VladAtheris

Just curious what the reasons are. Is it a question of logistics, manpower or design? Do you wish you could open them simultaneously and simply lack the resources or do you purposefully release them a few weeks apart for other reasons? I don't think anyone has actually said why. Or maybe I'm just new to the website and haven't found the explanations yet. Personally I'd love just one server with 30k+ people but I think that is impossible.

This should be very clear to everyone. They didn't cheat but the MC instance is not perfectly blizzlike. They use the mangos core, right? They call it the elysium core but it's basically just an adaptation of the mangos one. Plus, they switched back to their original scripts after the whole nost drama if I understand it correctly. Bottom line is this. It can't be blizzlike, it never will be. There is another team building a new core from scratch. It will be interesting to see how their server turns out but for now this is what we got and it's pretty good for being free.

Crestfall are creating a sever that will be PTE ("Progress Through Expansions"). It will start with Vanilla and move to TBC after about 2 years and so forth. My question is this. How many people do you think will leave and how will that affect the server populations? While old Nost folks do not wish to start on fresh they might feel different about a PTE server. And all these people that are hyped for fresh give off the impression that they are very fickle. Elysium fresh will drop on January and Crestfall is presumed to go live somewhere in March. That is way before MC opens and probably before quite a few of the fresh guys even hit level 60. That's why the bitterness and division that's been festering here on Elysium will drive a lot of the people away, in my opinion.

If anyone wants to join me on my quest to hit some levels, maybe get to 10 today, then feel free to tag along. I'm not gonna do any crazy 24 hour nonsense. I'm just looking to find some skilled mofos that I'll be able to quest with for a while. I'm gonna play a warrior so if we manage to get to level 15 by some miracle maybe we'll do some dungeon runs. This is my stream https://www.twitch.tv/hrmvlad

Met a few nice people yesterday that helped a lot. Back live now, hoping to meet some more.

Yes. That is correct. Although if I recall correctly when Nost was released the PvE opened about 2 hours late and the PvP about 5 hours late. So I would be surprised if the actual release time is going to be as advertised. But who knows.

I use voodoo magic. I chopped a chickens head off and hung it over my modem to make the connection super fast. Works every time.

...okay *backs away slowly*

Why would the login name matter? Nobody sees that in game anyway.

Doesn't ore always spawn immediately after it is mined, somewhere else on the map, because each zone needs to have at least 12 or something veins up at all times? Or did they add that in later expansions? Anyway, I think the best way is to look for mobs that drop expensive greys and farm those. Playing the AH is not good unless you have a lot of free time and farming mats profitably is impossible with the current population.

Selling greys usually give you enough gold to get the level 40 mount. There's no level range on mats. However I do find it annoying when max level people kill the mobs you need for your quest in order to loot from them or skin them. The turtles in Hinterlands are a good example where 60s might just run around killing them cuz they drop on average 15s/kill due to their greys selling for a lot. Especially since there aren't a lot of turtles to begin with.

Introduction Faction: Horde Server: Fresh Region: Europe Focus: PvE Raiding Times/week: 2 or 3 Guild Mindset We are looking to create a fun yet mature atmosphere in which people can enjoy the various aspects of Vanilla content. Although our goal is to clear Raid content, we are not in a hurry. We do not aim for any realm firsts. We are veterans of retail Vanilla who seek to relive those fun times. This is a game and it should be fun above all else. You won't find raid leaders berating you and yelling at you over mistakes in this guild. We don't want WoW to become a second job for you. Objectives - Short term First and foremost we will strive to assemble a well balanced group of different classes and specializations. There's no point going to battle with 40 rogues. We won't get far. After we have secured a solid roster we shall go about the business of leveling, making sure that we do not leave behind any slow leveling classes, such as priest for example. Objectives - Long Term We wish to build a community. More than anything we have enjoyed the social aspect of WoW in the past and that is what we wish to recapture. We believe that such bonds are forged in battle. And as soon as we are able and ready we shall lay siege to Molten Core. We are planning to raid at least two times a week and if people are willing we can push it to three times a week. The exact time is not yet set in stone. We are flexible but it is good to note that it will be somewhere around 19:00 - 23:00 CET. What type of people we are looking for The most important thing is to have an open, easy going attitude and a real desire to play the game. We do not require any previous end game experience since we are confident that under our leadership you will learn very quickly as long as you are willing. Since we are an English speaking guild you should know English at a intermediate level at least and have a working headset and preferably a microphone as well, although not mandatory. Thank you for your interest in our guild. Have a nice day.

