you, it is rather disappointing what i am reading right now and pathetic. Thanks to the bad management this project had which you are solely biggest responsible person for that , is what made these standards low in this project and caused me to abide by them , adapting on the lack of management and behavior. I been always helpful and positive person before you joined in this Project as Staff and not doing your job, the decisions which this project made i been warning long ago , i gave them even analyze for all of the things , i been trying hard to stop them making the mistake which is happening today, unfortunately the blind eye which you have responsibility about it, lead the project where it is currently. Don't worry , i am glad that i quit playing in it, with such toxic Staff like you , i wouldn't even joined either , you are just lucky i joined before you were here, else i never join in project where Staff act like toxic kid and like Crestfall. /Kind regards Killerduki

First of all , what you try to claim right now is fabricated false info , the earlier post in this thread was in regard to "Feenix project" and not about this project , there was some examples given, but the whole point of that part of the conversation it was personally about Feenix which it was referred to by the person who i reply to. "Quoting for you, because you are beyond ignorant and blind eye person, pulling out all this hate against me like an angry kid". https://forum.elysium-project.org/topic/50284-how-to-save-anathema/ Period. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You sound even worse than biggest dictator in the world, when i said this project went disaster because of you , i meant that, you are not just toxic, but worse nightmare to have any project, this kind of behavior destroyed and wiped out this project when by mistake Shenna used against Alex. I can't imagine people reading you right now as former staff, what kind of moral grounded and disaster will bring this conversation toward project, everyone can see how toxic their former staff is, you know Crestfall today is shaping and crumbling because of toxic attitude like your personally by Asura. You judge of things based on "person you favor or hate" depend on your wish alike , not depend on what the whole conversation is out there, in before you try to call me ignorant , you completely ignored the part where the reply was referring toward. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How the hell i would know ? By watching the same trolls over and over again shitting and derailing posts days and days, months and months with their original and same user account used before and now. You tend to deny something even blind man would see. What kind of rants against the server i did ? Helping and assisting in the bugtracker, pointing out Guides for the Paladin community , helping with advice what the project has done wrong which lead toward this disastrous end today, by stating constructive criticism and point of view like any other person around , staying in topic discussion and tolerating every bit of unfair and untolerant former staff like you derailing and shitting on me. Before you even talk about me , let me remind you the part where you called community childlish and retarded in your former posts inside many other Topics openly as former staff, where you insult the community because in your eye they sound the very opposite of you. Biggest mistake this project made ever was having you being part of their team and even worse nightmare is allowing you as former staff using the same name talking bullshit about community in which this project rely to and work because of. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- As a former staff you are just showing how immature kid was behind the scene during the biggest nightmare when this project had, when it was falling with population. While i do give respect where it is toward , i do that publicly and i have already said many times publicly in my former posts, the respect was always given toward those who deserved . Unfortunately nor you got any respect , neither you will be even given any respect , because what you have done to this project before and right now is just reflecting toward the project again, acting like little angry kid rushing around as kamikaze derailing topics and talking shits about community and insulting the community. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- When you applied to do this job personally , nobody have forced you doing it , if you are irresponsible for doing it , not having will to do , none of my business , it was not me hanging you on a rope doing something, just shows how you want to grow an big ego of doing something every second person can do . While i do respect and i am aware of what they do , if it was not even fun or hard for them to do , why then they even do ? Did i forced you to do it ? Did anyone forced you to do it ? Did Blizzard forced you to do it ? Did Nostalrius forced you to do it? Nobody cares , if you want to do something then you do it by your own will , but when you accept the challenge of doing it , nobody's fault. You build up something which depend on community , you want to attract that community , you depend on that community , if you can't respect that community then nobody's fault about your personal problems about how hard your job is. While you try to put words in my mouth which you already did twice, i have never personally insulted any staff in this project, while the former reply was about Feenix project, it was written an analyze without insulting , neither i called anyone retarded kid , you are writing something out of tin air , but this complex issue is starving inside your tongue , so i suggest you to drink some vodka and get some fresh air, it will make your life much easier. I was never begging for any censorship , i just suggested it to save your ego , because if people read you as former staff, everyone will see what kind of immature and toxic person were behind this project all along. But yeah i'd love to see that Topic/Post again publicly , because i was wrong , everyone in fact should see what kind of kid were working all along behind the scene. You were calling others retarded kids and then you went full kamikaze on me, amazing , i honestly have/had so much fun reading your comments there,here and in other topics where you insult, demoralize and denigrate other people as former Staff in this Project. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lied for what ? You sound too much immature for even someone to talk with you. I feel sorry about you bro, this Game obviously is not for you, go get some fresh air, you need it. I wonder why this project Staff didn't ban you already for derailing Topics with offtopic discussion , harassing and insulting. Waiting for your further Wall of Text reply, it sound pretty and entertaining for everyone. /Kind regards Kilerduki

It's very nice to see how in a Topic about server you came out to talk about me instead and insulting me calling me "hypocrisy" , i remember in Nostalrius usually they were deleting offtopic discussions and they were sanctioning people for doing so. Now while your point is valid , if you see the other side of the coin , then let me remind you that my "rude,offensive and obnoxious" never went against the server rules , while 100 other trolls did it very good and never got sanctioned. Maybe you dislike the way i write, which i respect that,but as former staff talking something completely irrelevant is just what makes this project falling apart. Unfortunately you are one of the reasons why this project went disaster and it is very sad neither people nor you can see that. Talking about my behavior , i suggest you to find out your own behavior first. Lucky you , the old Topic was removed which gave clean sight for everyone to see it. Instead of saying thank you for suggesting something to get fixed which is a problem, you actually went blind eye with immaturity denying and calling me "You are more rude, offensive, and obnoxious". Being incompetent is what leads this to disaster , especially by someone who have been part of the Staff. /Kind regards Killerduki

Feenix tried this and end up disaster, i wouldn't recall pushing all Vanilla players into TBC ,many of them actually don't like to play TBC, the hype naysayers are like the opening hype players, so don't fall into this trap. TBC can be solution by opening a new server with giving a chance to vanilla players to migrate there. /Kind regards Killerduki