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*Since this is the first Item list on this forum it's technically not extended, it's just the regular one. Link if image isn't loading for you. So this is for all of you lazy people who don't have enough time to theory-craft on your own. In this spreadsheet there's a list of items of every item type listed by their "item score". The scores are based on the stats of the items, and you can see the stat weights currently being used here, or by just clicking the "Stat weights" tab in the spreadsheet. I will add more information to this post later, and it will probably be edited a lot in the future as well. Let's add to it and improve it together, priests unite! Comments and corrections are welcome and encouraged. Disclaimer: This is a guideline, to help you pick gear easier. It might not be optimal during some circumstances, including, but not limited to: Spec, race, set bonuses, incompetent raid leaders, encounters, bugs, that one guy who called me out in the comments.

I would recommend getting 2/2 In Improved mana burn. I'd probably go something more like this from my experience in Battlegrounds, (I'm primarily PvE player) It will give you a much bigger toolbox and harassment: http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#bxMus0bZbxtZVMGpcz Mental Strength is great for PvP though.

Same with boats and other similar "no-mount zones"!

Doesn't make much sense to have the default language set to Russian, especially having the options menu to change language back to the world-wide Internet standard English language (and Latin alphabet) in Cyrillic script. So even if you knew you could change language, it is extra hard to find! Good job on that. Liked the other forums better, liked the simplicity, but I guess this theme is easier on the eyes at night since it's darker.

This is a "Healing" build, not a DPS build (Think Support in MOBA games) Mages and warlocks love Power Infusion. Warlocks especially love Shadow Weaving. When you outgear content as a priest, you usually respec into Power Infusion to improve clear times because your healing output doesnt matter as much. One priest could spec into shadow weaving on top of Power Infusion to help improve raid DPS further, without a shadow priest taking up a DPS spot. Example of Build: Example of Improved Raid DPS over a traditional Shadow Priest: Shadow Priest: Support Priest: As you can see, it opens up a new DPS spot where the shadow priest were before, increasing raid DPS. (The Raid setup is just an example to demonstrate what I mean by clearing up a DPS spot, dont get hung up over classes, grouping etc.) Problems: Biggest problem is probably that you dont get the "Divine Fury" Talent, which gimps the casting time of your heals a lot, other than that I can't see any major problems for a guild wanting to clear content fast. What do you think? Could a guild run a Support Priest instead of a Shadow Priest? I think it could be viable. Or is this a non-issue and that one healing priest should just spec Shadow instead?

Here you go: Spirit of Aquementas Good to see some discussion here, going holy instead of Disc would benefit healing more and provide less support, I think they are both solid in different circumstances/guilds/content. This thread opened up my eyes to how wide the horizons are as a priest, and I hope other people get something out of it as well.

Using 2.12 When I use the built in click casting feature my incoming heals don't show up on unit frames. If I manually click the spell incoming heals show up on unit frames. Nobody else seems to have this problem so it must be a problem on my side, tried reinstalling the addon and deleting my settings in WTF folder, but it still uses my old settings, where can I find and purge them? Video visualising problem:

In raids I see incoming heals on everyone, on all frames, from all other healers EXCEPT my own heals. Did I disable something by mistake? How do I fix this? I'm using the latest version

Ever wondered what the REAL STORY begind Elysium was? Watch the efforts of or heroes here: This is actual footage from the events that took place, I only did some editing for clarity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TUBvNygMiE

We will see how it plays out tonight... Stay tuned!

To make it easier to find relevant threads I suggest you subdivide these forums. Example: As it is now, if you want to find for example a thread about specific macros you have to look through a bunch of UI/Addon threads since they outnumber macro threads by a lot. Another reason this is a good idea is to put all the unwanted "UI Thread", "My UI - what do you think?", "Rate the UI above you", "The Official UI tThread #23245" etc. in one place without getting in the way for actual AddOn help or link threads.

I made this on Nostalrius and forgot about it. The intro and outro is just there ironically because people always put really long intros and outros on their videos, but now it just looks bad. Levelling in Un'Goro (1:10) Oh yeah, it's a Swedish thing.

How big is the DPS increase over let's say the second best item? You say there is no better item, what kind of stats would an item have had to have to compare? Are we talking 10 times better, more? Less? As far as I know this item is still in-game on retail with the same effect, Why don't high level druids use it? I'm thinking at some point stats must've out-valued the effect? I'm just curious! Thanks!

This is something I worked on for my hunter alt a long time ago, I wanted to know if an item was an upgrade without having to look up how high up it was in different "BiS" lists and so on. So I just calculated the different stat weights based on the information available to me and made an item comparison tool, all you have to do is put in the stats of the 2 items you want to compare and the tool will output how much ranged attack power each item is worth. It also shows you which items are better in a raid environment and which items are better when soloing. There's one for Survival since they get more out of agility than normal hunters. It doesn't take Hit chance into account though. It's just a really simple tool to help you when gearing up in dungeons. I think you should be able to input numbers and try it out here: LINK This is an example, comparing Brutality Blade with Fang of the Faceless: As you can see, Fang of the Faceless is better for both specs while soling, but Brutality Blade is better for both specs when you are fully raid buffed, the difference is bigger in a raid environment if you are survival.