As the fresh release draws near it is time to look closer at the guild's immediate goals and decide on how best to achieve them. These are our most immediate imperatives: -recruit a small but sturdy base of active members. -decide upon and consistently use voice communication software -establish groups in order to ease leveling and get out of the nightmare starter zones I believe these are attainable goals and necessary stepping stones towards a thriving guild. I shall see you all on launch day.

You only succeeded in pointing out that your friend's is bugged and yours is working correctly. His should be the one fixed and if they have time to get around to it they will fix it.

We should all pool together some cash and get Snide a hooker to deflower him before he loses his mind and kills his mom.

Don't buy gold seems like the obvious answer here, boys and girls. I don't really understand who these people are that buy gold anyway. After all, the demand must be huge is there is a business made out of the thing. Nobody would retaliate with heavy DDoS attacks if all they stood to lose was a few hundred bucks. A second solution would be for the server to sell gold in exchange for cash. Have a shop and sell gold. It's not like selling gold makes the game pay to win. Gold is mostly for mounts and respecs in Vanilla. It won't be like the guy buying gold is breaking the game and making it impossible for the non buyers to play. All it will do is fuck up the economy on the AH but that could be quite interesting actually. This way every guild will have to have their own designated farmers who focus on gathering stuff. There might be guild unions who decide to only trade among themselves and bypass the AH altogether. Imagine trading federations brokering deals and establishing monopolies on materials. Could be fun. Bottom line, gold selling is like drug dealing if you want the dealers out of business then make their stuff legal and sell it yourself.

To be honest I think a substantial segment of the population will move over, especially from Fresh, simply because the gripes that people have with Elysium will not go away by the time CF launches. Not to mention the fact that MC won't be open by that time on Fresh so people won't feel like they are doing the same thing all over again again. Also, the grass is always greener on the other side mentality seems to be strong around these parts.

You are right Outstanding, some people have short attention spans. They give into fads and always want to be on the 'most blizzlike' or 'best' server. They go to the fresh server now but in 3-4 months they will move on if they don't find everything to be peachy and to their liking. Fresh also drew a lot of people away from old Nost and if many decide to leave then the servers might start to slowly become less and less populated. It happened on the WotLK 1x Lordaeron server of warmane after they implemented the Lordaeron core on the 7x Icecrown server. They too started with 15k people and 10k queues but now it's Icecrown who is always capped. I don't exactly remember when they implemented the core but it was a long time after I hit level 80 and I was a slow leveler and yet many people abandoned their full epic toons and moved. I'm still playing on Lordaeron but just 2v2 arenas. You can't even find 3v3 games anymore and 5v5 is rarer than a unicorn. It's not as fun as it was when people were swarming the server even thought they still have a few thousand online. Plus, people are already complaining about things being different and not blizzlike. There is also the gold farmer problem which will probably not exist on CF as they have banned Chinese IPs if I understand correctly. It kinda annoys me that they are trying to compete with one another and just end up with diminished populations. Anyway, it is all speculation at this point. I was just curious what other people thought about the issue.

Well, surveys are usually conducted on small groups and are mostly accurate for the large population they represent. Obviously the data could be heavily skewed here if you assume that all the polite and friendly people in our community don't bother to log onto Discord or post on the forums. I hope that is the case. We will see.

I don't know. I would have agreed if you had asked me a month ago but having seen such rampant hate on these forums I am starting to wonder. I even made a post about a week ago trying to get people to be more civil towards each other but as you can see the very first response I got even on this thread was some dude flaming me. It's like anger is the default setting of this community. Have you seen the Discord chat or the general chat in game? I don't remember old Nost being this way.

I do believe that using trends and and information gathered from community interaction in order to predict the outcome of future events is a billion dollar business. I think they do it during elections, too. But maybe I'm wrong and I'm just a nerd belching out words. My question, though, still stands. How do you think this new server opening will affect the population? Slightly or severely?

I have a feeling they might actually release the fresh server on the 25th as some sort of Christmas present or surprise. I mean why delay the announcement of the release anyway? Why not just say it right after the Nost ones went online? Plus it's pretty late already and no news.

I dunno what the policy is on Elysium but on retail if you got scammed the GMs wouldn't help you. It wasn't against the rules to scam people on retail.

First off all people should stop responding to feedback with the attitude "it's free. go to retail if you don't like it." Even if the way it's phrased is aggressive or rude sometimes, feedback is the most valuable kind of information a provider of goods can get their hands on. You should not discourage people from offering it. Second, don't take up someone's place on Nost if you have no intention of playing on it once fresh comes out. And last don't assume that your demands are more valid than someone else's. You all have the same purchasing power. 0. Thinking you are more important than another guy makes you look ridiculous.

Sigh. If this is how you see the people you interact with online then I truly have no reason to talk to you anymore. It was not rage that I wished to express at the end of my last post. It was disappointment.