JCarrill0

Re-roll Horde if you want SoBlood.

So in TBC we get a taunt ability, but it's not until WotLK before we get an actual taunt like warriors. in Vanilla, it has been shown that holy Paladins can use Holy Shock as a Taunt, but is only viable in 5 mans.

Imagine that...

The short answer: yes The long answer: it depends on the player leading the party. Ret Paladins before 40 is extremely good DPS. It starts to even out and not really get much better after 40, but keep in mind your a support class. while you beat on mobs you can cleanse, spot heal, and take over if the healer drops, which makes you more viable then most may overlook. Sometimes when I was Ret, I got invited just because I could res, and the druid was the healer.

A Paladin is a fun class to play (like the rest can be) however being the support class that you need to be can be difficult to pull off. @killerduki WAS probally one who knew more about Paladin Vanilla tanking then most (even me), may the light rest his characters soul. Paladin are one fo the best healer in the game, even at Tier 3 they really start to shine. Priests, Druids, & Shamans are also great healers. they each have their respectable abilities, paladin are known for their fastest healing abilities. 11 into Holy for the AOE is always a must (in my book) as for the 20/31/0 Protection build, perhaps show me what you mean. http://realmplayers.com/Talents.aspx#s http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#s Any low level dungeon you can solo. Talent build wont matter. Now solo a dungeon as prot at the same level as you wont be possible. As for gear I always had 3 sets (and never had space for anything else) one for healing, one for tanking, one for DPS. these sets stayed in my bank however unless I needed them. The idea of ret is great for solo questing, so if you want to go ret enjoy it! its part of the leveling process! PvP is useful, on PvP servers. I used to be on Anathema, and trust me, they were useful! Now that I am on Darrowshire, the need is obselete. Engineering is a great profession to have as a paladin for both pvp or pve. I have done discussions over this many times before... so you'll have to find those yon the forums. The short version is My Paladin is my main. I am BS/ENG on my main, my Warrior (alt) has mining, while my druid (alt) is alch/Herb. Considering I have one of every class, I have pretty much every profession I level with my alts, but I gave ya a quick sum of how I run my Pal/War/Dru since you have them too. I hope I was able to break is down and help illuminate your questions. I will add I have written a tankadin gear guide, but I play mostly holy. if your looking to casually play and tank 5 mans, while healing for raids.... Try my 30/21/0 Talent Build

so this does it all in one macro? buffs all classes might/wisdom? (Depending on class) thats what I meant.

Nice, if I recall, there once was a macro that would bless based on class, can you do that too?

Not possible at that level. Level 17-19 elite mobs in that first areas... not to mention the first boss pulls 3 mins with it. maybe 2-3 man it ;)

I recommend Holy with the AoE

True, but I didn't elaborate because it wasn't an issue. That's what I thought. True, but you did mention using BoSalvation. how would we use that Blessing if not swiping it out?

judgement of wisdom was on all the mobs. im really confused here.... BoSalvation doesnt help help me get mana, but yes if I downrank my AoE I will save mana, but also do less damage and less threat, thus the need of salvation. (But again threat wasn't an issue) When I said I was OOM faster then they were... the issue was I was OOM by the time the fight ended...which by then I was just drinking for mana on the next pull. They didn't have to drink after every pull like I did. (Which sux, but that's ok. I had water) So again forgive me, but how will salvation help in this case? Not trying to be mean, I'm just trying to understand to comment is using salvation instead of light.. to help me save mana in the long run. it doesn't make sense.

http://db.vanillagaming.org/?talent#sVxuRgotVMtMcb

Swooping out Light for Blessing of Salvation, and just putting light in the Tankadin... threat wasn't an issue though...

Can you update the guide? remove the TBC stuff, add some talent builds (since you removed the old links). I know it says through naxx, but honestly it has nothing to do with naxx. It mention tier 3, that's it.

I had a few questions about post 60, and I have told them all the same answer.... There is lots of items for 2-Handers at 60, you just need to go with the one that suits you. IMO (In My Opinion) Pigs-Head is the best pre-raid 2-Hander.