Hardest part while levelling is all the warlocks saying "you don't have to heal me I have life drain" so you just stand there at full mana and let them die because you have social anxiety and problems confronting people so you're too afraid of healing them. Then you have to spend all that mana resurrecting them anyway. Once you hit level 60 the opposite happens, all the warlocks want you to heal them but your gear is crap so you have to focus on the tank, which means the warlock will life tap to death and die and you have to spend all that mana resurrecting them anyway. TL;DR: Just have the warlocks soul stone themselves

My work here is done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6W2RVvE2tM /Kind Greetings Res

Not mine, but you might enjoy these images from development, early 2000's you might have seen them before: http://imgur.com/a/wO39T one of my favourites:

No 1080p? Unwatchable!

Not a very compelling argument, personally attacking someone without even rebutting what I said. Where do you draw the line, would you give a feral druid gear over a rogue because it's better for them? They do bring a crit boost and they combat res and buff people so they do pull their weight in some sense. Would you give a Ret paladin Gear over a fury warrior because it's best in slot for them? They might do bad DPS but they do put Blessings up on everyone, and he farmed his Nightfall all on his own! I know, that seems a bit ridiculous, but the shadow priest mainly fills a support role. in my other thread I suggested a way to even eliminate them from raids by having a healer keep up shadow weaving. Like I said, you usually allocate gear to the place which brings you from point A to B faster. When you reach point B then you would probably want to look over things and see how you can go through content faster without wasting peoples time. From this perspective, giving an item to a Warlock would probably be more beneficial, I'm not saying "Hurrrr-durrrr shadow priests shouldn't get gear because they are support class, the trial warlock should get all items over them" I like shadow priests and have nothing against them, I'm just trying to be realistic here, and the whole point of having forums is to promote discussion.

(the optical drive and the broadband internet connections aren't required for obvious reasons) Since you have over 1GB of ram and 64MB graphics memory should be over the min requirements for vanilla. And the CPU should be more than enough. That doesn't look like a too uncommon setup for old wow. But I'm no expert on old hardware so I might be wrong. Why don't you just try it?

If you go in expecting that a guild will give you some of the items Undertanker listed over a warlock you're going to be disappointed. Getting from point A to B is usually the highest priority in guilds. Giving an item to a warlock over a shadow priest will usually gets your guild to point B faster. You will occasionally be thrown a bone, but you're at the bottom of the food chain, no hard feelings but it's the truth.

Like I said in the OP, don't get hung up on the groups and classes, the only point I was trying to make by showing the raid set-up is that you "merge" a shadow priest and a healing priest into one raid spot instead of taking up two. Which makes room for another DPS. You'd definitely want a priest in the warlock group no matter if it's a shadow or healing priest, but that wasn't the point I was trying to get across. --- And the other comments about it being a spec that is just bad at two things instead of being meh at DPSing or good at healing, this is not meant as an entry-level spec, it's for farming old content which you severely outgear - which makes up for not picking optimal healing talents while still being able to preform your duty as a healer while being able to support DPS with buffs. The point is that this spot would be taken up by a healer, if you can replace a healer with a dps, then that healer wasn't needed in the first place. That being said, I don't know how much worse/better it would be than having a plain old shadow priest. right now it's just purely theoretical, you guys might be right. I just thought that since shadow priests have mana problems from the start, they are not optimal for speed-running and grinding old content since you usually take way fewer breaks - if any. So they probably couldn't sustain the theoretical DPS/healing pointed out in this thread throughout chain-pulling, and half their "DPS" comes from the debuff they apply anyway.

Compared to a normal Power Infusion build you will have 15% more expensive heals and 0.5 longer casting times, 5% less crit chance with your heals, and no armor buff on crit heals from inspiration, (only one priest will have this build so that's not a big problem). The others things are negligible, but obviously not optimal. You become a gimped healer - no question about that, but you will probably still be able to preform as a normal healer in let's say Molten Core, Onyxia, ZG etc. when you have T2+ gear while making room for another DPS. About throwing bubbles around... I wouldn't do it. My thoughts behind this was actually it being a serious spec. PW:S only scales with 10% of spellpower. I was thinking you would fill the role of a normal healer during speedruns and genrally just plowing through farmed content (Yes - you would have considerably longer casting times for normal heals), just keeping shadow weaving up and throwing Power Infusion on DPS as added responsibilities.

There's the problem, he's a rogue. it's a joke about warriors.